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Shocked by the racist signs at marches

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Pigeotto · 14/11/2023 07:14

Maybe I’m just severely naive but I’m honestly just shocked at the levels of racism of some of the signs at these marches. It’s just caught me really, really off guard.

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Parkingt111 · 22/11/2023 12:57

@tobeinthemaldives do I believe Israel is committing a genocide? Yes I do and If you read the full threads you will see i have stated the reasons why I believe so and it's not a unique view that only I hold but many who are experts on the issue.
Do I think people like Itamir ben gvir who was convicted of supporting a terrorist group as a state sanctioned terrorist? Yes I do. I have yet to come across a single person on this thread who has anything good to say about him.

I see this is the second or third time you have referenced towards me but I don't understand why you can't just bring it up with me directly if you disagree. I can say my points and if you disagree you can say yours. Maybe we will see each others points or maybe we will have to agree to disagree

I don't see why it has to be done like this instead.
Myself and @Trulywonderful have had many discussions. Someone who I have learnt alot from. If she objected to my points i would be more than happy to listen to what she has to say even if I did disagree

Stomacharmeleon · 22/11/2023 12:56

@tobeinthemaldives I think we have all noticed... but I agree with @Sugaristheenemy

Sugaristheenemy · 22/11/2023 12:50

Did you know that the poster you are asking for forgiveness for has stated in another thread that Israel is committing a definite genocide and that "It seems many in the Israeli government are nothing more than state sanctioned terrorists"?

That poster is quite level headed on the whole. As I’m sure Truly is aware.

tobeinthemaldives · 22/11/2023 12:41

Trulywonderful · 20/11/2023 19:15

I know. It is just me pondering out loud. You will have to forgive me, I do that from time to time.

Did you know that the poster you are asking for forgiveness for has stated in another thread that Israel is committing a definite genocide and that "It seems many in the Israeli government are nothing more than state sanctioned terrorists"?

tobeinthemaldives · 22/11/2023 12:17

Jupitersstorm · 21/11/2023 19:50

Just seen this. " In the video he is seen calling pro-Palestinian protesters 'terrorists'.

How many Pro-Palestinian marchers were charged for shouting racist abuse like Israel is a terrorist state?

None.

2 tier policing and fear of dealing with the marchers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12776499/Three-men-charged-group-hurled-racist-abuse-pro-Palestinian-supporters-London-Waterloo-station-Armistice-Day.html

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"PC Andrew Dobson from the Metropolitan Police said: “Criminal damage and offensive comments of this nature are completely unacceptable and our team are doing all we can to identify those responsible. "
So the Met that comments like Israel is a terrorist state is offensive, so why aren't they arresting the thousands screaming this at marches?

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/war-memorial-in-south-london-vandalised-with-'israel-is-a-terrorist-state'-graffiti-ZtmSW70N4fXSZahIDNSXS

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/war-memorial-in-south-london-vandalised-with-'israel-is-a-terrorist-state'-graffiti-ZtmSW70N4fXSZahIDNSXS

Desertrose2023 · 22/11/2023 12:01

3and2ready · 22/11/2023 09:48

Imagine being a Muslim in America or any where really, at this moment in time.
trending on x at the moment.
https://x.com/omarsuleiman504/status/1727104280425816420?s=46&t=eApyQwxkdiGUWJcyEmIdVA

I saw that - he abused the vendor over a period of 2 weeks. The islamophobic hate speech that came out of his mouth is disgusting. Apparently police were notified multiple times but said they couldn’t do anything as it was “free speech”. If he had targeted another religion with his bile I very much doubt that would have been the response.

Fyi his name is Stuart Seldowitz. apparently he was a US State Department official for more than 30 years. A former deputy director of the Office of Israel and Palestinian affairs. In one video he actually says “if we killed 4000 Palestinian kids, it wasn’t enough”.

This the type of bias that Palestinians are up against.

🤮🤮🤮🤮

noblegiraffe · 22/11/2023 11:18

I don't understand why you would be threatened by the pictures of children?

Cognitive dissonance. If in your head you’ve got goodies on one side and then absolute bastards on the other, then the reminder that it’s a bit more complicated than that must be something uncomfortable to be confronted with.

But this can be resolved.

As the other side are ‘baddies’ then the photos of kidnapped children can’t be anything about concern for hostages held by a fucking awful set of terrorists, it must be baddie propaganda and therefore needs attacking and destroying.

The question is asked ‘why are they up in London when they are held in Gaza’ which just makes one wonder why the marches are in London when the conflict is in Gaza.

etmoiandme · 22/11/2023 10:43

@Stomacharmeleon Thing is, I don't think they're actually threatened by them. They're doing it specifically to make others feel threatened and intimidated.

