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Poem

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fairycupcakes · 23/10/2025 12:38

Am I crazy to think this would actually make a beautiful name? (Not pregnant but adore names and name-meanings and adding to my list for when that day finally comes)

ChatGPT says fewer than 5 babies were named it last year in the UK so I’m not the first to have the thought!

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caringcarer · 24/10/2025 14:38

I don't think your DC will thank you sadling her with that name.

MotherofAdults · 24/10/2025 14:34

Allthesnowallthetime · 23/10/2025 23:04

Siblings could be Ode and Sonnet

I know a grown up Sonnet! It's a lovely name

Words · 24/10/2025 14:31

Elegy
Dirge

timoteigirl · 24/10/2025 13:26

ComfortFoodCafe · 24/10/2025 13:03

You can’t call a child poem! Imagine if they got a high flying corporate job with that name. Would be hard to take them seriously.

That would say more about your biases than them.

fairycupcakes · 24/10/2025 13:25

SprayWhiteDung · 24/10/2025 13:23

I'm not so struck on the sound of Poem as a name, but the Greek word Poiema - which means largely the same kind of thing: poem, masterpiece etc. - would be a beautiful name imho. It's pronounced POY-eh-muh.

Also allows her to go by (what sounds like) Emma as a legitimate abbreviation, if ever she just wants a common-sounding name.

That’s lovely!

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SprayWhiteDung · 24/10/2025 13:23

I'm not so struck on the sound of Poem as a name, but the Greek word Poiema - which means largely the same kind of thing: poem, masterpiece etc. - would be a beautiful name imho. It's pronounced POY-eh-muh.

Also allows her to go by (what sounds like) Emma as a legitimate abbreviation, if ever she just wants a common-sounding name.

fairycupcakes · 24/10/2025 13:21

josuk · 24/10/2025 13:15

OP - the point I am making is less specifically about any name - and more about getting of of ‘me-focused’ mindset and trying to not think of the child as an extension of you.
I have teenagers and a young adult, and this became increasingly obvious as they were growing up.

You are romanticising the choice of a name for a yet-non-existent child. And many considerations need to go into the choice, not only if YOU’d have liked being called the name. Or what signalling you would like to send to the people around you. Which seems to be the only criteria you go by atm.

It is all nice and well to say - world should be this or that - and kids shouldn’t bully, for eg. As the pregnant woman on another thread was trying to argue for the ‘beautiful’ (to her) name Whyborn (nn Whybe). She kept saying - he won’t be bullied, and not see the name questioning his existence as anything but the beautiful name SHE sees it as.

Which is what you are doing - you like the name and think everybody around should see it as you do.
But they dont, as is obvious. But accepting that is hard. I get it.

Yes, I know. Everyone has different opinions and as I’ve said a few times now I find the for and against very interesting. I’m not taking anything personal, just sharing a name that I think is beautiful and seeing what people on here think as I enjoy talking about names 😊

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fairycupcakes · 24/10/2025 13:19

ComfortFoodCafe · 24/10/2025 13:03

You can’t call a child poem! Imagine if they got a high flying corporate job with that name. Would be hard to take them seriously.

and yet I work in a place very much like that and work with people of varying names and nobody is judged for their name - the world is much more modern now it seems (I myself have never known people to be judged by their name unless for whatever reason it is offensive?) in work people are judged on whether they can do the job or not.
In 20-30 years time workplaces will be even more varied in names - you only need to hear names in nurseries and schools to know that!

interesting debate this name has caused, I’m genuinely intrigued by all the comments. For and against! ☺️

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josuk · 24/10/2025 13:15

OP - the point I am making is less specifically about any name - and more about getting of of ‘me-focused’ mindset and trying to not think of the child as an extension of you.
I have teenagers and a young adult, and this became increasingly obvious as they were growing up.

You are romanticising the choice of a name for a yet-non-existent child. And many considerations need to go into the choice, not only if YOU’d have liked being called the name. Or what signalling you would like to send to the people around you. Which seems to be the only criteria you go by atm.

It is all nice and well to say - world should be this or that - and kids shouldn’t bully, for eg. As the pregnant woman on another thread was trying to argue for the ‘beautiful’ (to her) name Whyborn (nn Whybe). She kept saying - he won’t be bullied, and not see the name questioning his existence as anything but the beautiful name SHE sees it as.

Which is what you are doing - you like the name and think everybody around should see it as you do.
But they dont, as is obvious. But accepting that is hard. I get it.

fairycupcakes · 24/10/2025 13:10

CoucouCat · 24/10/2025 12:36

Imagine if “Poem” grows up to be a kick-ass rugby-player who hates music and books? The same applies for the other ludicrous “musical” names you mentioned. Who wants to be called Lyric? - that’s terrible.

What can you do with a name like Poem? I guess you could be an “Em” if you hated your name. You could be a Po-Po, that’s kind of cute. But it’s limiting.

I think you’re saddling her with a beautiful name that imposes far too many “girly girl” expectations.

Just call her something normal like Elizabeth. It is a beautiful name and she can be Liz, Eliza, Bettie, Lizzie, Beth, Liza.

