AIBU to feel horrified at the number of Motability vehicles being provided?

Honestly, it already happens sometimes.

My son's cancer wasn't terminal but it was like some people were so desperate to find a reason for it to protect themselves from the fact it can obviously happen to any child that they didn't consider how asking about his diet, vaccinations etc would come across as blaming me for causing his cancer.

To be fair, it was never intentional but it still feels like shit no matter if the intent is there or not.

My daughter has cerebral pasly. I’m wondering how she could do things differently and not have her mobility issues be her “way of life”. Her motability car means she can go shopping or lunch or cinema with her friends. Something that, at 17, she has been very limited with until now. Can you imagine going through school without going out with your friends without your parents tagging along too?

Politicians should presumably do the same with pensioners. Enough is enough. If you didn’t save enough money during your life to pay for your old age, your kids can step in and look after you when you are old. Or maybe we should slim down the NHS. If you can’t afford healthcare, your family should step in and pay when you get cancer. I assume you’ll be happy to pay your own way when you are old and/or sick?

You talk about people “claiming” to be disabled as if it doesn’t take a mountain of paperwork, HCP corroboration, and PIP assessment to get even the lowest rate of support. An amount of money that often barely touches the sides of the additional costs.

Yep.

My husband has a significant physical disability, our daughter also has CP. When we lived in the UK I always had a newish Civic type R, we were once the topic of the barely literate blue badge police on the local facebook group. Apparently me buying a car and my husband having a blue badge was proof of also sorts of crazy theories, and it was a fact that we were gaming the system for parking in Tesco. Some poor sod pointed out that the car wasn’t, and has never been available on motability so these lovely people racially abused them. But then I do find the people who hate disabled are usually racist as well, so sadly not a surprise.

Those people are working to provide a service you benefit from.

I literally cannot believe people are saying someone working, whose husband is dying and for one time in their life for completely understandable resasons - is in the same boat as someone claiming thousands a month for three kids with adhd.” And never working.

@Simonjt I totally agree with you re disability bigots often being racist too.
My 6'5,," black husband often gets hassle whist we're looking for a parking space ( until he gets out of the car!) 😀
He often drives my car because my legs are playing up or I'm too fatigued to drive that day.
This is a man that literally carried me down the stairs last year and wiped my bum when my carers didn't turn up.
People are horrid. I would give every penny of my PIP to go back to work. And for the record you can refuse the money part if you're rich and keep the award that unlocks train assistance etc.

A terminal diagnosis is obviously very different which is why DLA/PIP have special rules which apply in those cases only.

If someone isn't required to work when looking after their disabled child/ren, it means they have been awarded higher rates DLA which would be unlikely for something mild, not to mention the fact that DLA is based on need, not diagnosis.

the woman has worked and paid tax all her life presumably. Noone objects to someone who has paid in getting something out. Noone minds someone who has a serious health condition getting something out help.
People do object to thousands being paid out to people swinging the lead -
doing minimal work and taking from the system without contributing. This makes it harder for people with genuine claims to get the help they need.

So if people are paid by the taxpayer they can spend their money on what they like if they provide a service taxpayers benefit from, but if people are paid by the taxpayer and don’t provide a service that taxpayers benefit from, we can tell them how to spend their money?

All those SAHMs with taxpayer-funded child benefit better watch out when we tell them they can’t spend that money on booze and fags. And all those pensioners on just the state pension should be worried too.

do you not think disabled people have those same worries? If i lose my job i lose the ability to pay for help with my kids and will quite literally be unable to leave the house. i’ll have a car but i won’t be able to use it as there will be no one to keep my boys safe. The cost of living for disabled people is much higher than for most able bodied people.
I understand people are exhausted and stressed and all those things…but that’s not the fault of disabled people.

To all the posters opining on the difficulties of life for the non-disabled, I completely understand you. I know life is challenging for most people and it must be galling and frustrating to see the life of unimaginable ease and luxury all us disabled people live without ever having to lift a finger.
However, I am not going to say that you are not entitled to your feelings, I am actually going to give you some practical advice which should enable you to join our exclusive club.
While acquiring a genetic disability or systemic disabling condition overnight may be hard to achieve, I have a disability, for which I receive higher rate PIP in both components, which I think could be readily recreated at home, all you'd need is a strong stomach, a steady hand and probably a stiff drink or two.
I was very fortunate to have been born without eyes but for those who did not win the natal lottery like I did, I reckon gouging your own eyeballs out at home would be pretty straightforward, definitely easier than amputating your own legs and in instant passport to the PIP high-life. A bit of DIY surgery and, hey presto, you'll be driving off in your very own brand new, top of the range, tax-payer funded car. Well, not driving away exactly since you now can no longer see, but you can't have everything and life-long blindness is a small price to pay to join the PIP VIPs!
Good luck with the home surgery everyone!

I think something is wrong too but also don’t care what Yanks think of our welfare spending.

Something needs to be done regardless of where your sympathies lie, we can't keep increasingly taxing a dwindling number of productive people to support an ever growing number of people reliant on the state. It's unsustainable.

Pensioners then. They make up the largest amount of people reliant on the state.

But you can work and claim PIP? Funny how people talk about something needs to be done but ignores things like the ridiculous waiting lists for treatment

You're right. We should axe the triple lock. Would save a fortune. Unlike axing Motability.

Back again to repeat yourself I see.

Well it's true.

Absolutely, so you support removing the triple lock, investing in support to get and keep people in work and retaining Motability, which keeps disabled people in work and brings profits to the motor industry. Obviously.

I also don’t care what Americans think about our welfare spending. It’s irrelevant to the discussion.

Motability, and other disability benefits allow disabled people to be productive, tax paying members of society, @OonaStubbs. Take away that support, and these people will become entirely reliant upon benefits to survive - and won’t pay any tax. Please explain how this is a financially astute move.

@OonaStubbs if pension age was lowed to 65 many would come off PIP and claim the pension they paid in for. It would also allow jobs for young people and respect for others.

Perhaps someone more technical than me can link the article? There is a gov campaign currently active. Please sign.

PIP does not stop at pension age.

Does it not become attendance allowance?