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Dulra · 13/02/2024 08:33

@anotherfatyorkie wasn't aware of that, then they are just as hypocritical

anotherfatyorkie · 13/02/2024 08:25

Dulra · 13/02/2024 08:23

Absolutely, but to be fair Iran are not at the same time calling for an end to the violence, I think the poster was highlighting Biden's hypocrisy

"but to be fair Iran are not at the same time calling for an end to the violence, "

Actually they are - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/world/middleeast/iran-saudi-arabia-gaza-cease-fire.html

Dulra · 13/02/2024 08:23

anotherfatyorkie · 13/02/2024 08:20

If only Iran would stop smuggling armaments to Hamas....

Absolutely, but to be fair Iran are not at the same time calling for an end to the violence, I think the poster was highlighting Biden's hypocrisy

anotherfatyorkie · 13/02/2024 08:20

EasterIssland · 13/02/2024 07:30

If only he could stop sending weapons and airplanes to stop all this..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68281213

If only Iran would stop smuggling armaments to Hamas....

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Kindatired · 12/02/2024 19:08

Februaryfeels · 12/02/2024 15:15

No they shouldn't. You need a hearing before a ruling

The ruling of the court is retrospective -the mill of justice grinds slowly. I mean the Eu and UK should put economic sanctions in place against Israel on the basis that they are carrying out crimes against humanity and war crimes, completely separately to the ICJ.
Israel has operated and intends to operate in contravention to many articles of the Rome statute
For example

  • murder and wilful killing on a massive scale
-destruction of property that was not militarily necessary, -excessive incidental death injury or damage, -attacking personnel or objects involved in a humanitarian mission, -killing or wounding a person hors de combat, -attacking protected objects, -forced transfer,
  • treacherously killing or wounding by telling people a place is safe and then attacking which is considered a separate war crime to just killing
  • starvation
The world should not just look on. Stop buying their stuff! Its morally wrong to let Israel get away with this!

Rafah operation 'violates humanitarian law' - Martin
https://www.rte.ie/news/middle-east/2024/0212/1431864-rafah-gaza-martin/

Rafah operation 'violates humanitarian law' - Martin

Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheál Martin has said he is in no doubt that "the continued bombardment on Rafah will constitute a war crime" and "gravely violates international humanitarian law".

https://www.rte.ie/news/middle-east/2024/0212/1431864-rafah-gaza-martin/

Parkingt111 · 12/02/2024 16:32

@EasterIssland yes I have seen as the war has progressed he has become more and more openly critical
Can't say I disagree with what he's telling Biden.

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 16:02

Parkingt111 · 12/02/2024 15:59

It seems somebody finally has the guts to publicly call out Biden that it's time to act on his words of what he called 'over the top' response in Gaza
From the EU foreign policy chief:

"Well, if you believe that too many people are being killed, maybe you should provide less arms in order to prevent so many people being killed," Mr Borrell told reporters.
"If the international community believes that this is a slaughter, that too many people are being killed, maybe we have to think about the provision of arms," he added.

Borrell was at the beginning critised for not being critical with Israel but lately has been more and more clear about what Israel is doing
He’s also announced that they’re going to continue supporting urnwa, I believe the press release was with urnwa ceo

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ConnieCounter · 12/02/2024 15:59

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1756990510487449645?t=-kdzYnm5l9u2p2X6y72kLA&s=19

12300 "minors", otherwise known as children, have been killed by Israel. This is 43% of the total death toll.

It's absolutely barbaric.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1756990510487449645?s=19&t=-kdzYnm5l9u2p2X6y72kLA

Parkingt111 · 12/02/2024 15:59

It seems somebody finally has the guts to publicly call out Biden that it's time to act on his words of what he called 'over the top' response in Gaza
From the EU foreign policy chief:

"Well, if you believe that too many people are being killed, maybe you should provide less arms in order to prevent so many people being killed," Mr Borrell told reporters.
"If the international community believes that this is a slaughter, that too many people are being killed, maybe we have to think about the provision of arms," he added.

DomPom47 · 12/02/2024 15:47

anotherfatyorkie · 12/02/2024 15:30

Yes there are words;- Hamas, Hamas and Hamas.

