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Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3

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Desertrose2023 · 17/01/2024 14:17

Hi all

This is the third installment of the thread to highlight, discuss and raise awareness of the crimes being committed by the Israeli army on a daily basis in Palestine.

for anyone interested in reviewing the first two threads on this topic they can be found here.

thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

thread 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4956890-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture-thread-2?page=1

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture | Mumsnet

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardme...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

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stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 21:58

@EasterIssland it's not that footage. The one in the times is what they showed on bbc news at six.

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 21:55

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 21:53

I was just wondering.
I know certain news sources in Israel (and all countries) use AI to add more info from old articles. @EasterIssland I agree.

I have had the footage sent to me of the rescue that's being shown in Israel. Hopefully it will be released on British media soon.

Its first page in times of Israel , I saw it when checking the date

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 21:53

I was just wondering.
I know certain news sources in Israel (and all countries) use AI to add more info from old articles. @EasterIssland I agree.

I have had the footage sent to me of the rescue that's being shown in Israel. Hopefully it will be released on British media soon.

anotherlevel · 12/02/2024 21:35

@EasterIssland then it should be 128 days still?

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 21:33

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 21:26

@anotherlevel time difference?

True tho it’s 1130 right now in Israel , isn’t it ?

there is a lot of misinformation about this on Twitter. I believe the article its not new , it was first about their families and has been reused to add that they’ve been rescued today.

anotherlevel · 12/02/2024 21:30

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 21:26

@anotherlevel time difference?

Ah I hadn't thought of that, thanks.

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 21:26

@anotherlevel time difference?

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 21:24

anotherlevel · 12/02/2024 21:21

That's so strange because on top it says 129 days and it's only been 128 days since 7/10/23

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Interesting. This is their current website

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anotherlevel · 12/02/2024 21:24

Here's the link to that article:

It says he was rescued today

www.timesofisrael.com/taken-captive-argentine-born-louis-har-and-fernando-marman/

anotherlevel · 12/02/2024 21:21

starfleet · 12/02/2024 21:17

https://twitter.com/JonnyFX1/status/1757132907947204871?t=4FiM2h4042ACyl74yuBFlQ&s=19

@EasterIssland this is only one link. Who knows what the truth is. It has been sorely lacking over the past 4 months.

That's so strange because on top it says 129 days and it's only been 128 days since 7/10/23

starfleet · 12/02/2024 21:17

https://twitter.com/JonnyFX1/status/1757132907947204871?t=4FiM2h4042ACyl74yuBFlQ&s=19

@EasterIssland this is only one link. Who knows what the truth is. It has been sorely lacking over the past 4 months.

https://twitter.com/JonnyFX1/status/1757132907947204871?s=19&t=4FiM2h4042ACyl74yuBFlQ

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 20:58

starfleet · 12/02/2024 20:50

@EasterIssland it was on a news agency x page. The haaretz link won't open. Of course I am not naive enough to think things cannot be changed on the internet but the screen shot is one I cropped as to not show the other hostages - only the rescued old fellas.

Oh sorry just seen it does mention 2nd February.

starfleet · 12/02/2024 20:50

@EasterIssland it was on a news agency x page. The haaretz link won't open. Of course I am not naive enough to think things cannot be changed on the internet but the screen shot is one I cropped as to not show the other hostages - only the rescued old fellas.

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 20:37

starfleet · 12/02/2024 20:26

Haaretz - which I believe is an israeli news source is stating that the 2 hostages were released on 2nd February? Something is not adding up.

Do you have a link to it? I’ve read mixed info about this and if haaretz is posting they might know something ..

starfleet · 12/02/2024 20:29

These are the 2 men that have been rescued.

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Auvergne63 · 12/02/2024 20:29

Ladyjanegreysketle · 12/02/2024 16:54

So if what you say is true about their motivation, why do you think they didn't flatten Gaza in 2 weeks, because they could have done?

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Because they knew they couldn't do it in full view of the world. They just doing it bit by bit, instead.

starfleet · 12/02/2024 20:26

Haaretz - which I believe is an israeli news source is stating that the 2 hostages were released on 2nd February? Something is not adding up.

FOJN · 12/02/2024 19:29

starfleet · 12/02/2024 15:31

@Livinginanotherworld I've seen a few reports saying the same.

But, also (from Reuters):-

Lt Col Richard Hecht said the operation was based on “precise intelligence” and that the site, on the second floor of a building, had been watched for “some time”.

If israel have precise intelligence why herd 1000's of Palestinians to Rafah and deem it a safe zone before carrying out airstrikes?

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Its cheaper and quicker to kill the civilians that way, fewer bombs needed when you concentrate people in a small area. You can also terrorise them more effectively before you kill them.

FOJN · 12/02/2024 19:27

Ladyjanegreysketle · 12/02/2024 16:43

@Livinginanotherworld 'Carpet-bombing' is a military term. It is not being used over Gaza as the area is too small.

Are you telling me that the people in Gaza are military strategists?

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I would say what's happened in Gaza meets the definition of carpet bombing. It's been more intensively bombed than Hamburg or Dresden and 60% of the bombs dropped are "dumb bombs".

No one needs a degree in military strategy to read a definition and the news.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing

Allourkids · 12/02/2024 19:01

Ah I see. No need to apologise - thanks for the info. I wasn’t questioning where they were rescued from, but the sources that said otherwise.

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 18:52

@Allourkids they showed where and when they were rescued from. Considering this thread was awash with conspiracy theories earlier (17.36) you asked for sources and then it came up on the bbc news.

I apologise. I thought you were interested. Perhaps I got the wrong poster.

Allourkids · 12/02/2024 18:44

I think I must be missing something - I’m not sure what you’re trying to tell me here about BBC verifying footage.

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 18:32

@Allourkids I literally just watched it on the news.

Allourkids · 12/02/2024 18:15

Is this regard the recovered hostages?
Any shareable links?