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AIBU to feel horrified at the number of Motability vehicles being provided?

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DawnRaiderNight · 22/10/2026 19:36

Just read this in the Telegraph about what the Americans think of our welfare spending:

“It also shocks Americans to learn that almost one in every five new cars sold in Britain is provided through Motability, the taxpayer-backed car scheme. The equivalent in the United States would be every Chevy, GMC, Buick and Cadillac sold through welfare. Or every Ford”

One of my friend’s daughters, aged 27, who has never worked, has several children with various diagnoses and is a single parent recently received a top of the range car, got to choose the colour and was given a ‘big reveal’ at the garage when she collected it. She has now been given a new four bedroomed detached house, something my own hardworking children could never manage.

Something is very, very wrong in this country.

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OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 14:39

If people are paying for it, they have a right to know how their taxpayers money is being spent.

roaringdragon · 24/10/2026 14:38

LittleMi55Nobody · 24/10/2026 14:32

my daughter is autistic and gets the high rate mobility PIP so shes entittled to get a mobility car but she won't because she has morals..

What a strange post. Not having a motability vehicle doesn’t make someone morally superior. Having a motabilty vehicle doesn’t make someone morally inferior.

x2boys · 24/10/2026 14:37

LittleMi55Nobody · 24/10/2026 14:32

my daughter is autistic and gets the high rate mobility PIP so shes entittled to get a mobility car but she won't because she has morals..

I dont understand this?
If she gets HRM then she can either use that money for a car
Or just receive the payment whats having morals got to do with it?

LittleMi55Nobody · 24/10/2026 14:32

DawnRaiderNight · 22/10/2026 19:36

Just read this in the Telegraph about what the Americans think of our welfare spending:

“It also shocks Americans to learn that almost one in every five new cars sold in Britain is provided through Motability, the taxpayer-backed car scheme. The equivalent in the United States would be every Chevy, GMC, Buick and Cadillac sold through welfare. Or every Ford”

One of my friend’s daughters, aged 27, who has never worked, has several children with various diagnoses and is a single parent recently received a top of the range car, got to choose the colour and was given a ‘big reveal’ at the garage when she collected it. She has now been given a new four bedroomed detached house, something my own hardworking children could never manage.

Something is very, very wrong in this country.

my daughter is autistic and gets the high rate mobility PIP so shes entittled to get a mobility car but she won't because she has morals..

x2boys · 24/10/2026 14:32

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:40

I honestly think people would be shocked if they could see how many vehicles on the road were motability vehicles. I work in car insurance and we deal with claims all the time where both parties are in motability cars, sometimes even all three cars in a 3 car accident.

IMO we should go back to the old style light blue motability cars - or a modern equivalent of the same.

You want reintroduce invacars?
How would that work for my son?
He wont ever be able drive his own car.

Tekknonan · 24/10/2026 14:21

This post is goady bs from start to finsish. None of this happened, ot not in the way the OP says. And don't believe the Telegraph - it used to be a newspaper. Now I wouldn't use it to wrap my chips.

Read up on the requirements to get a Motability car. You pay for your car through your disability benefits and are only eligible if you get enhanced PIP (not easy), higher rate DLA, (not easy) Armed Forces Independence Payment, or War Pensioners’ Mobility Supplement. Do you know how difficult it is to get decent social housing?

Effectively, you are encouraging envy towards people with serious disabilities, and hostility towards them. What would you prefer? To be tetraplegic or to be able to use an ordinary vehicle? Many motability users need their cars to get to work. They pay tax on their earning and need people like you like most of us need a pain in the arse.

pointythings · 24/10/2026 13:57

StressedSupportWorker · 24/10/2026 12:56

Why waste time and money designing and manufacturing vehicles specifically to stigmatise disability? What is the purpose in it?

The stigma is the purpose. For people like Oona, disabled people and poor people don't deserve to have the same things other people do. They should never be able to enjoy themselves, and would be best locked away in institutions, eating gruel. Some people just hate and resent disabled people. It's very sad.

roaringdragon · 24/10/2026 13:53

TempestTost · 24/10/2026 13:03

The reason people feel this is unfair is that many people are unable to afford a car and it seriously makes their lives worse. Including with regard to going to work.

When benefits only help certain people in need, it's bound to cause resentment.

They wouldn’t want to be disabled enough to be eligible for a motability vehcile to make it fair though, would they?

roaringdragon · 24/10/2026 13:51

WiddlinDiddlin · 24/10/2026 13:19

So you propose the design and creation of 1 vehicle to suit all disabled people.

It needs to be low enough to the ground so that people can get in it - have enough headroom and room in the back for large power chairs - needs to have enough headroom in the front and width to fit someone who wants to drive from their chair - it needs to fit a family of four in case the drive-from-chair lease holder is also a parent with children to ferry around - don't forget room for the assistance dog...

Basically you want every disabled person in a 30K + people carrier, that costs a fortune to fill up and run.

