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anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:11

@EasterIssland you know , similar things that were taken against Russia 2 years ago

Yeah, and a fat load of good that did.

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:08

ConnieCounter · 10/02/2024 23:03

I want them to stop killing tens of thousands of Palestinians. I'm surprised you don't.

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I don't want 10,000s Israelis killed by genocidal terrorists.

Scirocco · 10/02/2024 23:04

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:02

So you want Israel to stop fighting and be destroyed by Hamas operating in conjunction with all terrorist groups in the area ??

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I think there's probably a middle ground, somewhere between "do nothing" and "destroy Gaza and kill and injure thousands of people, to the extent that the ICJ is investigating whether it constitutes genocide".

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EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 23:03

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:00

Like what?

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Stop sending money to israel
stop sending weapons to Israel
stop any business with Israel companies
kick Israel out of any international competition

you know , similar things that were taken against Russia 2 years ago. Maybe this way Israel’s government realises that killing civilians is not the way of stopping a terrorist group

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ConnieCounter · 10/02/2024 23:03

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:02

So you want Israel to stop fighting and be destroyed by Hamas operating in conjunction with all terrorist groups in the area ??

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I want them to stop killing tens of thousands of Palestinians. I'm surprised you don't.

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:02

ConnieCounter · 10/02/2024 23:00

No I'd rather Israel would stop killing them.

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So you want Israel to stop fighting and be destroyed by Hamas operating in conjunction with all terrorist groups in the area ??

ConnieCounter · 10/02/2024 23:00

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:46

Arrant nonsense.

"Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making a region ethnically homogeneous."

Would you rather they were killed/injured?

No I'd rather Israel would stop killing them.

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:00

EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 22:57

True. Their opinions not much. They could do much more to change this situation.

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Like what?

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EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 22:57

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:53

That's not an answer,

How do their opinions have any bearing on the situation.

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True. Their opinions not much. They could do much more to change this situation.

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anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:53

EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 22:47

Probably more than you and I

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That's not an answer,

How do their opinions have any bearing on the situation.

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:52

@Kindatired Many if the posters on this thread have experience of disaster management and are well qualified to comment.

"@anotherfatyorkieWhat’s led you to take such a strong position on something you now say you don’t fully understand?"

You make a lot of assumptions.

"Israel is about to embark on something really terrible from which there will be no going back."
None of us know what Israel's plans are, so maybe we shouldn't speculate.

"It’s time for the UN Security Council to take some decisive step , at a minimum it’s time for serious economic sanctions to bring Israel to its senses."

They can't impose sanctions unless it's a matter of international peace and security. This is a localised conflict.

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EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 22:50

Im starting to read already comments about the pics that have been posted today. Let’s say it’s quite interesting. Shame the thread is 1k comments already… hopefully an independent organisation will soon verify them , so that aid continues being sent to Palestine

on the aid basis I’ve also read (Spanish news) how Israel is refusing to unload a ship with aid for Palestine and also making the unloading of some aid slow …

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EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 22:47

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:47

What they heck has Germany got to do with it?

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Probably more than you and I

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anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:47

Parkingt111 · 10/02/2024 22:09

Germany's foreign office is quite well aware that forced displacement contravenes International law which is why they probably didn't suggest that, unlike yourself.

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What they heck has Germany got to do with it?

Kindatired · 10/02/2024 22:46

Many if the posters on this thread have experience of disaster management and are well qualified to comment.
@anotherfatyorkie What’s led you to take such a strong position on something you now say you don’t fully understand?
Israel is about to embark on something really terrible from which there will be no going back.
It’s time for the UN Security Council to take some decisive step , at a minimum it’s time for serious economic sanctions to bring Israel to its senses.

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:46

Arrant nonsense.

"Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making a region ethnically homogeneous."

Would you rather they were killed/injured?

ConnieCounter · 10/02/2024 22:41

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:05

No but they can leave via the Rafah crossing.

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Congratulations. You support ethnic cleansing.

Parkingt111 · 10/02/2024 22:09

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:05

No but they can leave via the Rafah crossing.

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Germany's foreign office is quite well aware that forced displacement contravenes International law which is why they probably didn't suggest that, unlike yourself.

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:07

EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 22:06

They’re going to be busy moving injured, elderlies and thousands of people!

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I'm not party to the logistics of it or what space is available and neither are any of us on this board.

So why not all stop speculating and wait for developments, seeing we can't do anything about it anyway?

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EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 22:06

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:05

No but they can leave via the Rafah crossing.

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or as idf is going to move them … they could move them to Israel

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Kindatired · 10/02/2024 22:06

Well you appear to care.
Because in your heart you know Israel is doing something that is morally wrong.

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EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 22:06

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:05

That's why Netanyahu has told IDF to start evacuating civilians.

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They’re going to be busy moving injured, elderlies and thousands of people!

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anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:05

Parkingt111 · 10/02/2024 22:05

From the German Foreign Office

Already, the suffering in #Rafah is unfathomable. In an extremely confined space 1.3 million people are seeking shelter from the fighting. A large-scale IDF offensive in Rafah would be a humanitarian catastrophe in the making. The people of #Gaza cannot vanish into thin air

No but they can leave via the Rafah crossing.

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 22:05

Parkingt111 · 10/02/2024 22:03

Thanks for sharing. A strong much needed statement. Hoping that other countries follow this example. Germany's foreign minister has also expressed concern

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That's why Netanyahu has told IDF to start evacuating civilians.