AIBU to feel horrified at the number of Motability vehicles being provided?

We can't continue going the way we are going with more and more people claiming to be disabled in some way and requiring public assistance. Sooner or later some politician is going to have to stick their head about the parapet and say enough is enough and people are just going to have to get on with supporting themselves and their families as best they can.

Its not jealousy. Its exasperation.

Exasperation at a system that is far too easy to manipulate, costs too much, and is far too easy to turn into a way of life.

Saying so doesn't mean that you're punching down, unless we all want to shut our eyes and maintain that it does not go on at all.

Give it another five years, and people will be comfortable sticking the boot into families where someone has been diagnosed with terminal cancer. People are getting nastier and nastier.

The woman you are referring to has just discovered, with two very young children, that her husband, in his 40s, has terminal cancer. She has NOT been “signed off” for 12 months. She is trying to navigate the financial and practical implications of the utter shit show she is currently facing.
What is fascinating to me, is that anyone who even questions benefits is labelled as “jealous”. Are YOU jealous of that woman op? Really?

Can you honestly say you see the same level of compassion towards PIP claimants on here & you've never seen comments implying it's easy to claim pip or get a motability car.

I think the majority of people would hesitate before posting something on a cancer thread that they would happily post on one about other disabilities.

Can you honestly say you see the same level of compassion towards PIP claimants on here & you've never seen comments implying it's easy to claim pip or get a motability car.

I think the majority of people would hesitate before posting something on a cancer thread that they would happily post on one about other disabilities.

I have not seen the thread you are on about, but it does feel a bit mean spirited to bring it up here so people can have a go at an OP that can't even defend herself.
If her DP has cancer, she may well be suffering from carer's fatigue, and also depressed about the fact she may lose her spouse at some point. If that is having an impact on her work, and she is unable to bring her whole self to work, then it seems right she is signed off sick for now.

The woman was saying the husband has terminal cancer & her GP has 'signed her off for 12 months'

There were lots of supporting comments from others who had done the same. One saying to take 6 months then come back for a month so you would be entitled to another 6 months sick pay.

She wasn't entitled to sick pay & she should have taken compassionate leave, carers leave & unpaid leave but being the 'right type' of deserving person she could access this with a single form from a GP stating 'mental health'

That's gaming the system & would be impossible to get UC disability top ups, PIP etc without pages of evidence. But yet one is okay & one is hated on?!

There are not the stringent rules that pip & motability have.

That's the point I'm making. It's virtually impossible to claim pip & notability unless you need it but claiming 12 months sick pay doesn't actually need any evidence.

Difference is one is hush hush as she needs the money but an identical person claiming pip & UC because they don't have access to 12 months sick pay is a scrounger ?!

I would say this thread is hating on motability claimants

People can absolutely be off work on sick pay due to stress/mental health. She isn't trying to claim UC or PIP so it is irrelevant really.

We couldn’t lease via a normal leasing company because of the adaptations DS1 needs. The main ones being his swivel seat that comes out of the car and the hoist in the boot.

We aren’t eligible for a grant for the AP, but some people couldn’t take a normal lease out because the they receive a grant for AP.

I haven’t seen that thread, but one can hate societal attitudes towards disabled people without bemoaning the support someone whose husband is terminally ill receives. Carers lives are hard enough, particularly when caring for someone who is dying, and, yes, it can be cause for needing to be off sick from work.

That should be compassionate leave, carers leave or unpaid leave.

Stress, grief, being a career are not illnesses. Sick pay is for an illness.

If she was held to the same standard as people claiming UC or pip she would be found fit for work.

She would need pages of psychiatric reports, MHA assessments, crisis admissions etc for them to consider that her mental health was severe enough to not seek work.

It's not possible to claim pip or motability unless you have thoroughly proved it.

The OP in the other thread freely announces she's gaming her work sick entitlement to cover caring responsibilities, bereavement, personal stressors with a simple tick box sick note by a GP.

And he would obviously be eligible for that & any sick pay.

The carer of someone sick isn't eligible for sick pay. That's not right at all & as the OP in that post has said they just needed a friendly GP to pull that one off. PIP & in particular the high rate of mobility needed for the motability scheme can't be fabricated by a quick note from a GP. It needs pages of evidence & is often rejected & appealed.

But yet the endless threads are hating on PIP & motability which every claimant has proved they are eligible for & not on the people actually claiming things they technically shouldn't

I wouldn't hate on either person...

I agree with you that the way the PIP threads are managed by the moderators is completely inconsistent and illogical. I reckon disability hate threads bring in the clicks.

Are you forgetting that I was on that thread? OP never said that once. OP isn't fit for work right now because understandably, finding out that your husband is not going to see your 3 year old child grow up is going to cause a lot of distress.

MN are removing every comment that questions what the OP are doing as it is upsetting her but they let thread after thread on hating PIP claimants stand?!

The woman was saying the husband has terminal cancer & her GP has 'signed her off for 12 months'

There were lots of supporting comments from others who had done the same. One saying to take 6 months then come back for a month so you would be entitled to another 6 months sick pay.

She wasn't entitled to sick pay & she should have taken compassionate leave, carers leave & unpaid leave but being the 'right type' of deserving person she could access this with a single form from a GP stating 'mental health'

That's gaming the system & would be impossible to get UC disability top ups, PIP etc without pages of evidence. But yet one is okay & one is hated on?!

I have no idea how this person's husband swung that one. It certainly wouldn't have been possible in the NHS organisation where I work. Policies are generous and I won't dispute that. When my dad died, I had 2 weeks off in a combination of bereavement and carer leave (my mother needed my presence while I put things in place for her). When my husband died, I had a total of 5 weeks off, 3 of which were planned annual leave, the others were a combination of bereavement and special leave due to the very difficult circumstances of his death. I appreciated all of it. But 12 months?

And he would obviously be eligible for that & any sick pay.

The carer of someone sick isn't eligible for sick pay. That's not right at all & as the OP in that post has said they just needed a friendly GP to pull that one off. PIP & in particular the high rate of mobility needed for the motability scheme can't be fabricated by a quick note from a GP. It needs pages of evidence & is often rejected & appealed.

But yet the endless threads are hating on PIP & motability which every claimant has proved they are eligible for & not on the people actually claiming things they technically shouldn't

I have no idea how this person's husband swung that one. It certainly wouldn't have been possible in the NHS organisation where I work. Policies are generous and I won't dispute that. When my dad died, I had 2 weeks off in a combination of bereavement and carer leave (my mother needed my presence while I put things in place for her). When my husband died, I had a total of 5 weeks off, 3 of which were planned annual leave, the others were a combination of bereavement and special leave due to the very difficult circumstances of his death. I appreciated all of it. But 12 months?