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It should be mandatory to retake a driving test again age 70 and every five years after that

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InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 13:55

What it says really, especially given the aging population and associated cognitive decline, impacting on reactions, and also cars being larger, and fifty years of bad habits that the driver has got away with
Obviously young men are the most likely to have the worst accidents because of their tendencies towards risky behaviour, but there are steps to address this, and they do tend to hurt themselves more than others
presumably this came up in past years especially given the terrible incident in morningside 2020 with the little boy, but after trying to reason with an obdurate 75 year old father who only hasn’t done something awful for sheer good fortune it’s feeling on my mind

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C8H10N4O2 · 22/10/2026 16:33

LoudWriter · 22/10/2026 16:28

Yes. If my father, my mother in law, my best friends dad, probably all but one of my 10 aunts/uncles are anything to go by (and by the looks of things many many older people you encounter on the roads) I absolutely think older people are incapable of judging this for themselves.

At 70 all your relatives became terrible drivers in denial? Is there a family genetic weakness leading to cognitive impairment on their 70th birthday?

The risk profiles are much lower for a 70 year old with years of road experience vs young male drivers. Perhaps we should be raising the driving test age to 25 for men.

Any cost benefit analysis of putting all 70 year olds through additional driving tests would fail dismally by comparison with eg additional check and controls or random testing of men under 25.

HideousKinky · 22/10/2026 16:36

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:06

Suspend licence whilst they wait on test? Could be an even better scenario

So you're saying that my DH who is 70 and a perfectly safe driver should be suspended from driving whilst he waits for a test?

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 16:38

For tests you have to demonstrate using satnav if asked. Examiner chooses between verbal directions and driving by satnav. Unfair to expect a 70 yr old to suddenly use one if they haven't before. Moreover 70 is way too young. Provided they pass the now necessary eye test, any retesting shouldn't be before 80.

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 16:40

C8H10N4O2 · 22/10/2026 16:33

At 70 all your relatives became terrible drivers in denial? Is there a family genetic weakness leading to cognitive impairment on their 70th birthday?

The risk profiles are much lower for a 70 year old with years of road experience vs young male drivers. Perhaps we should be raising the driving test age to 25 for men.

Any cost benefit analysis of putting all 70 year olds through additional driving tests would fail dismally by comparison with eg additional check and controls or random testing of men under 25.

Excellent idea to raise driving age to 75 for males.

70yrolddriver · 22/10/2026 16:41

People over 70 can have free eye tests at Boots, Specsavers, independent opticians. You get a print out signed and stamped. It should be mandatory to send that report to the dvla as part of your licence renewal. All driving licences expire automatically at age 70, (even if you have only just renewed it at age 69) and you have to reapply. The dvla needs to get more efficient.
That said, the worst driving I have seen is always young men. Drug driving, drink driving and aggressive driving should result in loss of licence and vehicle. The man who almost killed my dd actually said he was not aware that we give way to the right on roundabouts in this country. He hit her at speed bouncing her car off the barriers on the roundabout, spinning it round and bouncing it off the railings along the pavement. Complete write off. She was trapped in her car, both doors crushed and he was yelling and swearing, threatening to drag her out. All recorded on the 999 call she made from inside her car. The police just let him go.

Oioiqueen · 22/10/2026 16:41

I don't think it should be restricted to 70+. I personally think everyone should resit a driver awareness test every ten years to receive another driving licence at renewal. The highway code changes frequently, people don't keep up with it and just general education. However the sheer number of people who drive without a licence anyway I'm not sure how you would police it and check drivers to if they have it.

I would personally love cars to be registered to people by scanning eyes before the engine starts. It holds information on you personally to if you are insured, the vehicle taxed, have a driving licence, banned, DVLA removed licence etc. Don't have those or they've ran out then the car doesn't start. However this is completely a utopian view and never going to happen except in my head 😂.

LoudWriter · 22/10/2026 16:43

C8H10N4O2 · 22/10/2026 16:33

At 70 all your relatives became terrible drivers in denial? Is there a family genetic weakness leading to cognitive impairment on their 70th birthday?

The risk profiles are much lower for a 70 year old with years of road experience vs young male drivers. Perhaps we should be raising the driving test age to 25 for men.

Any cost benefit analysis of putting all 70 year olds through additional driving tests would fail dismally by comparison with eg additional check and controls or random testing of men under 25.

I'm not against additional checks on men under 25 years either. I think far fewer people should be on the roads in general.

It's not just cognitive impairment is it. It's to do risk taking, physical capabilities, speed of reactions etc.

