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Immune/NK issues - aka Pred Thread no.20!

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harrietm87 · 18/07/2017 11:42

Hi all, thought I'd get the ball rolling on the new thread.

Welcome all with immune/natural killer cell issues.

It's been a while since a new thread so thought it might be helpful if we all added our stats:

I'm harriet, age 30, TTC#1.
3 mcs (2 at 5 weeks, 1 mmc at 9 weeks).
Hypothyroid and high NK cells.
Cycle 2 on pred!

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Tee4me · 04/09/2017 15:18

'Tis done ladies, new thread in conception forum x

'Immune/NK issues - aka Pred Thread no.21'

See ya there 👋🏻

JustLa · 04/09/2017 14:38

Oh great! Not too long then 🤞🏻

I had a quick look and couldn't find out how to create 'immune/NK issues aka Pred thread no 21!' ... I don't know why I'm so useless with mumsnet lol

PoppyJ1 · 04/09/2017 11:44

Just, my next fertile window is late Sept/early Oct and DP and are on hols together so fingers crossed.

New thread starting soon I guess! Look out for it on the conception boards, everyone, if this one gets maxed out!

JustLa · 04/09/2017 11:18

Are we on our last page of this thread? Eeeek

JustLa · 04/09/2017 11:08

Poppy, thanks. I'm forcing myself to say things like that now! Lol
Any news on your ttc plans?

Oh wow Harriet, so this will be basically your 9 week scan on Weds! That's a great check point. I know you must be so nervous but the odds are in your favour. Only a couple of days to deal with the scanxiety!

Seeking, glad I'm not the only impatient one 💗💙

Sunny, you're so close now! Was NK cells your only problem previously?
How exciting, I hope you manage to hold on until your C-section 😊

Luna, glad you're feeling better! Sorry pred is affecting you so badly, hopefully your body will be more prepared for it next month 🤞🏻AF is behaving though which is great!

xx

LunaB · 04/09/2017 10:58

Almost there Sunny!!!

LunaB · 04/09/2017 10:17

Feeling SO much better today, the Pred depression/anxiety has lifted, my swollen throat is improving and headache is fading!

I can't believe how awful the steroids have made me feel the last 5 days!

Plus, AF just came to town a day early, so feel the rush of the new cycle, new hope and possible September 👶🏼

Yay!

sunnyday01 · 04/09/2017 10:16

a quick check in!

i had a scan on friday last week at 35+2, all seemed to be ok, and baby was head down and back to front - midwife scanning me said he's already to go - i said i hope not as I have 2 weeks left at work and a elective c-section!! I got a date too for my c-section which has made it feel a lot more real!

Annoyingly i'm not having much movement at the moment so i'm trying to keep an eye on that but i think it is in part to the baby facing inwards so it is less obvious!

Drttc- great news on the scan. I too will have 20 months between my two. I've not actually had too many comments about it. Some people have been 'you'll have your hands full' but most people have actually said at least i'll have the 'baby phase' over as quick as possible. One of my friends has the same age gap and she has just got to the point where they are out of nappies and don't need to take a buggy or anything out with them. She said that because they were used to getting disturbed sleep etc when no 2 arrived it didn't seem so bad. Like you say though, there is no ideal gap - you just get on with whatever the age gap is!

harrietm87 · 04/09/2017 07:41

Morning all, thanks for the anniversary wishes - we had a lovely day.

I agree with seeking on age gaps - they've all got pros and cons. I'll take what I can get! Short gaps are definitely the norm where I work as people tend to leave children quite late then try to squeeze them in quickly. No one would judge a 17 month gap!

just I'm 8+4 today, just a little behind drttc. My NHS scan was meant to be on weds and Mr S +intralipids on Friday, but he's had to move me to Weds now so I'm going to push NHS again to next week. My last scan was 6+4 and I'm starting to feel really really nervous about it. At least not long to wait.

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LunaB · 04/09/2017 06:35

😂👌 Tee

Tee4me · 03/09/2017 22:02

Any DH's need a little extra incentive this month? 😆 x

Immune/NK issues - aka Pred Thread no.20!
Seekingmiracles · 03/09/2017 21:53

Oh and yes just, hoping DrS will be able to tell at the 16 week scan 🤞🏻💙💕No patience here at all!!