And if they are not a wheelchair user and could have benefited from a smaller, cheaper vehicle, tough titty.

And yes, it is jealousy. I'll stand by that. Jealous that we're getting something shiny that you're not getting, which is easy to do if you think we're all liars and cheats, which you're being told we all are by all the media on a pretty much daily basis. Particularly easy if you believe that welfare benefits are the reason you're poor... which they are not, and that of course, genuine claimants wouldn't be affected by any benefits cuts - which they would and in fact already are.

But not too low otherwise DS1’s swivel seat that comes out of the car wouldn’t fit. Fitting a family of 4 wouldn’t be big enough here either.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 24/10/2026 13:29

I came across a post on Facebook this morning about a young violin teacher who also performs at functions. He has just been diagnosed with myocarditis after a bad bout of tonsilitis. Fortunately it should only impact him for about 6 months, but he has to rest and get other performers for around 45 gigs lined up over the next few months. Looking at his bio he seems to be a "hardworking" professional in his field, and from a "good stable" background. I don't think he's UK based, so doubt he's rushing out to blag a free car and house from the state.

I'm writing about it from the perspective of never knowing what's around the corner, regardless of one's circumstances.

He is one of a legion of people who "do everything right" and wake up one morning to a body that has turned on them and left them in the hands of a multitude of professionals and whatever systems operate where they reside. Someone who has to completely alter their lifestyle, adjust physically and mentally to changes outside of their immediate control and try to do it with good grace.

And those who are judged to not have "done everything right" are usually in that position for a myriad of reasons - financial, emotional, genetic etc etc.

Those who are disadvantaged from birth have families that love, care and struggle every day to achieve any semblance of dignity and comfort because economics trumps humanitarian concern more and more.

Given the explosion in technological advancements over the last few decades, and our ever growing understanding of the human condition, we have a wealth of resources that could improve things for everyone across the board.

But no, we feed the industrial military complex, the egos of billionaires, and we prioritise pouring money into the coffers of those whose outlook is positively Smaug or Scrooge like.

It utterly beggars belief that we have things like Christian Nationalism, which is as far from any of Christs teachings as you can get, on the rise, the promotion of eugenecist ideas, white supremacy being touted as virtually mainstream, women being regarded again as the source of all ills etc etc.... and no I am not religious myself in a mainstream sense, I am just hugely attuned to hypocrisy.

We are all here by accident of birth, and we are all subject to the whims of Fate.

When people post about their anxieties around repeating dark periods in our relatively recent history, they are belittled and accused of hyperbole. But it is happening in front of our eyes. So we don't have the uniforms or the camps (yet) but it's the insidious creeping mindset that is the issue. Drip drip drip the poison, divide, scapegoat, problem......solution?

It starts with a balance sheet and the "unfairness" of the provision of housing and in this case Motability cars. It's ridiculous and pathetic to look at those living the most challenging lives and feel aggrieved that they have been afforded some semblance of normality when so much is off limits to them.

Sure, many are struggling right now. But I repeat, it's not down to various groups of the systemically disadvantaged. It's down to poor management, outright corruption, bureaucracy out of control and over inflated egos at the top of the tree.

So take the Motability Mercedes / free houses / stately home visits and whatever else is bugging you at the behest of the populist media and really look at the bigger picture, because in the Shitty Life Lottery, one day it could be you, and that Motability car won't be there, and suddenly your ability to get to appointments for your life limiting or threatening condition will be dependent on patchy and inaccessible public transport or hard to organise hospital transport or the largesse of friends or family who may give you the side eye because they've read an article that suggests you shouldn't be that disabled by whatever is significantly impacting you.

And that's the last point. The horrible existential dread faced by so many when they realise they are being judged as "less than" because the rug got pulled out from under your feet due to the arbitrary misbehavior of your meat suit. It needs to stop. This is the true meaning of unfairness.

WiddlinDiddlin · 24/10/2026 13:19

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:50

The modern equivalent would be big enough to carry a wheelchair.

So you propose the design and creation of 1 vehicle to suit all disabled people.

It needs to be low enough to the ground so that people can get in it - have enough headroom and room in the back for large power chairs - needs to have enough headroom in the front and width to fit someone who wants to drive from their chair - it needs to fit a family of four in case the drive-from-chair lease holder is also a parent with children to ferry around - don't forget room for the assistance dog...

Basically you want every disabled person in a 30K + people carrier, that costs a fortune to fill up and run.

And if they are not a wheelchair user and could have benefited from a smaller, cheaper vehicle, tough titty.

And yes, it is jealousy. I'll stand by that. Jealous that we're getting something shiny that you're not getting, which is easy to do if you think we're all liars and cheats, which you're being told we all are by all the media on a pretty much daily basis. Particularly easy if you believe that welfare benefits are the reason you're poor... which they are not, and that of course, genuine claimants wouldn't be affected by any benefits cuts - which they would and in fact already are.

emuloc · 24/10/2026 13:15

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:50

The modern equivalent would be big enough to carry a wheelchair.