Stomacharmeleon · 22/11/2023 10:39

Imagine needing to scroll the internet and lifting trash from another country when we are talking about racist signs in this? Events that happen here....

Stomacharmeleon · 22/11/2023 10:37

@etmoiandme the best thing we can all do is ignore the 'whataboutery' and not give people an audience.

I don't understand why you would be threatened by the pictures of children?

etmoiandme · 22/11/2023 09:54

@Trulywonderful Yes, and the thing is they've been around for ages just waiting for something like this to happen, enabling them to be more explicit and visible with their hatred because they believe they have an audience now that are more willing to listen to them. They are positively relishing in this war which they are using as a vehicle to mainstream their hatred, and certainly don't give two hoots about Palestinian lives, just their own white, middle class tribal politics.

It's really distressing because it's just a matter of time before their methods become more akin to the far right's (I suppose they are already) and then - what does that mean for us, as British Jews? Hide? Change names? I was just thinking this morning that I'm glad myself and kids have DH's Irish surname, and I'm not really a great believer in women taking their husband's name. It just makes things easier, sadly.

3and2ready · 22/11/2023 09:51

the evil in this Zionist’s eyes. Kicked up a storm on most social platforms overnight. Disgusting.

3and2ready · 22/11/2023 09:48

Imagine being a Muslim in America or any where really, at this moment in time.
trending on x at the moment.
https://x.com/omarsuleiman504/status/1727104280425816420?s=46&t=eApyQwxkdiGUWJcyEmIdVA

https://x.com/omarsuleiman504/status/1727104280425816420?s=46&t=eApyQwxkdiGUWJcyEmIdVA

Trulywonderful · 22/11/2023 09:26

Woman like at one ripping down the poster get to me and make my heart bleed far more than most doing it

She is obviously part of the very far left and their sick obsession with Jews. People may try and claim that Islamic extremists in this country are more of a threat and yes they are right in the physical sense (The far right are a threat too like that). However this woman has not had anywhere near the negative life experiences as most Islamic extremists. Which means she a white looks like middle classed woman in the UK is on a course of Jew hate despite no extreme reason or trauma of her own.

It is heartbreaking to me that their are people like this and horrifying that many many more can be apologists for this behaviour.

Trulywonderful · 22/11/2023 09:13

etmoiandme · 22/11/2023 09:05

I can already see some antisemites using 'pro-genocider' as a replacement for Zionist as code for (((you-know-who)))

Definitely that low they will do it

etmoiandme · 22/11/2023 09:05

I can already see some antisemites using 'pro-genocider' as a replacement for Zionist as code for (((you-know-who)))

noblegiraffe · 22/11/2023 08:58

Comment on that tweet about the woman ripping down hostage posters from someone with 14k followers.

”pro genocide atrocity propaganda”.

About photos of kidnapped children.

Utterly sick view.

EasternStandard · 22/11/2023 08:36

SomeCatFromJapan · 22/11/2023 08:36

That Naila person is a foul, blatant anti-Semite. And as for Sheffield Uni letting that go ahead... it's blatant terrorism imagery.
Yet there will be excuse after minimisation.

It’s really bad to see

I feel so much for students who feel threatened or don’t want it

Trulywonderful · 22/11/2023 08:36

Yuck

Seriously horrible to think we share a word with those to vile women. Twisting the stops to it is cleaning the street. However thick does anyone have to be to believe that. Do you see the state of those walls she is 'cleaning' the posters off.

Too try to be an apologist for that woman means every person that can think freely and logically nows you are a Jew hating fuckwit. So please let them share it on social media to defend because that totally outs them to everyone else that isn't hateful.

SomeCatFromJapan · 22/11/2023 08:36

That Naila person is a foul, blatant anti-Semite. And as for Sheffield Uni letting that go ahead... it's blatant terrorism imagery.
Yet there will be excuse after minimisation.

etmoiandme · 22/11/2023 08:31

A peaceful protest at Sheffield Uni. Imagine being a Jewish kid there.

https://twitter.com/DanJTPitt/status/1726690233427861762

https://twitter.com/DanJTPitt/status/1726690233427861762

etmoiandme · 22/11/2023 08:13

She's a little ball of hate that woman. Imagine being so angry at....hostages. And a London-based Jewish man.

This comment though illustrates why the far left in this country (and much of the Corbyn fan club) are such a bloody threat to Jews. It's pure antisemitic hatred and fuck all to do with Israel. Also if she'd taken the time to find out about who the guy is she'd have found out he's one of what that crowd call 'good Jews', the ones that are 'palatable' to them (until they step out of line). If they weren't so dangerous I'd be able to see them as the absolute joke they are. https://twitter.com/BrownNaila/status/1727118904957575657

https://twitter.com/BrownNaila/status/1727118904957575657