Seekingmiracles · 03/09/2017 19:23

That was our exact reason for trying quite quickly... I knew it might take a while.. which it didn't but sods law and all that! I'm looking forward to having them grow up together.
Tee the age gap between DS and future baby will be perfect too, he'll be able to help you and feel involved. My sister has 9years between her two and the eldest was brilliant. Now her little sister irritates the hell out of her at times but all siblings do at some point! Every age gap has its pros and cons, we deal with what ever situation we dealt with and people really do need to save their opinion!

I'm going to go hell for leather on the diet and exercise after this one! Just in the process of looking at holidays for 6 months post baby so that'll be my motivation!

PoppyJ1 · 03/09/2017 18:54

Hi all, mammoth catch up again! 😂

Drttc, congrats on the scan! What a relief!

Luna, sorry about the BFN. See you on the September bus 👍

Just, lovely to see you talking about baby's arrival.

Welcome newbies!

Tee4me · 03/09/2017 18:41

The judgers are never happy! I agree with Luna, would make total sense to get cracking early having had a difficult journey.
I have the opposite problem, what with there being a big (unintentional) age gap. Worst comment I got was "don't you think (DS) would like a sibling??!" Fuck sake, kick me when I'm down. I know people don't mean it, but I guess for some if they haven't been through fertility struggles, it just doesn't occur to them that others might be.

LunaB · 03/09/2017 18:26

I would think your history meant the exact opposite Seeking - that you wanted to make sure she had a little brother or sister so got a move on; in case it was a tough journey - which it has been regardless of the small gap. Screw any haters and enjoy your cubs 🐶🐶

JustLa · 03/09/2017 18:21

People do make crappy comments Seeking. 'Your chance will come' pissed me off. Worst was probably from someone I won't mention in case DH ever decides to read this post, after MC number 2 she told me I 'had to just get on with it'. I was thinking, yeah cheers for that little gem.
Is it an NHS nuchal or Clinic one? And will you find out the sex of this one before birth? 💗💙
That's a lovely age gap! If I can, I'll go for about the same. Sis in law had a 10 month gap, that was too close for me but up to her. Try not to worry about what anyone else has to say (I know it's easier said than done) this is your battle/journey and your beautiful family and if they know your history and still decide they don't like it, they don't deserve your time anyway 🙌🏼

I've put on about 10lbs or more... too scared to look now :/ Oh well, back on the rabbit food and sweaty workouts after baby arrives ... plus a few months haha

Xx

Seekingmiracles · 03/09/2017 12:47

I've put in at least half a stone!! Maybe more! Shocking!!! Really hoping I become less of a glutinous pig once I'm off the pred! Well done at maintaining your running/walking!!
There'll be 17 month between them.. my best friend has 13 months between hers so she's at least set the bar!
I'm more worried that because they know my history they'll think I should cherish Tallulah and enjoy her for longer before thinking about number 2. But I've always said I'd like two close together so hey ho... no one else's business really!
Great response though! That'll def shut people up!

Drttc · 03/09/2017 09:05

Thank you ladies! So great to get the support on here. Not sure what I'd do during this time if it weren't for this community!

Seeking haha the reveal sounds so cute! And omg you're nuchal scan is soooo close! I feel like I wrote of few of your sentences myself. I was almost down to my wedding weight- then when I got that HORRIBLE stomach bug I actually went below my wedding weight lol. So far I've been scared to weight myself as it's been Carb Fest 2017 over here. But I've almost maintained my same level of running/walking so don't know... Dreading the midwife weigh in on Monday! Makes me feel like a naughty child. Also- the age gap thing! How many months apart would your little ones be? If all goes well ours would be 20 months apart. I reckon I've told a speech in my head about a 100 times that goes a bit like this 'Well you may think you know what you're talking about, but this is our 6th pregnancy and hopefully our 2nd child- So please keep your opinions about things you know nothing about to yourselves!' It's silly to worry about opinions when we've been through so much to get here. But alas, we are social creatures!

