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Lelophants · 2023-11-10T22:56:24+00:00

I know it’s a boys name in Welsh but for a girl? Or perhaps spelt like Arwen LOTR? It has such a pretty sound.

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BitofaStramash · 11/11/2023 21:36

I'd totally assume Tolkien fan

Seeleyboo · 11/11/2023 21:33

KirstenBlest · 11/11/2023 12:22

@Seeleyboo , Arianwen is the usual spelling.

@SeethroughDress , the Welsh name sites are really bad. There are articles on here
200+ Welsh Baby Names for Girls and Boys | Mumsnet
200+ Top Irish Baby Names With Unique Meanings and Pronunciation | Mumsnet

It looks like the author has looked at some dodgy sites and cobbled something together using cut & paste.

Riley is an Irish girl's name
Riley is a surname and might be from O'Reilly (an anglicised version of the Irish surname ‘O’ Reilly’, itself an anglicisation of O’Raghallaigh) or from the English Rye+Lea.
To say that Riley is an unisex name from a surname or place name meaning rye clearing is ok.
To say that Riley is an irish girl's name meaning rye clearing is not ok.

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Daisybuttercup12345 · 11/11/2023 21:02

Awful.

KirstenBlest · 11/11/2023 18:49

Anwyn and Bronwyn aren't male names, they're bad spellings of Anwen and Bronwen.

I know a welsh Arwen, but her name was used as a feminine form of Arwyn, and pronounced accordingly (ARR-wenn)

CaffiSaliMali · 11/11/2023 16:33

As others have said, Welsh names ending 'wyn' are masculine and names ending 'wen' are feminine.

Not all wyn or wen names have an opposite equivalent. E.g. Olwen is a Welsh girls name. There isn't a masculine name Olwyn - olwyn is simply the Welsh word for wheel.

I would go for Arwen. It's a LOTR name created by Tolkien but it's also a nice name and lots of people don't realise it isn't Welsh.

Anwen and Alwen are similar names which are Welsh.

WoolyMammoth55 · 11/11/2023 13:25

We have a 7 yo Arwen friend, lovely name, copied from LOTR. I agree with 'wen' over 'wyn' ending, as wyn is the masculine version.

Awen is pronounced the same ("Ah - wen") and is from the Celtic tradition: the witch goddess Ceridwen brewed a potion for a year in her cauldron, the potion was of Truth and Wisdon, Awen:
https://snowdonia.gov.wales/discover/history-and-heritage/mythology-and-folklore/ceridwen/

So that could be a good and legit alternative if you don't want to go too Liv Tyler!!

PhantomErik · 11/11/2023 13:14

Only Arwen I know is a 15 year old girl. I like the name.

Wyewaving · 11/11/2023 13:01

Arwyn is a very masculine name to me, I work with one and he’s a strapping 6’4” bloke.

As others have said, anything ending ‘wyn’ is masculine. I’d go Anwen personally.

heetud · 11/11/2023 12:54

@PurBal I know a welsh 'Sharn' her parents spelt it that way as they preferred it, her being from wales doesn't suddenly make that name welsh!

PurBal · 11/11/2023 12:50

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KirstenBlest · 11/11/2023 12:22

@Seeleyboo , Arianwen is the usual spelling.

@SeethroughDress , the Welsh name sites are really bad. There are articles on here
200+ Welsh Baby Names for Girls and Boys | Mumsnet
200+ Top Irish Baby Names With Unique Meanings and Pronunciation | Mumsnet

It looks like the author has looked at some dodgy sites and cobbled something together using cut & paste.

Riley is an Irish girl's name
Riley is a surname and might be from O'Reilly (an anglicised version of the Irish surname ‘O’ Reilly’, itself an anglicisation of O’Raghallaigh) or from the English Rye+Lea.
To say that Riley is an unisex name from a surname or place name meaning rye clearing is ok.
To say that Riley is an irish girl's name meaning rye clearing is not ok.

theduchessofspork · 11/11/2023 12:21

If you’re anywhere near Wales I’d go or Anwen or Olwen which are equally nice IMO and are actually Welsh girls names.

If you aren’t, then crack on - LOTR has made it accepted as a name - I think I would go with Arwen because wyn is masculine and wen feminine.

It’s very pretty

SeethroughDress · 11/11/2023 11:28

Slightly relived that there are dreadful baby name sites that muck up Welsh names too —Irish names get mangled on them, given completely incorrect etymologies/spellings etc. or they just present random words or placenames as ‘Irish names’.

I mean, ‘Riley’ (an anglicised version of the Irish surname ‘O’ Reilly’, itself an anglicisation of O’Raghallaigh) has been used as a boy’s name in the US for years, and then started being used for girls, too, and spread to the UK and Ireland. But that does not make Riley a ‘traditional Irish girls’ name’ that somehow means both ‘rye clearing’ and ‘courageous’.

Seeleyboo · 11/11/2023 11:15

I have an Ariannwenn.

KirstenBlest · 11/11/2023 11:12

This is an example of a duff baby name site:

It's a boy's name. It doesn't mean muse.
Arwyn isn't an alternate spelling of Arwen, and Arwen isn't Welsh.

KirstenBlest · 11/11/2023 11:04

@kaceylena , @dreamygirl25 , The -wyn suffix is masculine. Bronwen is the correct spelling.

@PurBal , I think you might have been looking at a duff baby name site. Anwyn is not a name and it's unfortunate. Alwin, usually spelt Alwyn, is not of Welsh origin and is a boy's name.
Anwen and Alwen are both Welsh names for girls.

Arwen is from Lord of the Rings. Arwyn is a Welsh boy's name

PurBal · 11/11/2023 07:02

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Cariadxx · 11/11/2023 06:58

No. It's a boys name. Don't do it.

Emelene · 11/11/2023 06:33

I know a toddler girl called Arwyn. It’s grown on me, I do think it’s pretty but the spelling would be an issue. Wasn’t aware of the male name connotation, it does sound feminine to me!

HafNedd123 · 11/11/2023 06:32

I am Welsh. Arwyn is a boys name. Arwen would be an option for a girl or Arianwen ,Anwen , Awen , Ariana , Arian -loads of options. X

Mwnci123 · 11/11/2023 06:28

No

Whataretheodds · 10/11/2023 23:35

In Welsh the 'wen' ending is female. The 'wyn'is male

I think Arianwen is really pretty.

deadlegs76 · 10/11/2023 23:32

What about Awen? Literal translation is "inspiration" or "muse".

Dartmoorcheffy · 10/11/2023 23:29

The only arwyn I knew was an absolute witch.

Em2ds1dd · 10/11/2023 23:17

I know an Arwen, beautiful girl with a beautiful name