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I feel sick (serious trigger warning)

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Solaris89 · 29/12/2023 14:39

All things considered, this is the worst thing I’ve ever read (and I’ve studied a lot of history).

Seriously, if you are a survivor of SA it’s probably best you do not read this article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-harrowing-detail-nyt-shows-weaponization-of-rape-sexual-violence-during-oct-7/

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Trulywonderful · 29/12/2023 20:17

Thank you for the warning op, wish everyone did that

Personally I am still waiting for Owen Jones and others to apologise but I won't hold my breath. More likely we will continue to see apologisers and denial from all the same people.

I just don't get why they think admitting what happened in the pogrom somehow isn't acceptable to their own views or cause. People may actually take them more seriously if they showed empathy and compassion for all innocent victims of the conflict

stomachamaleon · 29/12/2023 19:44

There are just no words. It takes all the 'special reports' for Jewish women to be believed.
Perhaps we need to do a mark 2 in light of new information.
Why have critical voices stayed quiet?
I fear I know the answer.
Thanks for the thread @Solaris89

Mushroomsouptonight · 29/12/2023 18:45

etmoiandme · 29/12/2023 15:11

Not sure I can read the full thing but I did read the NYT piece yesterday and it's a truly awful but absolutely essential read. I'm not religious but have prayed in my own way for the family of Gal Abdush and also the families whose daughter/sister/mother suffered similarly. Just horrific what they must be going through.

@BigFrau Yes, that was an excellent and much-needed thread.

This one is longer and even harder to read. Appalling.

Mushroomsouptonight · 29/12/2023 18:45

I have read of some of these recounts but there are new ones in this longer report. Horrific mutilation of sexual organs, Horrific rapes. No words.

I understand the grief and anger after this happened.

etmoiandme · 29/12/2023 15:11

Not sure I can read the full thing but I did read the NYT piece yesterday and it's a truly awful but absolutely essential read. I'm not religious but have prayed in my own way for the family of Gal Abdush and also the families whose daughter/sister/mother suffered similarly. Just horrific what they must be going through.

@BigFrau Yes, that was an excellent and much-needed thread.

BigFrau · 29/12/2023 14:57

It's truly horrific. Beyond comprehension.

There's a good thread here on the same subject
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4945262-feminism-rape-and-israel-content-warning

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