They were just ones I could think of, not necessarily ones I’d use but ones I have heard.

Po or Em but I wouldn’t necessarily name a child based on nn options - my family don’t use nicknames generally so despite people shortening my name elsewhere my family just don’t. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t or that she/they wouldn’t want a shortening but nn should come organically.

True, we wouldn’t know if she’d be girly but again I don’t think that matters. I have a young niece with a very feminine name and she is not a girly girl and yet it still suits her perfectly because that is her name and she makes it her own!

I wouldn’t use Elizabeth, I’ve know far too many in years gone by. Yes, a great one for nn potential but again nn is not too important to me. It’s a pretty name but somewhat boring to me anyway.

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ComfortFoodCafe · 24/10/2025 13:03

You can’t call a child poem! Imagine if they got a high flying corporate job with that name. Would be hard to take them seriously.

fairycupcakes · 24/10/2025 12:59

josuk · 24/10/2025 12:24

This is such a typical thread about a ‘unique’ name:

OP: Isn’f [insert ‘unique’ name] beautiful

People: awful

OP: well - Banana, Whyborn, etc ARE awful, but my ‘Unique’ name will signal I am educated, quirky, and special. I’d love to have that name.

People: You are not your child. They will
be bullied for the name you chose, and they won’t care if people think YOU are cool. Naming the child is NOT about you.

OP: don’t care. I am going to use my child’s name to signal the world about myself…

As someone said - people do use names to signal heritage, and class (at least historically). Those are historical conventions - and were used with the best interest of the CHILD - to confer privilege, etc.

In other cultures - names were chosen to have meaning, or confer good luck. Again - thinking of the CHILD.

The ‘unique’ name trend in the west these days is purely PARENT focused - it’a all about …look at how smart, unique, quirky I am… It gives very little thought to the actual child and treats them as an accessory to the parent.

If you poll most of the kids with those unique names - i wonder what they’ll say.

Just as an idea - OP says she’d like to be called that name - why not just change hers?..🤔🤔

If you had seen earlier up in the post you would see that I’ve had my name over 3 decades now and my older brother chose my name so I find that special. I also think after all that time it’s pretty much part of my identity now and I love my name because it is who I am. Very much a timeless and classic name which suits me very well but that hasn’t stopped me pursuing creative things just the same way a “creative” name would not stop a child growing up to pursue less creative things. You don’t have to “live up” to a name imo. I also love a lot of other names both traditional and unusual and ones in between but it doesn’t mean I wish to change my own name 🙂

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fairycupcakes · 24/10/2025 12:48

StrikeForever · 24/10/2025 12:30

It’s awful. Why ask the question if you’re just going to dismiss the comments of anyone who disagrees with you?

Edited

You will see I haven’t dismissed anyone, happy and interested to see different perspectives 😊

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YYYDlilah · 24/10/2025 12:37

I agree, @josuk .

@ResusciAnnie , we gave names we like. What we liked was influenced by our lives. The names were quite 'neutral' and popular.
We may have liked names that were a bit out there, but we didn't pick them because we wanted names that we'd always like.

CoucouCat · 24/10/2025 12:36

Imagine if “Poem” grows up to be a kick-ass rugby-player who hates music and books? The same applies for the other ludicrous “musical” names you mentioned. Who wants to be called Lyric? - that’s terrible.

What can you do with a name like Poem? I guess you could be an “Em” if you hated your name. You could be a Po-Po, that’s kind of cute. But it’s limiting.

I think you’re saddling her with a beautiful name that imposes far too many “girly girl” expectations.

Just call her something normal like Elizabeth. It is a beautiful name and she can be Liz, Eliza, Bettie, Lizzie, Beth, Liza.

ResusciAnnie · 24/10/2025 12:33

josuk · 24/10/2025 12:24

This is such a typical thread about a ‘unique’ name:

OP: Isn’f [insert ‘unique’ name] beautiful

People: awful

OP: well - Banana, Whyborn, etc ARE awful, but my ‘Unique’ name will signal I am educated, quirky, and special. I’d love to have that name.

People: You are not your child. They will
be bullied for the name you chose, and they won’t care if people think YOU are cool. Naming the child is NOT about you.

OP: don’t care. I am going to use my child’s name to signal the world about myself…

As someone said - people do use names to signal heritage, and class (at least historically). Those are historical conventions - and were used with the best interest of the CHILD - to confer privilege, etc.

In other cultures - names were chosen to have meaning, or confer good luck. Again - thinking of the CHILD.

The ‘unique’ name trend in the west these days is purely PARENT focused - it’a all about …look at how smart, unique, quirky I am… It gives very little thought to the actual child and treats them as an accessory to the parent.

If you poll most of the kids with those unique names - i wonder what they’ll say.

Just as an idea - OP says she’d like to be called that name - why not just change hers?..🤔🤔

So you took yourself and your partner and all the influences you’ve had over your lives, all your cultural touchstones and social associations out of it when choosing your children’s names, and gave them totally neutral names?

