Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 13)

Hello all, glad 1st day went of tokyo it's a relief isn't it!

mumtum, tokyo WTF truly is WTF. I had my ERPC nearly 3 weeks ago and bled for one week after (I'd been waiting to miscarry naturally and so had bled for nearly 2 weeks before) I've had some dark brown blood and loads of cm over the last 2 weeks, my GP and EPU nurse said it was stil the last remnants of the m/c working their way out. I think as YRMOTB says you will know when AF shows up!
Cep posted this the other day, but it is a good description of WTF
www.pregnancyloss.info/waitingforaf.htm

cep glad symptoms have cleared up a bit

zam have an awesome time

mumtum it was me wondering if you should change your nickname to reflect your "secret MNer status" I shall stop making jokes on here now!!

chloe hope you are feeling ok, Clomid can have side effects like you're describing, can you head back to lovely GP?

lily how are the pills going?

hey cep glad your pains have eased a little never nice having them x Glad i dont seem to be the only one with low temps..Not sure i could deal with farenheit though i really would get confused ... ( doesnt take much at the best of times let alone whilst obsessing about TTc)

zam mean to say have a fantastic time.

afternoon all. you'll have to forgive me if i miss anything i had a bad memory at the best of times.

chloe thanks. if clomid does mess with hormones (i have no idea unfortunately) you've talked previously of your moods being all over the place on it so it's perfectly reasonable to assume it could make you depressed. Unfortunately counsellors do tend to have quite a waiting list through gp's, when i went to see one a few years back it took about 5-6 weeks before my first appointment.

aandr glad to hear from you fx for friday.

hadrian so good of you to come on and rub it in. and to go 1 step better i only rode an elephant . seriously so pleased your enjoying it.

tokyo brown means old blood. glad work wasn't too bad.

zam am very of all your trips. sorry about the bfn but you still have a couple of days don't you??

maybebaby fx you're not coming down with something.

oli so sorry you're ill, and how sweet of your dh.

mumtum your nickname is down to you. certainly doesn't bother me. and 36.4 is fine mine's lower than that, although i have mine in farenheit so that discuises it a bit.

blackkat am glad you were pleased by chloe calling you a lady, always when woman seem to take offence by being called a lady, i'd take offense at being called not a lady.

mouse hope you had a fantastic night.

if at first hope you're ok

yrmotb hi glad to see you. hope you're ok.

someone asked about becoming a friend on ff, if you go onto someones chart when they link on here top left says add to friends, press that and it'll invite the person.

hello to lili, lily, collie, wellie those in common room. much appologies if i've forgotten anyone else.

oh and my pains seem to have eased a bit, still a little bit but not as bad. still seem to be getting creamy, watery or eggwhite cm so goodness knows.

Thanks Youremindme, that does sound a bit promising then. Brown may suggest I'm coming to the end of the bleeding bit. Or NOT I suppose. Like mumtum said it isn't called WTF for nothing.

sorry i couldnt give you the detail you wanted tokyo

I hated the going back to work after too, It was right after the christmas break and the first question everyone asked was did you have a nice xmas,? was really very difficult pretendng we had when we hadnt. Noone at work knew so it was easier in some respects, but you sound like you have an undertsanding boss so if you need to leave early and catch up on some rest do just that , listen to your body i guess is what im trying to say ....

Thanks Mumtum. It's silly but I was hoping you'd come back and say it was the start of a cycle or something similar and not as I suspect just old blood or bruised cervix. I would happily be delusional .

Sorry to hear you're still waiting. It sucks and I've only managed 2 weeks so far, so well done you.

tokyo I finished bleeding 3 weeks after ERPC-proper bleeding, and then for the next 5 weeks would periodically get brown gunk here and there, for a day or two at a time. I thought it was AF and stuff, but when I really got my AF i knew about it. HTH.

xposts again... Thank you zam for the temp advice maybe im ok... not temp charted before so all new to me ! sorry your got BFN and the extra baggage now need but as said before there is still a chance....

tokyo only significance for me is that i had natural miscarriage and no interventions at all, so it may well not have been my AF simply the last bit of 'stuff' from the mc...... I mc on 29th Dec so im hoping it was my af but as there was no fresh blood in the 5 days i bled ( sorry tmi) i really think i am deluding myself.

Due to all the advice on waiting TTC till after at least 1 af following a MC my OH and I decided we would follow this but it now seems so long ago we threw caution to the wind last night...

I cant really comment knowledgably (is that a word?) on your bleeding as ive not had an erpc, some of the other ladies on here may have a better knowledge, all i can say is it is most defo called WTF for a very good reason guess we all just have to wait and see.

I did POAS (opk) yesterday but it was negative, wish id not started as now i will continue to do so until i get a positive one.... i sense this could be expensive if it goes on for longer than saturday when FF predicts i should OV....

Thanks to everyone for the GL wishes. First day back went quite well. A few awkward chats and one lady who teared up which made me a bit teary, but on the whole better than I expected.

