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10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 19/02/2024 08:13

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He's 100% right.

HeidiInTheBigCity · 18/02/2024 20:43

Parkingt111 · 18/02/2024 19:37

@anotherlevel I saw Ben Gvir was pushing for it but as much as I loathe Netanyahu, I didn't actually think he would agree to it. I'm waiting to see if it's confirmed as it's only been reported on Israeli media so far as i can see. I still have hope even if it is very slim that he won't bow down to Ben Gvirs ridiculous demands that are sure to inflame already increased tensions.
I read that the Shin Bet also warned Netanyahu against the move.

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Of course he will - from his point of view, this one is a total "win-win"!

Two thins that Bibi really needs are a) for his coalition partners not to walk out on him, and b) to remain "at war" for at least long enough for him to figure out some other way to stay in power (and, above all, out of prison)!

This seems like an excellent strategy to work towards both goals, so: again, why would he object?

Parkingt111 · 18/02/2024 19:37

@anotherlevel I saw Ben Gvir was pushing for it but as much as I loathe Netanyahu, I didn't actually think he would agree to it. I'm waiting to see if it's confirmed as it's only been reported on Israeli media so far as i can see. I still have hope even if it is very slim that he won't bow down to Ben Gvirs ridiculous demands that are sure to inflame already increased tensions.
I read that the Shin Bet also warned Netanyahu against the move.

Finallyloggedin · 18/02/2024 19:13

@anotherlevel yet another way for them to violate Palestinians’ lives. They both look so self satisfied too. Vile.

@EasterIssland good for Brazil and India

anotherlevel · 18/02/2024 18:09

I can't believe there are people who defend these Islamaphobes.

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
EasterIssland · 18/02/2024 17:28

Good for India

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
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EasterIssland · 18/02/2024 17:26

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EasterIssland · 18/02/2024 11:30

Gaza's starved children desperately trying to find any food in the garbage; a direct result of Israel's deliberate policy of using starvation as a weapon of war.

In northern Gaza, people even ran out of animal fodder to eat.

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1757735777004392765

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1757735777004392765

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ConnieCounter · 18/02/2024 09:16

Finallyloggedin · 18/02/2024 09:13

https://x.com/randomgoesbrrrr/status/1758910088251646298?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

As we all know, this didn’t start on October 7th. Owen Jones on Question Time 11 years ago.

Here we go. Some posters go absolutely bananas when Owen Jones is mentioned on here!

Finallyloggedin · 18/02/2024 09:13

https://x.com/randomgoesbrrrr/status/1758910088251646298?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

As we all know, this didn’t start on October 7th. Owen Jones on Question Time 11 years ago.

https://x.com/randomgoesbrrrr/status/1758910088251646298?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

anotherfatyorkie · 17/02/2024 21:22

DomPom47 · 17/02/2024 20:36

Let’s be honest, even if the source was direct from the Israeli government and they admitted it you would have an excuse like “What did they expect with what happened on October 7.”
With no real desire to truly understand what happened on October 6 and before.
All innocent lives are important equally and Hamas have a lot to answer for as to the Israeli regime and all who support it whether through voting or right wing parties or excusing the settlements or indoctrination in IDF training programmes or selling of arms etc.
Unless people are truly honest about the fault of both sides there will be no peace for Palestinians or Israelis.
Please get out of your echo chamber.

"Please get out of your echo chamber."

I could say the same to you.

DomPom47 · 17/02/2024 20:36

anotherfatyorkie · 17/02/2024 16:37

Yes I do, when it comes from Hamas.

Let’s be honest, even if the source was direct from the Israeli government and they admitted it you would have an excuse like “What did they expect with what happened on October 7.”
With no real desire to truly understand what happened on October 6 and before.
All innocent lives are important equally and Hamas have a lot to answer for as to the Israeli regime and all who support it whether through voting or right wing parties or excusing the settlements or indoctrination in IDF training programmes or selling of arms etc.
Unless people are truly honest about the fault of both sides there will be no peace for Palestinians or Israelis.
Please get out of your echo chamber.

ConnieCounter · 17/02/2024 19:50

anotherfatyorkie · 17/02/2024 16:37

Yes I do, when it comes from Hamas.

