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Parkingt111 · 11/02/2024 11:45

Sky news

anotherfatyorkie · 11/02/2024 11:44

Parkingt111 · 11/02/2024 11:38

It's being reported that Egypt have said they will suspend their peace treaty with Israel if the planned assault on Rafah goes ahead

Where is it reported?

And I would take this comment with a pinch of salt.🙄

Parkingt111 · 11/02/2024 11:38

It's being reported that Egypt have said they will suspend their peace treaty with Israel if the planned assault on Rafah goes ahead

Snowypeak · 11/02/2024 11:28

All this talk of “it’s war, get over it”. “They’re collateral”.

Each life is valuable, regardless of who thinks it’s acceptable to kill them because they’re in the way of someone else’s goals.

In medicine there is a saying: Other people’s pain is easy to bear.

Finallyloggedin · 11/02/2024 10:51

I think this quote I read best sums it up -

“The Israeli Government don’t want peace, they want Gaza.”

Sickening, once again, how little the atrocities being committed non-stop against a defenceless population are being reported on the news. Barely mentioned in today’s front pages.

I wonder how much the average Israeli knows of the horrors being perpetrated in their names.

PeasfullPerson · 11/02/2024 10:46

In times of peace the killing of one civilian by another is seen as a tragedy, and a crime.

In times of war the killing of tens of thousands of civilians by soldiers who have been given orders by their government, is seen by some, as just something that happens.

Is the suffering of each individual, and their families, in each scenario (broadly speaking) any different?

Do people shut themselves off from the suffering when it is tens of thousands because it would be too much to bear?

There will be over 11,000 stories like Hind’s. Could anyone contain within themselves the individual pain of 11,000 stories like that?

If people could truly comprehend the level of suffering, would they still support it?

BackandForthRoundandRound · 11/02/2024 08:50

anotherlevel · 11/02/2024 08:31

And do you think Israel would allow them to return?

It still amazes me that some are still trying to claim this. I know some is an attempt to derail but there must be some who genuinely believe this.... despite all the evidence which proves otherwise.

anotherlevel · 11/02/2024 08:31

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:29

As I understand it, Human Rights norms impose a duty on States to move people out of harm’s way through (temporary) evacuations as a measure to mitigate loss of life.

And do you think Israel would allow them to return?

BackandForthRoundandRound · 11/02/2024 07:35

Show of support to Palestine in New York

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
BackandForthRoundandRound · 11/02/2024 05:54

A congresswoman speaking out about the situation

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
BackandForthRoundandRound · 11/02/2024 05:52

What timing this happens to have... almost as though it is an attempt to take focus off their planned ethnic cleansing. (Considering the attempt last time around, also)

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
BackandForthRoundandRound · 11/02/2024 05:48

Bernie speaks out against military aid

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
BackandForthRoundandRound · 11/02/2024 05:36

All lives are equal. Shame some people cannot seem to realise that. But anyways, let's not let someone derail again.....

anotherfatyorkie · 11/02/2024 03:35

@Kindatired "Also it’s very unlikely that 10,000 Israelis would be killed by Hamas given that typically rockets kill fewer people in Israel than die in road traffic accidents"

Who says they would be killed by rockets?

If all the terrorist groups massing on the borders invaded at once, it might be a different story.

Kindatired · 10/02/2024 23:37

Also it’s very unlikely that 10,000 Israelis would be killed by Hamas given that typically rockets kill fewer people in Israel than die in road traffic accidents. The 7/10 atrocities which were committed by Hamas occurred against a background of multiple defence failures at all levels, from intelligence officials who knew about the plans for a year to the people who couldn’t find the spare key for the gun cupboard, to the frenzy of “friendly fire “ that killed an untold number of victims. These mistakes probably won’t be repeated.
Israel will always have some type of terrorist problem because of demographics and borders but the real existential threat is from the destabilising forces of its own right wing
So @anotherfatyorkie I reject your assertion that 10,000 Israelis will be killed by terrorists while I acknowledge that Israel will always have a terrorist problem

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:32

EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 23:30

Let’s see how many are killed in south Gaza. Those that die are you going to blame them for not moving once again? Victim blaming ?

Oh dear.

I'm sorry Easter Island, I really am.

EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 23:30

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:29

As I understand it, Human Rights norms impose a duty on States to move people out of harm’s way through (temporary) evacuations as a measure to mitigate loss of life.

Let’s see how many are killed in south Gaza. Those that die are you going to blame them for not moving once again? Victim blaming ?

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anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:29

As I understand it, Human Rights norms impose a duty on States to move people out of harm’s way through (temporary) evacuations as a measure to mitigate loss of life.

ConnieCounter · 10/02/2024 23:26

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:08

I don't want 10,000s Israelis killed by genocidal terrorists.

Well happily for you that isn't happening. But it is happening to Palestinians.

Kindatired · 10/02/2024 23:23

This conflict is rapidly escalating from local to a more widespread conflagration. It is no longer considered local. This is one of Blinken’s principal concerns at the moment.

Netanyahyu has made it clear that he intends to carry out a ground offensive in Southern Gaza and has given orders to the IDF to this effect. He must reasonably know that the consequences of sypuch action are either mass civilian casualties or forced transfer. Either consequence would be a war crime.

So time for the wider international community to call for economic sanctions and an appropriate response from the UN Security Council.

Dulra · 10/02/2024 23:19

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:08

I don't want 10,000s Israelis killed by genocidal terrorists.

So to stop that happening over 20,000 Palestinians have to be killed? There's no other way? That's a very warped justification for genocide. I don't see some lives as better than others so ensuring no more innocent civilians are killed, starved, maimed, displaced is priority.

EasterIssland · 10/02/2024 23:12

anotherfatyorkie · 10/02/2024 23:11

@EasterIssland you know , similar things that were taken against Russia 2 years ago

Yeah, and a fat load of good that did.

At least there are less civilian deaths than in Gaza …

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