Round up your ghosties and ghoulies and long legged beasties, the BESH are going to scare out the BFPs!

PS I have self-medicated with carrot cake :)

FSR self-stabbing with menopur went as follows chez drizz:
Stabbing time -30minutes:
take the stuff from the fridge (a powder, a liquid in a glass vial), apparently it can sting if it is really cold
Stabbing time -5 minutes:
Get needles out as well, sit down, breath easily: connect the "suck-up" needle to the what-you-call-it, the not-needly part of the injection thing
Stabbing time -3 minutes:
Remove the seal from the powder, leave the rubber cap, you stab through it. Break the glass vial (with a bit of kitchen towel or a handy breaky tool, or by hand, but I did get glass in my hands the first time I did it by myself, but the menopur went in). Suck up the liquid, stab the rubber cap of the powder vial and put the liquid in. Suck all the liquid up from the vial (with the dissolved menopur in it). Switch the needle to the stab-yourself-needle and faff to get the air out.
Stabbing time -30 secs:
Whip off your trousers (if you stab legs like me) or whip up your top. Optional cleaning of the injection side with a bit of alcohol.
Stabbing time:
Grab some fat with the left, stab it with the prepared injection, slowly and carefully inject, pull needle out, whip trousers back on, dispose of needles in sharps bin (or empty jam jar).

Easy! I found the bold bits the most stressful, but all in all, I cannot wait to play again...

It beggars belief, it really does. Three weeks?! She might as well have said it on the day it happened.

Three weeks after MC, and we told them about that and had told them about our troubles TTC when they announced their diffage nearly a year ago now (at about 6 weeks). In the hope of getting a little bit of breathing space and not be inundated with pregnancy-photos, updates etc.

I avoided her for the present-buying expedition, because frankly I find baby-shops frightening. Let alone in the current, much better, but still fairly fragile state... So poor SB had to deal by himself (I did home work and then cuddled the nephews on my side, who have an overfertile but sensitive mum).

[makes a voodoo doll of Drizzly's SIL] Stupid bint!

To all you previous self-stabbers, how did you get on with doing it yourself? I'm not sure I can train the cat to help me, so I'm going to have to get on with it myself.

Manly shoulder pats for Norf and Drizz

My BF's due date was on Wednesday, I texted her this morning to see how she was doing and she said "I had cramps last night, but they've gone now. Think I just ate too much!"

And the idiot at work can fuck off too. I am outraged on your behalf.

I can't even think of words, drizz. That is the most awful thing. How long after the MC was that? Did she know about it? Even if she was ignorant that's beyond horrible. I don't blame you for avoiding her in future.

Literally, she asked how I filled the time...

But the price for unfeeling comments goes to my hated SIL. Who after SB bought them an expensive present, which involved the baby warehouse, you'll remember, when I was excused for MC-reasons. Right, get the picture? SB went there, shopped with them, bought an expensive piece of baby stuff for them, drank a cup of tea and then... SiL asked outright whether we were jealous, because they have a baby and got it so easily. I am still in shock, and quite cross with her. How could she do that to my lovely SB who went out of his way and way out of his comfort zone to make their baby feel welcome?
So I won't have to go to any events where she will be present for the foreseeable future. And SB will not attend any small gatherings where avoidance of the stupid cow is impossible...

Oh, which reminds me... I was at a leaving do of new work yesterday, and someone actually asked me first whether I had pets (because last time I told her I had no kids) and then followed it up with the question of HOW DID I SPEND MY WEEKEND sans kids and pets... I was gob-smacked.

No need to muscle in .
I made carrot cake last night, have some and a huge cuppa, as it seems a little early for gin and I do need to go to a meeting and network for work later

My twelve week checkpoint was earlier this week. Ho hum. convulsive sob I too dread diff announcements

Yeah - I saw that announcement and thought she was mad to go public so early (and did think she must be getting porky really quickly to need to tell people now and evil cackle). And yeah, another week or two with scary announcements to survive. And then, it will be ok.

Btw apologies for my complete inability to spell.

thank you my luffly. I'll be 12+5 at my scan so most people due around our original due date will be declaring in the next week or so. Did you see the Rooneys have announced her diffment yet she's not due til May? Must have had an early scan?!

I'm not sure the menkulling ever goes away but it's good that your body is gearing up to lay eggs again. Well done on the exercising :)

Morning hags!

Right, I was going to reassure people about stabbing, but then lovely faif got me right between the eyes. Congrats on making 12-weeks and it should have been ours on Sunday, I managed to not think about that much but count since MC, a month tomorrow, but than one hit home Anyhow, you know you deserve it, and I am happy for you, I am just a bit scared about more diffage surrounding out due date to be announced in the next few weeks.