I do however think there's something about having to acknowledge the fact they're getting older that does leave older drivers a little less willing to assess their own abilities honestly.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 16:43

Boomer55 · 22/10/2026 16:31

Most accidents are caused by drivers under 25. 🤷‍♀️

And we know this, accept this, and steps are being taking to deal with this.

The next largest group for accidents, the over 80s is generally met with either “oh my days I really wish there was a law and my father/mother/auntie Pam/ next door neighbour could be barred from driving, they’re an absolute menace “ or “old people pare statistically safer how dare you take away their independence “

I said over 70 because decline is happening by then, whether people want to admit it or not

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PepsiBook · 22/10/2026 16:44

Definitely. Many old people just do not want to believe that they are not safe to drive. I know of a few myself. And many very clearly cannot see, that would help with sorting an eye test.

plasticplate · 22/10/2026 16:45

There should be restrictions on younger drivers carrying young passengers.

Crikeyalmighty · 22/10/2026 16:46

I think it should come in at 80

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Monty36 · 22/10/2026 16:51

You cannot lump all people of one age all together. I know people do.
70 will include people still able and capable. The administration costs of such an enterprise alone would be quite crazy.
Menaces on the road for me are those without a licence and who are uninsured. Who drive whilst on drugs. Who drive cars with no MOT.

Onetimeusername1 · 22/10/2026 16:53

I think 70 is too young, not because I'm anywhere near it myself just to be clear! I would be on board for 80 though. I've had to beg elderly relatives to stop driving, far too much confidence because it's something they've 'always done'. They all had appalling lane discipline, no giving way on roundabouts and a lack of signalling or being aware of anybody else signalling. Terrifying!

Onetimeusername1 · 22/10/2026 16:54

Of course you can lump people together, that's why we don't let people drive until they are 17 whereas other countries are younger and the administration cost of that enterprise could be seen as crazy...

PrettyPickle · 22/10/2026 16:59

I think part of the problem with your idea OP is that just mandatorily saying that everyone at 70 must retake their driving test potentially comes under the category of ageism, I think.

However asking, as someone else mentioned, for them to present at that stage evidence from their GP/Opticians that they are still fit to drive if perhaps an idea because there is medical justification due to the natural deterioration of age.

In UK law, age is a protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010. However, age discrimination can sometimes be lawful if there is a "legitimate aim" and the measure is "proportionate". For example, there are already different rules at age 70. Driving licences must be renewed at 70 and every three years thereafter. Drivers must make a declaration that they remain medically fit to drive. Certain medical conditions must be reported to the DVLA.
So the principle of treating over-70s differently already exists. The question would be whether a compulsory practical retest is justified by the evidence.

Arguments against a retest: Many drivers in their 70s have decades of experience and very safe driving records. The data generally show that drivers in their early 70s are not among the highest-risk groups. A blanket retest could remove competent drivers from the road and reduce independence.

Arguments for a retest: Some age-related declines in eyesight, reaction time and cognitive function can occur without the individual recognising them. A practical assessment might identify people who are no longer safe to drive. Society already requires tests to gain a licence, so periodic reassessment is not an entirely new concept.

Personally, I think there is a stronger evidence-based case for what an earlier poster suggested. Regular eyesight certification from an optician. GP or medical practitioner confirmation where relevant conditions exist. Targeted driving assessments when concerns arise.

Rather than automatically requiring every 70-year-old to take a full driving test, regardless of their health or driving record.

In fact, one criticism of a GP sign-off system is that GPs often know little about a patient's actual driving ability, whereas eyesight can be measured objectively. Some experts therefore favour a mandatory eyesight tests at renewal. Disclosure of medical conditions and a specialised driving assessments only where there are concerns.

An interesting comparison is that we don't generally retest people because they're 17 to 24, even though that group statistically presents a much higher risk. If the sole objective were reducing insurance claims and collisions, a risk-based argument could be made for additional assessments of young drivers as well. That's one reason opponents of age-based retesting often describe it as unfairly focusing on age rather than demonstrated risk.

So I'd say: mandatory eyesight evidence at 70 would probably attract broad support, whereas mandatory retesting at 70 is much more likely to be viewed as potentially ageist unless there is strong evidence showing it improves safety enough to justify the different treatment.

Hundslappadrifa · 22/10/2026 17:01

No sorry, most 17-25 year old men are unfit to drive, but they’re allowed to keep hurting their mates and other innocent people. Shouldn’t we focus more on them?