Stating Hamas, Hamas, Hamas is naive.
What Hamas did was deplorable, disgusting, 100% wrong.
What the Israeli government is doing is also deplorable, disgusting and 100% wrong.
You have members of the government and right wing organisations within Israeli stating they want Gaza completely destroyed and with no Palestinians. There are some who are planing settlements in the north as soon as it’s feasible.
Israel ha broken many international laws and if you have any care for those hostages and any care for a peaceful resolution you would be thinking about both sides of the conflict, Israel is not innocent. There are many academics, civilians on the ground in and outside of Israel calling for a ceasefire and speaking honestly about the mistakes that Israel has made.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2019/01/chapter-3-israeli-settlements-and-international-law/
https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-acting-against-international-law-says-eu-diplomat-josep-borrell/
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/10/commission-inquiry-finds-israeli-occupation-unlawful-under-international-law
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/holocaust-survivors-and-their-descendants-accuse-israel-of-genocide-9687994.html
There needs to be a ceasefire.
Too many lives have been lost.

Chapter 3: Israeli Settlements and International Law

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2019/01/chapter-3-israeli-settlements-and-international-law/

Februaryfeels · 12/02/2024 15:47

Finallyloggedin · 12/02/2024 15:38

@anotherfatyorkie don’t speak to me. You are supportive of a genocide where children are literally being blown apart. You disgust me and I have no interest in anything you say. Don’t reply, I don’t want to hear it.

If you are bored go on twitter and watch all the videos of children being massacred. Then give yourself and all your little friends a pat on the back.

Are you the thread police.

Just do what others do and ignore the posters you don't like.

Finallyloggedin · 12/02/2024 15:38

@anotherfatyorkie don’t speak to me. You are supportive of a genocide where children are literally being blown apart. You disgust me and I have no interest in anything you say. Don’t reply, I don’t want to hear it.

If you are bored go on twitter and watch all the videos of children being massacred. Then give yourself and all your little friends a pat on the back.

anotherfatyorkie · 12/02/2024 15:30

Finallyloggedin · 12/02/2024 08:20

There are no words for the moral depravity of the people doing this and the people enabling it.

Yes there are words;- Hamas, Hamas and Hamas.

anotherfatyorkie · 12/02/2024 15:28

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 07:19

The bombing In Rafah has started … without of course allowing people going to a safer place, I hope politicians around tb world remove their support from Israel.

https://twitter.com/missfalsteenia/status/1756870743596429682

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How do you know they haven't been moved to a safe place?

That looks like a field hospital in Sinai. Like these ;-

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/egypt-building-field-hospital-near-gaza-border-as-israeli-strikes-continue-report/3038742#

There is a reporter there with PRESS on their back. I doubt they'd be in Rafah

I can't hear any shelling.

So not verified.

Egypt building field hospital near Gaza border as Israeli strikes continue: Report

Field hospital is about to be ready to receive injured Palestinians, Egyptian media reports - Anadolu Ajansı

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/egypt-building-field-hospital-near-gaza-border-as-israeli-strikes-continue-report/3038742#

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 15:19

anotherfatyorkie · 12/02/2024 15:12

Why?

No ruling has been made.

Never heard of "innocent until proven guilty"?

This sentence Only seems to apply to Israel …

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Februaryfeels · 12/02/2024 15:15

Kindatired · 12/02/2024 14:03

UK and EU should implement economic sanctions pending the ICJ ruling.

No they shouldn't. You need a hearing before a ruling

anotherfatyorkie · 12/02/2024 15:12

Kindatired · 12/02/2024 14:03

UK and EU should implement economic sanctions pending the ICJ ruling.

Why?

No ruling has been made.

Never heard of "innocent until proven guilty"?

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 14:04

Few days ago there was a poster in here (can’t remember who was it tbh) saying that pm had requested idf to move the people in rafah to the safe places before starting the air strikes because Israel minimises the death of civilians. happened with that? How many have been moved ? Where ?

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Kindatired · 12/02/2024 14:03

UK and EU should implement economic sanctions pending the ICJ ruling.

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Parkingt111 · 12/02/2024 12:42

From Australia's foreign minister in regards to a planned offensive in Rafah:

"Many of Israel's friends, including Australia, have expressed deep concerns about reports of an Israeli military operation in Rafah.
There is growing international consensus: Israel must listen to its friends and it must listen to the international community.
Many civilians who were displaced in Israeli operations in the north have moved south to this area, often under Israeli direction.
Israel now must exercise special care in relation to these civilians. Not doing so would have devastating consequences for those civilians and cause serious harm to Israel’s own interests.”

Parkingt111 · 12/02/2024 10:05

From sky news

Dutch court orders government to stop export of fighter jet parts to Israel
A Dutch appeals court has ordered the Netherlands to stop exporting F-35 fighter jet parts to Israel within seven days.
"It is undeniable that there is a clear risk the exported F-35 parts are used in serious violations of international humanitarian law," the court said.
Human rights organisations had brought a case arguing that the supply route could make the Netherlands complicit in possible war crimes.

Finallyloggedin · 12/02/2024 08:20

There are no words for the moral depravity of the people doing this and the people enabling it.

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