Good to know. I try not to engage with the more obvious genocide deniers on these threads.

anotherfatyorkie · 17/02/2024 16:37

ConnieCounter · 17/02/2024 10:38

There's plenty of photos of mass graves. Do you dispute the death toll in Gaza?

Yes I do, when it comes from Hamas.

ConnieCounter · 17/02/2024 10:38

anotherfatyorkie · 17/02/2024 08:07

@inkworks273 I never thought they would stoop so low as to hide a genocide but they seem to be doing their best to collectively make us look the other way.

Who is 'they'??

And as for 'hiding a genocide', that's ridiculous.

How can you 'hide a genocide'?

We are told that there are bodies piled up on the streets in Gaza, people being buried in mass graves and yet we have satellites that can pick out a cigarette packet on a pavement, so it seems rather implausible.

There's plenty of photos of mass graves. Do you dispute the death toll in Gaza?

Kindatired · 17/02/2024 10:33

Eye witness account from a 19yo now in Dublin“There was so much rubbish in the streets and we saw bodies too. Sometimes you couldn’t tell the difference between rubbish and bodies.”
Reliable journalistic sources are not querying the scale of the casualties nor are Israel’s firm ally , the US.

anotherfatyorkie · 17/02/2024 08:07

@inkworks273 I never thought they would stoop so low as to hide a genocide but they seem to be doing their best to collectively make us look the other way.

Who is 'they'??

And as for 'hiding a genocide', that's ridiculous.

How can you 'hide a genocide'?

We are told that there are bodies piled up on the streets in Gaza, people being buried in mass graves and yet we have satellites that can pick out a cigarette packet on a pavement, so it seems rather implausible.

Finallyloggedin · 17/02/2024 07:58

@Snowypeak yes, totally agree with you.

@inkworks273 yes, you are right, I once saw a quote something like “if the Tory government are the bank robbers, the msm are the getaway drivers”.

I never thought they would stoop so low as to hide a genocide but they seem to be doing their best to collectively make us look the other way. With a few honourable exceptions.

EasterIssland · 17/02/2024 07:54

Finallyloggedin · 17/02/2024 00:07

@ConnieCounter yes I totally agree, i don’t think I will ever forget it. Poor little girl.

@EasterIssland so heartbreaking that Egypt seem to be agreeing to the next part of their plan. It’s just all so terrible, isn’t it?

I still don’t think the full extent of what is going on is widely known in the UK. So many people I speak to don’t seem aware of just how horrific things are. The efforts to divert attention sadly seem to work.

I’m not sure whether it’s that Egypt agrees or whether they know Israel will do what they want and this might impact them so they’re trying to prepare for it

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inkworks273 · 17/02/2024 07:21

@Finallyloggedin Yes so many people don't know the full extent of what's going on. If people aren't on instagram, twitter, TikTok etc. and only get their news from the msm then they are only getting a sanitised version of events. Which is by design I suppose.

Finallyloggedin · 17/02/2024 00:07

@ConnieCounter yes I totally agree, i don’t think I will ever forget it. Poor little girl.

@EasterIssland so heartbreaking that Egypt seem to be agreeing to the next part of their plan. It’s just all so terrible, isn’t it?

I still don’t think the full extent of what is going on is widely known in the UK. So many people I speak to don’t seem aware of just how horrific things are. The efforts to divert attention sadly seem to work.

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ConnieCounter · 16/02/2024 15:58

The Palestinian ambassador to the UK, Husam Zomlot, said that eight of his relatives who were sheltering in the southern Gaza town of Rafah were killed in an Israeli strike. Zomlot also identified a girl in a distressing photo that has been widely shared online as his wife’s seven-year-old cousin Sidra Hassouna.

Middle East crisis live: Egypt ‘setting up contingency area’ in case of Rafah exodus (theguardian.com)

The picture of that child will haunt me. It's beyond words. Poor little girl.

Middle East crisis: Palestinian exodus into Egypt ‘must be avoided’, warns UN chief – as it happened

High commissioner for refugees says people crossing the border would be the ‘nail in the coffin’ for any peace process

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/feb/16/middle-east-crisis-live-israel-gaza-rafah-hamas-biden-cairo-ceasefire-talks-live-news#top-of-blog

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