If so, I’m sorry to say that a truly neutral name is impossible as everyone hearing the name will have their own set of associations and references and therefore there is no neutral. You’re overthinking it somewhat! Sometimes things can just be nice and fun and work out well. Usually kids take after their parents.

Xiaoxiong · 24/10/2025 12:32

If pronounced "po-em" it sounds more like the nickname "Em" for Emily and thus more proximate to a sound we associate with a name.

But the pronunciation is inconsistent, which may be annoying to you/her in future - see on this very site, a thread from 2008!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/culture_vultures/512098-how-do-you-pronounce-the-word-poem

StrikeForever · 24/10/2025 12:30

It’s awful. Why ask the question if you’re just going to dismiss the comments of anyone who disagrees with you?

josuk · 24/10/2025 12:24

This is such a typical thread about a ‘unique’ name:

OP: Isn’f [insert ‘unique’ name] beautiful

People: awful

OP: well - Banana, Whyborn, etc ARE awful, but my ‘Unique’ name will signal I am educated, quirky, and special. I’d love to have that name.

People: You are not your child. They will
be bullied for the name you chose, and they won’t care if people think YOU are cool. Naming the child is NOT about you.

OP: don’t care. I am going to use my child’s name to signal the world about myself…

As someone said - people do use names to signal heritage, and class (at least historically). Those are historical conventions - and were used with the best interest of the CHILD - to confer privilege, etc.

In other cultures - names were chosen to have meaning, or confer good luck. Again - thinking of the CHILD.

The ‘unique’ name trend in the west these days is purely PARENT focused - it’a all about …look at how smart, unique, quirky I am… It gives very little thought to the actual child and treats them as an accessory to the parent.

If you poll most of the kids with those unique names - i wonder what they’ll say.

Just as an idea - OP says she’d like to be called that name - why not just change hers?..🤔🤔

catin8oot5 · 24/10/2025 12:21

I think Poetry would be nice than Poem

giveyourselfapresent · 24/10/2025 12:20

Mm, not sure. I was a sensitive/daydreamy type of child who loved books and poetry, but i was also one who liked to blend in. I'd have hated to be called Poem and still would as an adult.

I've got one of the "classic" names in the William/Charlotte vein, and while I've never particularly liked it, I liked that it was normal and never had to be explained or commented on. The point of those type of names is that they can be anything, any class, job, personality type and won't raise a laugh or an eyebrow.

Doesn't mean we all have to pick one, of course. You can be a bit out there naming your child, it's just a bit more of a gamble as to whether they're going to be happy about it or not. It can also go the other way - one of my siblings has a normal, classic name but renamed himself something very unusual to go along with his lifestyle.

ResusciAnnie · 24/10/2025 12:18

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 24/10/2025 11:55

It's a name that says a lot about the parents, tbh. But what if the child grows up to be as poetic as a housebrick? To be resolutely stolid and down to earth without a creative bone in their body? Wouldn't it then begin to sound like a cruel joke?

(I know that a name just becomes a person's name and any attached meaning very soon gets lost - I know a very very clumsy Grace, but I think it should be taken into consideration by parents that their little darling might not live up to their bohemian ideals).

It does say a lot about the parents, names usually do. If you name your kid Poem, they’re unlikely to grow up with the creativity of a house brick, because the people who named the kid Poem are more likely to be a bit more adventurous and have more creative or alternative households. Just like people who want common/classic names for their kids are very likely to have ordinary/classic lives.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 24/10/2025 12:15

TiredofLDN · 24/10/2025 12:03

And what if sensible middle class William and Charlotte grow up to be anarchic, hut dwelling hippies in a remote Welsh woodland?

They’ll do what counterculture types have done for decades and change their names to Faery and Moon or whatever and crack on.

If Poem grows up to be an eminently practical electrical engineer who’d rather have six pints at the rugby, than go to an open mic night, they can change their name to Patrick or Penelope and have a lovely life.

Really it’s not that deep.

But, to be honest, that is the answer to every single question in the Baby Names thread. 'Call you child whatever you like and they can always change it.' Which isn't really the debate at hand.

HollowBones · 24/10/2025 12:10

I'm an english teacher and can just imagine the jibes 'we're going to study Poem today'

TiredofLDN · 24/10/2025 12:03

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 24/10/2025 11:55

It's a name that says a lot about the parents, tbh. But what if the child grows up to be as poetic as a housebrick? To be resolutely stolid and down to earth without a creative bone in their body? Wouldn't it then begin to sound like a cruel joke?

(I know that a name just becomes a person's name and any attached meaning very soon gets lost - I know a very very clumsy Grace, but I think it should be taken into consideration by parents that their little darling might not live up to their bohemian ideals).

And what if sensible middle class William and Charlotte grow up to be anarchic, hut dwelling hippies in a remote Welsh woodland?

They’ll do what counterculture types have done for decades and change their names to Faery and Moon or whatever and crack on.

If Poem grows up to be an eminently practical electrical engineer who’d rather have six pints at the rugby, than go to an open mic night, they can change their name to Patrick or Penelope and have a lovely life.

Really it’s not that deep.

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