FunPreventionOfficer · 22/10/2026 17:03

70yrolddriver · 22/10/2026 16:41

People over 70 can have free eye tests at Boots, Specsavers, independent opticians. You get a print out signed and stamped. It should be mandatory to send that report to the dvla as part of your licence renewal. All driving licences expire automatically at age 70, (even if you have only just renewed it at age 69) and you have to reapply. The dvla needs to get more efficient.
That said, the worst driving I have seen is always young men. Drug driving, drink driving and aggressive driving should result in loss of licence and vehicle. The man who almost killed my dd actually said he was not aware that we give way to the right on roundabouts in this country. He hit her at speed bouncing her car off the barriers on the roundabout, spinning it round and bouncing it off the railings along the pavement. Complete write off. She was trapped in her car, both doors crushed and he was yelling and swearing, threatening to drag her out. All recorded on the 999 call she made from inside her car. The police just let him go.

Was your DD critical in hospital, break any bones or just shaken and bruised after the collision. Unless the police believed that there was a chance that she could actually die then they wouldn’t arrest the driver. Pretty much all collisions are dealt with slow time after the event rather than there and then at the scene.

GeorginaWilby · 22/10/2026 17:06

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:08

And if you started at 70 as a formality, passed, and then retested five years later and didn’t , you might be more willing to concede your driving days were done

it would also pick up people who need glasses but hasn’t had their eyes tested since they left school

I'm in my mid 70's. I've never heard of a person my age not bothering to have their vision tested since their school days! Older people are having their eyes tested A LOT because of our worsening vision. When you get cataracts you know it, because you can't see shit, especially at night. Everyone I know close to me stopped driving, on. their own, because they couldn't see properly anymore. After their cataract surgery and are driving again. I'm having my cataract surgery today.
Disclaimer; I'm in the U.S. It takes less than two months from start to finish to get in to get the surgery, and it's fully covered by medicare. So, it's a very common procedure. Maybe it isn't in the UK.

TrackingShoe · 22/10/2026 17:06

I have always thought a good way to link people taking responsibility for their driving is via insurance. Have a scheme where taking an advanced driving tests every X years makes a massive impact on your insurance premiums. It’s not mandatory, so you don’t have to do it, but let’s say your insurance goes up to a minimum of £3k a year if you don’t.

Let’s face it - how many people do you know who have done any form of driver training since they passed their test? I bet not many, and the ones who have is because they have taken a driving test for a different category of vehicle.

It’s alarming how often people say (and with a weird sense of pride) “oh I wouldn’t pass my test if I had to take it again!” Really?! That is the minimum standard - we should all be capable of driving to the minimum standard! Why are people proud that they don’t think they could? And if they don’t think they could, why do they not do something to improve their skills?????

Benvenuto · 22/10/2026 17:07

I think eventually there will be legislation on older drivers - there have been too many heart-breaking cases of collisions caused by people who really should have given up driving & eventually there will be a tipping point & the Government will act.

I don’t like the “do young drivers” first argument as the Government is in exactly the same position re younger drivers: too many appalling cases & eventually they will have to act. It’s act on both groups - not an either/or situation.

I also think that those of us younger than retirement age should recognise that we may not be able to drive in our old age & start thinking about what changes we would need in our local area to support living without a car.

Gobbledegoo · 22/10/2026 17:11

A great many issues with older drivers could be sorted out with an eye sight test. A lot of medical issues are picked up at opticians and they could be obligated to inform DVLA of any issues. This is why I advocate mandatory eye tests at 1 year/18 month intervals for Everyone who has any sort of vehicle license.

Lomonald · 22/10/2026 17:16

Gobbledegoo · 22/10/2026 17:11

A great many issues with older drivers could be sorted out with an eye sight test. A lot of medical issues are picked up at opticians and they could be obligated to inform DVLA of any issues. This is why I advocate mandatory eye tests at 1 year/18 month intervals for Everyone who has any sort of vehicle license.

I have an uncle that I believe it is cognitive decline, he lives near us and we have seen how badly he drives, he has been reported to DVLA by a family member so we will see how it goes

Nolongera · 22/10/2026 17:18

I have multiple driving licence categories, how many tests will I have to take?

Load of cobblers.

70yrolddriver · 22/10/2026 17:22

FunPreventionOfficer · 22/10/2026 17:03

Was your DD critical in hospital, break any bones or just shaken and bruised after the collision. Unless the police believed that there was a chance that she could actually die then they wouldn’t arrest the driver. Pretty much all collisions are dealt with slow time after the event rather than there and then at the scene.

She was injured and needed hospital treatment. Still has pain over a decade later. I have a good friend whose father was knocked down on a pedestrian crossing, Died a few days later in hospital. the police didn't arrest that driver either. It really isn't good enough IMO. That man shouldn't have been on the road. He clearly hadn't taken a driving test.