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TTC or Pregnant with an under-active Thyroid.

729 replies

hippychick66 · 14/09/2010 11:06

Hi,

We were talking about this a lot on the charting thread and thought it would be good to start a separate thread.

There's about 3 of us at the moment but please do join us too if you are TTC with this added probem.

My results were 9.07 and then a few weeks later 5.5. I'm due another blood test in 5 weeks and hopefully my GP should be starting me on Thyroxin soon.

Quite worried cos the NHS guidelines say your numbers should be a lot lower when pregnant. still i haven't got that BFP yet so I guess I'll worry then.

ladygonegaga and Bessie26 - hurry up and join me here Grin.

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Besom · 15/09/2010 13:24

I've never tried accupuncture but have always fancied it. Will be interested to know how you get on.

I'm not very good with the not eating anything for an hour. I always want coffee as soon as I get up and caffiene works agains the thyroxine. Coffee not very good for ttc generally either, I should really try to cut down!

LankyLegs · 15/09/2010 13:05

Hi all,

Welcome mummysleepy goodness you antibodies did sound high. As bessie said its best to take the tablets first thing - you need them an hour before you eat anything really. I just keep them on the bedside and pop one when I wake up! You will feel tonnes better when they start to do there thing!

Hippy have a lovely time at the IOW.

Bessie good luck with your early scan - you must be very excited, and try not to worry too much (easier said than done)!

I too have a scan this afternoon to see if a cyst they found on one of my ovaries is still there - am hoping its not!

Also - anyone tried accupunture? I am also venturing into a session this evening for the first time - not sure it will help with the thyroid or not but plan to mention it.

Besom · 15/09/2010 12:40

I went to IOW last September hippychick. It was splendid, we had a lovely time there.

bessie26 · 15/09/2010 12:37

hi mummysleepy we must have posted at the same time last night. I took my second pill today so we can see how long it takes for them to have an effect!
STEP AWAY FROM THE TEST! - most people don't get a BFP until 17DPO! Do share your chart on the charting thread as others will be more than happy to help analyse it for you!

I was just doing some googling on why you are supposed to take it before breakfast & found this link which as well as explaining that you should take the pill on an empty stomach and not at the same time as calcium or iron tablets also says:

If you have hypothyroidism, you are entitled to free prescriptions. This is for all your medicines, whether related to the hypothyroidism or not. Ask at your GP surgery for a form to fill in (form FP92A) to claim this benefit.
Grin My GP didn't tell me this!

besom I am just over 9 weeks pg. Am having an "early" scan tomorrow. My temp is still high, have had no spotting & I feel nauseous most of the day, but am still terrified of what they will find (or not). But hey-ho, no point worrying about stuff you can do nothing about!

ladyggg Unfortunately I am 37, so I think that having another 5 is way beyond me (unless I start having multiples!)

hippy I agree these antibodies numbers seem crazy! Afraid I know nothing about them coz once I was told mine were ok i ignored them! Will try to remember to find out what my result was so we can know what a "good" number is.

Have a great time in IOW. I'm not sure I could survive a week without internet! Blush

mummysleepy · 15/09/2010 10:57

I have been TTC for 2 or 3 months, just charting this month. I already have to boys DS1 3 1/2 and DS2 has just turned 1. I had a MMC in between the boys but I don't know if that was anything to do with thyroid or not as I never had thyroid checked till last few months.

I took my first tablet this morning, I feel really excited at the idea of feeling a bit more normal again soon

I wasn't really going to be trying this month till we got thyroid bloods back but I noticed EWCM a couple of weeks ago so thought we would try. AF due on friday I think, I have been struggling to remember to take my temp the last few days Confused

I am feeling a little sick though and have been quite dizzy (I always get this esp when pregnant) so might do a test soon ( I know I should wait till friday though)

hippychick66 · 15/09/2010 09:31

bessie yes I agree. I heard a horrid statistic last night that in women over 45 there is a 50% chance of MC. arrgghhh I just turned 44. But then I thought well if I'm gonna listen to statistics then that means I've had my share already. If i get a third try I would be entitled to 1.5 babies so i should get a healthy baby next time -blimey that made a lot more sense in my head than it does in type Grin

These numbers seem so random. How can I have 9.07 and 88 for antibodies and mummysleep be 3.3 and 210. They don't seem to relate to each other at all. It's so confusing isn't it.

welcome mummysleep. really glad we started this thread now.