The modern equivalent of what? I am not sure what you are suggesting. There is a scheme in place, which seems to work well for lots of disabled people. What exactly are you wanting to see?

Katemax82 · 24/10/2026 13:11

ThunderThunderThunderThunderCats · 22/10/2026 19:39

Your friends daughter has been GIVEN a 4 bedroom detached house? Who gave it to her? A sugar daddy?

Edited

Im assuming she pays rent via whatever source of income she has even if it's benefits

StressedSupportWorker · 24/10/2026 13:10

TempestTost · 24/10/2026 13:03

The reason people feel this is unfair is that many people are unable to afford a car and it seriously makes their lives worse. Including with regard to going to work.

When benefits only help certain people in need, it's bound to cause resentment.

So what. I can't afford a car and it makes getting to work difficult. I'm still not resenting people for being so disabled they get awarded the higher rate on the mobility component of PIP. The higher rate that equals a grand sum of £80 a week, that you can then use to lease a car.

I prefer being able to walk, thanks. Not giving up my health for 80 quid!

XenoBitch · 24/10/2026 13:10

TempestTost · 24/10/2026 13:03

The reason people feel this is unfair is that many people are unable to afford a car and it seriously makes their lives worse. Including with regard to going to work.

When benefits only help certain people in need, it's bound to cause resentment.

But they are comparing like for like when it is not. Motability is for disabled people. They are comparing themselves to people with disabilities. That is unfair.
Take away the disabilities and PIP, then they would have a point. But they would have nothing to be jealous about then because it would be a moot point.

TempestTost · 24/10/2026 13:03

NoMusicPlease · 22/10/2026 19:40

Yabu.

If you think it's that easy, apply for one and see how far you get. They're vital to allow people with disabilities freedom of movement, which often includes going to work.

Punching down isn't a good look.

The reason people feel this is unfair is that many people are unable to afford a car and it seriously makes their lives worse. Including with regard to going to work.

When benefits only help certain people in need, it's bound to cause resentment.

roaringdragon · 24/10/2026 12:59

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:50

The modern equivalent would be big enough to carry a wheelchair.

You do realise one type of vehicle (or even a handful of types of vehicles) can’t meet the needs of all disabled people. That is why the scheme has a range of vehicles available.

StressedSupportWorker · 24/10/2026 12:56

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:50

The modern equivalent would be big enough to carry a wheelchair.

Why waste time and money designing and manufacturing vehicles specifically to stigmatise disability? What is the purpose in it?

XenoBitch · 24/10/2026 12:56

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:50

The modern equivalent would be big enough to carry a wheelchair.

It is not just a wheelchair... it is other equipment too, and some wheelchairs need a hoist to get them in and out. Some people need carers too. Are they meant to follow on a bicycle?

What would be the point? Why do cars leased via Motability need to look different to cars that are not?

What problem are you trying to solve?

Sahara123 · 24/10/2026 12:54

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:50

The modern equivalent would be big enough to carry a wheelchair.

If only there was a scheme where disabled people could be helped to find a car suited to their needs….,

Simonjt · 24/10/2026 12:54

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:50

The modern equivalent would be big enough to carry a wheelchair.

What sort of wheelchair? And how many passengers would it be able to carry?

Sahara123 · 24/10/2026 12:52

plasticplate · 22/10/2026 22:31

A free bus pass is a definite no for my son since he could not go on public transport. He lives in supported living so needs insurance where he can be driven by multiple different unnamed often young drivers. The motability scheme is the only way to get this insurance. I don't see how the motability scheme would work with second hand vehicles since the ex motability vehicles are sold on to the general public.

A bus pass ! I give up.
We’re the same, I wish she could just hop on a bus but not a chance.

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2026 12:50

TigerRag · 24/10/2026 12:44

And how would you get a wheelchair into one of those?

The modern equivalent would be big enough to carry a wheelchair.

StressedSupportWorker · 24/10/2026 12:49

Sahara123 · 24/10/2026 12:38

Have you ever tried getting a wheelchair into a Dacia spring. I have. You can’t.

With respect, that's irrelevant, because I've giving lifestyle tips to misinformed people without disabilities who are labouring under the delusion that only disabled people can lease cars. They need to know about these opportunities, and they also need to realise that Motability runs the scheme to make a profit out of participants.

I'm sure you can't get a wheelchair into a Dacia Spring, but the people chuntering about how unfair it is that the Motability scheme exists don't even know anyone with a wheelchair, never mind routinely have to help a wheelchair user into a car!

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 24/10/2026 12:49

TigerRag · 24/10/2026 12:44

And how would you get a wheelchair into one of those?

You wouldn't need to. Everyone who claims pip or dla just just a touch of anxiety. Disability is a myth. We could all get e bikes. Or a skateboard. Or get on the bus with the wheelchair strapped to your back.

Or go back to living victorian asylums ideally. Feed on crackers and dripping like back in the good days before all these things existed.

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