Re: menkulling, fish slaps anyone? Please? It is a month since MC, just over 3 weeks since checkins scan which showed no embryo but some junk still in place. But my body claimed egg laying activities on our lovely weekend away, nearly two weeks ago. I feel no different, except for waves of exhaustion. This could easily be because I have been sleeping worse and working lots. BUT I am menkulling like a mad thing... Next counselling sesh next week, she believes in fortnightly, which is fine by me, and especially fine by my wallet, norf

As for stabbing, I have done trigger-shots (3x) and menopur (1 course of 8 days). And in my opinion the actual stabbing is fine, do get a nurse to show you, and do it once in their presence, so you know you can do it. I found the mental thing easy. BUT I found the mixing of menopur mega-traumatic. I was completely convinced I did things wrong, didn't get the right amount in, etc, etc (speaking as a lab-trained person, this is concerning). But it was all fine, and produced the desired for result, two egglets in my case. I now thing the needle-menkul was partially a side effect of the menopur.

We have a snaky rasberry in the house. Well impressed.

Btw I have been missing you but have been exercising and entertaining non-diffed, non-sprogged friends, it was good. And I already can tell the difference in fatness in my smart tight dress. I have stuff I need to go to this afternoon, which once again I need to prep at home. So I'll be in an out.

How are school things, al?

Apologies for no effort at name checking

Congratulations on your flexible witch toad legs, bananasplit. And boo to hysterical lonely stewing.

Does anyone here have a chap who ever knows what to say? Even in the depths of despair I have to lead AMNH through his half of the conversation by the hand.

It will be all perfect for when you bring the LO home in six or so months then :)

My nephew calls my Dad Grampy :)
The fire was awful, words can't describe really. Fire damage was limited to the kitchen but smoke damage affected the whole bungalow. It took 6 months to do the repairs. Fortunately we were fully insured and the place is now better than it was before! It could have been much worse to be honest but we did lose a lot of stuff. We moved home in June and it feels like home again now. Just waiting for the dining table (long saga about quality control problems!) but we should get that by the end of the month! Finally feels like things are on the up! :)

Thanks for sharing Faith! So glad you got your BFP and hope all goes well for the scan, will be amazing to see your little bean wriggling around. Awful about your house though? Must have been horrendous. My nan & grampy's house burnt to the ground many years ago, I remember my dad (at work at the time on shifts) ringing in early hrs to say it had happened. Was all very quick and their three dogs didn't make it out :(

raspberry 'twas male factor infertility. He had a thing making the wrong hormones. One tablet each week corrects the problem. It took nearly a year of testing to get the diagnosis. That was also the week our house caught fire yes, 2011 was an eventful year! Anyway, 8 months after he started treatment, I lost some weight, we decided to stop TTC til we were on the IVF waiting list, lo and behold, BFP! I am 12 weeks tomorrow, scan is on Wednesday. I'm excited to see the bean and tell everyone that I haven't already told!

Other differs or PESH are dor, laurapalmer, cakey, blonder, queenie, camel and fertilityFTW. We have a thread in ante-natal clubs here, it's where the ESH when we get BFPs and actually believe them

Congratulations on the splits!

Oh no dont judge me - MATV not DH!!! Ggaaaarrrrgghhh like I say it's hard being new!

Ladies I bring exciting news. Well for me at least. Tonight - I managed to do the splits on BOTH sides. I should explain as I'm throwing this at you cold - I am a bit obessessed with stretching and getting splits, its taken me months and months to get it and tonight I got right down to the floor and could sit back. This was after an hr of exercise. Im now fully cooled down a few hrs later and tried again and managed it again. This makes me VERY happy! sad I know but I had to share

Hope everyone having to get stabby is getting on ok. I've been thinking about the whole IVF thing quite a bit today, think I'm starting to get a bit panicky about the appointment next week and DH doesn't really know what to say so I'm just quietly stewing in my own hysteria.

faith what was your story in the end? I remember you from days of old and hadn't realised you were diffed! congratulation . Who else is diffed around here too?

I'm sort of semi Menkulling. I've had very to slightly sore boobs for over a week now but it's going off slowly. Very tired, a bit over emotional and clingy and feeling a bit sicky. However, I did have some PMT type cramps this morning.

Ah, the menkul. I am about to enter my menkul phase - the 2ww. I think egg laying is imminent.

Yar. Apparently I am being fast tracked due to my extreme decreptitude and ancient powdered eggs. could have fooled me

Iz you on a waiting list rie?

Ah! Yes I am very familiar with the concept, if not the title