Seekingmiracles · 03/09/2017 08:23

Welcome on board choo, it is so isolating going through mcs, people mean well but have no idea what to say really. I'm very open about things and have tried really hard to explain things Timmy friends but they still make stupid comments.
My fave at the mo is, 'your body will know what to do next time'! FUCK OFF!!
Anyway, we all know what you're going through and are here to hold your hand and pep you up when you need it.

My nuchal scan is on Friday! Our wedding anniversary. I'll be glad when I can tell people properly as I'm sure they just think I'm getting fat again! I was practically down to my holy grail of weight.. my wedding weight!

Going to do a reveal with a big feather filled balloon for Tallulah to hold saying 'I'm going to be a big sister'.
I'm also slightly worried about what people will think about the relatively small age gap. Which I know is ridiculous....

JustLa · 03/09/2017 08:21

Harriet, glad you managed to get through the wedding. Any ideas on your next scan yet?
Yes unfortunately I now have acne on my chest, so bad that it makes people gasp when I pull my top down. I was trying unpasteurised apple cider vinegar but I smelled like a pickled onion! So I've just bought some mama mio face wash, will let you know how that goes. They have started creeping up on to my face now too which is annoying. Pretty sure Seeking said she had it and it went went she stopped pred?
Trying to ignore mine but it is pretty severe.
How many weeks are you now Harriet?

Xx

LunaB · 03/09/2017 07:49

Choo, just a thought, are on you taking any aspirin and vit D? These are two of the standard extras Dr S always prescribes all new patients, even before any tests have been done...

I had found this out about 2 months before i saw him for my 1st appointment (whilst trawling old mumsnet posts!), so I talked with my GP to check he ageeed talking the aspirin wasn't a problem (it wasn't at all) and I just put myself on 75mg aspirin and 50mg of vit D plus the regular pregnancy vits... it meant when I did finally get my appointment to see Dr S I was already taking the stuff he wanted me to take...

harrietm87 · 03/09/2017 07:47

Hi everyone- wow - lots of posts to catch up on!

drttc yay I'm so happy for you! Great to gain an extra couple of days too! Sorry you're not feeling great but it will be worth it. I've just got my booking in date - 11th sept - and then they will arrange my 12 week scan at that I think. Probably going to get Mr S's as well after just's great experience.

soph yes I did superovulation and it worked like a charm first go! I was a bit unusual though - I did it on only cycle 2 because I have long cycles and my DH was away for work a lot this summer, including recently to South America in a high risk Zika place, so Mr S suggested that we use superovulation to control when I ovulated to make sure it happened while he was in the country, and it worked! I ovulated 6-7 days early, on CD13 instead of CD20/21. I was on the lowest dose of letrozole and only one egg matured. Mr S did say if it didn't work he'd up my dose next time as he liked to see 2 eggs, but I don't think it really does increase the chance of twins - I guess often one doesn't fertilise. Apparently letrozole is much better than clomid - less nasty side effects and less chance of twins. I love that if I have this baby I will have seen it as an egg in my left ovary! (Well a follicle but wevs)

drttc I'm feeling fine. The odd bit of nausea but think the pred must be masking it as generally ok. I'm just really really tired and really hungry and fat! I've started to get lots of tiny spots on my chest too - did you have this just? Never had them before in my life! Luckily though my face isn't too bad and it doesn't seem to be hairy (yet?....)

I managed ok at the wedding yesterday. Actually had a couple of sips of prosecco in the toasts and held one for the rest of the day. No one said anything but who knows if they noticed.

Welcome choo - you've come to the right place.

Hope everyone else is ok. Thinking of you amy.

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LunaB · 03/09/2017 07:41

Thanks Seeking, you are inspiration for being patient...

I feel the same way Soph, as hard as I try to be understanding with my friends, most of them annoy me with their well meaning but stupid comments/advice... have stopped talking about it now...

Choo, welcome love - you sounds very sad but I really think this is the place to cheer you up and make you feel connected and hopeful once again... plus we do manage a few giggles 😊

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