By the way, i am away for a week from Friday (in my beloved IOW),so if i go missing please don't think I don't care - I just might not get internet access and I don't have an I-phone Shock.

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LadyGoneGaga · 15/09/2010 07:46

Welcome Mummysleepy, you should notice a big difference. How long have you been ttc for? Do you have DC already?

Bessie I reckon you should be good for another 5 babies at least!

Besom · 15/09/2010 07:07

How far along are you bessie?

It's obviouusly a bit of a post code lottery then with the referrals.

I'm going at the end of November. Referral was made at the beginning of June so it does take quite a while.

Hi mummysleepy - the thyroxine made a big difference to me. I was still tired (because new mum) but it wasn't so bone tired.

bessie26 · 14/09/2010 22:05

besom am jealous you can get referred! After my 2nd MC I asked to be referred (i am 37, so wanted any problems identified ASAP) My GP said she would try to refer me (which is why I had all the blood tests done so she could fill the form in) But said that it was likely to be rejected as I had got "spontaneously" pg twice in a year, and they will only investigate after 3 MC.

I figure that if one in three pg ends in MC, then the laws of averages state that I will be fine for another 3 babies Grin

mummysleepy · 14/09/2010 21:54

hi
I am glad to have found this thread! I am borderline underactive thyroid but have been feeling terrible. My antibodies were strongly positive (210)
I went to my GP to ask about thyroxine because we are TTC #3. She hadn't heard about having TSH

hippychick66 · 14/09/2010 20:18

To be honest I didn't really think about tests etc. In both my MC's it seemed that i just wasn't getting a decent embryo. My first MMC was at 11.5 weeks and the feotus stopped at 8 weeks and with the second I MC'd at 7 weeks but at a scan at 6 weeks they could only see a sac. So I feel like it is almost definitely down to my age. Also i have a 10 and 7 year old and both those pregs went fine.

In my book about MC's it says that in women over 40 who MC - about 80% of the time it is down to chromosone problems.

Also, this whole thyroid thing has only recently cropped up for me - so I had not even considered it being a reason for the MC's.

It does seem that quite a few of us on here have had MC's but then unfortunately they are common occurrences.

When are you getting the tests done besom??

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Besom · 14/09/2010 16:09

hippychick - have you asked for a referral regarding the mcs? GP said it was usually only after 3 but given my age she was willing to refer.

hippychick66 · 14/09/2010 15:34

Yes, besom I've found it tough too. It's hard to keep going sometimes isn't it? Like you I'm the wrong side of 35 (I'm further the other side than you though Grin. So I do put the MC's down to that.

Looks like we are getting a nice little under-active thyroid gang together here.

Good idea of yours bessie to start a separate thread.

Lets hope we're all preggers (with a healthy embryo)very soon Smile

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Besom · 14/09/2010 15:32

Bessie - Congratulations btw!

Besom · 14/09/2010 15:27

Yes LankyLegs, I think I will. I'm due another test anyway.

LankyLegs · 14/09/2010 15:20

Congrats Bessie on your pregnancy. I do agree with LadyGG it normally takes a few weeks for them to fully kick in. Also - 0.25mcg does sound conservative - if your TSH is 10.8. I think you should ask the gynae too as from what I have read your thyroxine needs normally go up when you are pregnant.

Hippychick and besom sorry to hear about your mc's that must have been really tough.

Hippy sounds like you have an interesting thyroid - if it is kicking in in fits and starts - hope that doesn't effect you too much?