My boss has been very nice and said I should just take things easy for the next week. I can go home if I feel it's getting too much. Not sure I'd do this but glad the options there.

Still not sleeping which is def taking it's toll on my energy and stress levels. Think I might have to chat to the dr after all.

Sorry this is very much a me me me one .

Just a quickie as am supposed to be packing for our monster road trip tomorrow (8hrs drive, overnight, then 3hrs off-road to desert camp!) Should be interesting with 2 boys under 5...

POAS today just in case - BFN of course so taking tampons & Nurofen into the Kalahari - what joy!

MumTum my pre-ov temps are usually 35.9-36.2 36.4 is quite normal. I don't get up to that level until after ov.

Back next week - have a great weekend everybody

Mumtum Can I ask what the significance is of WTF brown bleeding? I started bleeding this morning again. Very little fresh when I had a wee first thing followed by very little brown spread through the day.

Does this mean something in terms of the cycle? Should point out I'm only 2wks since ERPC but have only had one other instance of fresh bleeding.

Hi ladies,

Havent been on for a while as OH always lurking and would ask why im sneaking the laptop into the downstairs loo / understairs cupboard so have sneaked on quickly whilst at work ....

Feel like ive missed laod so have skim read to make sure i havent missed any tests etc and dont think i have but i will stand corrected if ive missed them...

hadrian sounds fab there wish i had come along in your suitcase ..

hils if you are green fingered then i think a shrub is a great idea

aandr loving the straightforward advice given and i totally agree

chloe maybebaby blackkat cep collie mouse hi to you all and sorry for no direct comments also Hi to anyone else i have missed

Now the me me me update...Still on my WTF cycle so have no idea but last night OH and i decided SFF no protection was on the agenda and so there we are... if i go by the dates i started the WTF brown bleeding im on day 9 according to FF so roll on Friday / sat when i will POAS to check Ov. Ive started taking temps but think im a very cold person, highest temp yet been 36.4 which was this morning... is this ok ???

Oh also cant remember who suggested maybe it was time to change my nickname... could have been this or another thread, i guess what i was getting at with it didnt make sense I simply meant i really really want a mumtum and hope that it happens....so Can i still keep my nickname ??? if it offends i will happily change it....

Thanks Chloe, I know it is probably just a bug, just hoping that it gets easier next month when I know where I stand with my body!

Sorry you are having a tough time of it yourself at the moment, it's horrible not being in control of your emotions

Good morning all,
Thailand wow hadrian
How you getting on yourself chloe? blackkat you are a lady even after silly me getting it all wrong!

I have the Flu its awful but DH gave me a lie in this morning fed and dressed DS and did all the housework before going to work himself! I am very impressed with have to make it up to him when i feel better

Morning everyone

Very jealous Hadrian the view out of my window doesn't quite compare!!

I am having a bit of a strange day today. I am hating all the uncertainty. I don't really know when AF is supposed to arrive, though I am fairly sure I ovulated 11 days ago (crampy pain on left side).

But the last 2 days, I have felt terrible, so tired I can barely stay awake, sicky and a headache. I know it's probably to do with the colds that everyone has at the moment, but there is always that little bit of you that hopes....

Someone slap me now please. But only a gentle one

Hadrian Thailand sounds lovely - what an amazing holiday so pleased AF has turned up - on this and this occasion only!

at Chloe for calling me a lady - that's made my day thanks Chloe xx

Ladies a quick hello from beautiful Thailand! Having an amazing holiday including learning how to cook Thai food and looking after elephants!

No hope of catching up on everything I've missed so will work it all out when I get back.

Think AF has finally arrived so if someone updates Wednesday's list could you move me out of the WTTC group and put me on CD1?

Hope everyone is OK and looking forward to catching up with you all soon

xxx

A&R thanks for your straightforward and sensible reminder - a really timely nudge to help us all remember it's just shitty bad luck. Thank you x
Everything crossed for you on Friday.

Chloe I'll poas on Friday if af doesn't arrive on Thursday - I only do expensive tests and don't want to waste them!! Cheapskate that I am!

There is no way to know why a mc occurred and given that 75% of fertilised eggs don't make it to implantation (pre-5 weeks) and overall 1 in 3 will have an mc (many picked up at 12 week scan and def 8+) then it is more a wonderful miracle when it does work than an error on our part when it does. For my 2 DDs I had a bad fall with one and a very high fever with the other and both made it through no problems. I think it is just shitty bad luck and the chance of post 4-5 week mc on the next pregnancy is just 10%. Too many stats but they are on our side in getting a healthy bean!

hills we planted a shrub this morning (during a brief rain respite!), I think it's a lovely idea, I like that it'll be there in years to come as a reminder , in a positive way, something good growing out of something bad. I can't remember the name of the shrub we chose but we took advice from the garden centre, it should flower around the due date.