Besom you should ring the GP and get your latest blood results - it is actually really helpful knowing the numbers as there is quite a bit of info out there on the whole matter.

Besom · 14/09/2010 15:20

I'm 39 hippychick, so my age is probably the biggest risk factor for miscarriage.

How are you doing? I've found it very hard going this year.

Both times I've been tested very early on and they've been happy with the levels (although as I say, I've kind of just taken this at face value). I also spoke to an endocrinologist who said that as long as the thyroxin is adjusted as soon as you know you're pregnant and then you're regularly tested, there shouldn't be a problem 'in theory'.

However, I've an appointment with a specialist regarding the miscarriages in November, so will find out more then hopefully.

hippychick66 · 14/09/2010 15:07

besom can I ask what age you are please. Just wondering - cos you've had 2 MC's this year the same as me - just wondering now if there is a link??? Hmm

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LadyGoneGaga · 14/09/2010 14:17

The range of "normal" can make the difference between feeling great and functioning normally and feeling absolutely rubbish. GP's should treat your symptoms and not your numbers really. But sadly they seldom do.

Besom · 14/09/2010 14:09

Hi everyone, gosh, reading this thread makes me realise I'm very ignorant of my own condition. I've never asked what my levels are or anything. They just say 'your levels are fine' and I go 'OK thanks'.

I was diagnosed after the birth of dd. Currently on 125 mcg. I've unfortunately been pregnant and miscarried twice this year. They have increased the thyroxin dose by 25mcg as standard both times.

LadyGoneGaga · 14/09/2010 14:01

Hi Bessie. A month or so really. But tbh I think 25mcg might be a bit conservative and they will prob need to up it again. They started me on 50 initially I think and my TSH levels were much lower (6 or 7 from memory).

bessie26 · 14/09/2010 13:26

hi everyone! Thanks hippy for starting this up!

I had a range of blood tests done mc in May. TSH 6.61 & free T4 11.5. Antibodies all fine. GP told me we had to wait & re-test after 3 months... Just got results back yesterday, TSH now 10.8 & free T4 9.4 GP said that if I wasn't pg, she would want to do more tests before giving me anything, but as I am Grin I started on 0.25mcg this morning. Will repeat blood tests in 6 weeks time.

A question for you already on the pills, how long should it take before I notice the difference?

I'm off to gynecology on thursday for my first scan , so my GP told me to quiz them about dosage & ideal levels. I have just printed out this NHS Guidance to show them (just incase they don't know!) - it says when TTC or pg you should aim to be between 0.4 -> 2.0

hippychick66 · 14/09/2010 12:30

lady I'm at home and the TV is on. They keep talking about what ladygaga is wearing (an outfit made of meat) and I keep thinking they are talking about you Grin

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hippychick66 · 14/09/2010 12:15

Hi lankylegs - great name.

My GP said that my thyroid is obvoiusly kicking in in fits and starts. That's how the numbers were so different. She thinks my thyroid kicks in and takes over occasionally. her reason for not giving the meds is :- because the numbers are fluctuating so much she doesn't want to make me over-active.

I don't know all the technical terms for my results T3, T4 etc Confused. But she did say that cos the anti biodies were high(88 i think) that shows that I will defo need the meds eventually.

Bit of background for you lanky I do seem to ovulate every month despite the rumour that underactive thyroid effects your cycle. I have been pregnant twice this year, MMC in Feb and MC in June BUT I am 44 and I am 99% sure that those losses were down to my old eggs (don't want to panic you Grin).

I have 2 DC's already, so am very lucky on that front.

I hope Bessie joins us soon too. (she's currently pregnant and has also had a couple of MC's Sad)

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LadyGoneGaga · 14/09/2010 12:08

It's amazing how you spend/waste years attributing feeling tired/depressed/old to life when actually a tiny little pill makes you feel like you again really quickly.

Nice to chat too. Have this Biscuit

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