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It should be mandatory to retake a driving test again age 70 and every five years after that

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InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 13:55

What it says really, especially given the aging population and associated cognitive decline, impacting on reactions, and also cars being larger, and fifty years of bad habits that the driver has got away with
Obviously young men are the most likely to have the worst accidents because of their tendencies towards risky behaviour, but there are steps to address this, and they do tend to hurt themselves more than others
presumably this came up in past years especially given the terrible incident in morningside 2020 with the little boy, but after trying to reason with an obdurate 75 year old father who only hasn’t done something awful for sheer good fortune it’s feeling on my mind

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BatonGardens · 22/10/2026 17:24

Livelovebehappy · 22/10/2026 16:30

Not sure they would. I think young males just focus on how to ‘pass the test’ not how to learn to drive. As soon as they then get behind the wheel after they’ve passed, they do what they want to do rather than what they should do. Therefore a year of not following the rules will absolutely mean they won’t be capable of passing another test.

I reckon they would just focus on how to pass the test again. What we need is a dickhead detector test..

MrMurphysComeuppance · 22/10/2026 17:26

I agree. 70 might be pushing it, but 75 absolutely.

Maybe you should go for a sort of assessment at 70 and if you don't get above a certain standard then you must retake your test.

Doneworking · 22/10/2026 17:31

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:06

Suspend licence whilst they wait on test? Could be an even better scenario

You do realise that some 70 year olds could still be working or live somewhere where public transport is not an option.

70yrolddriver · 22/10/2026 17:33

TrackingShoe · 22/10/2026 17:06

I have always thought a good way to link people taking responsibility for their driving is via insurance. Have a scheme where taking an advanced driving tests every X years makes a massive impact on your insurance premiums. It’s not mandatory, so you don’t have to do it, but let’s say your insurance goes up to a minimum of £3k a year if you don’t.

Let’s face it - how many people do you know who have done any form of driver training since they passed their test? I bet not many, and the ones who have is because they have taken a driving test for a different category of vehicle.

It’s alarming how often people say (and with a weird sense of pride) “oh I wouldn’t pass my test if I had to take it again!” Really?! That is the minimum standard - we should all be capable of driving to the minimum standard! Why are people proud that they don’t think they could? And if they don’t think they could, why do they not do something to improve their skills?????

IME a large part of the problem is people driving around with no licence, no insurance. It is far too easy. A child at my DC's school was killed by a driver with no licence or insurance. The parent is a member of the local branch of a charity/pressure group for victims and relatives of traffic incidents. It seems to be the same story in many of the cases.

godmum56 · 22/10/2026 17:35

KojaksLollipop · 22/10/2026 14:08

I think this is a problem with your father, not with the vast 70+ population.

this precisely.

godmum56 · 22/10/2026 17:36

BatonGardens · 22/10/2026 17:24

I reckon they would just focus on how to pass the test again. What we need is a dickhead detector test..

I'd vote for that one and not just for driving.

Doneworking · 22/10/2026 17:36

A better option would be for everyone to have an assessment (not a test) when you renew your licence (as you do every 10 years) to highlight any bad habits. Let’s be honest no one of any age is a perfect driver despite what they think.

70yrolddriver · 22/10/2026 17:39

FunPreventionOfficer · 22/10/2026 17:03

Was your DD critical in hospital, break any bones or just shaken and bruised after the collision. Unless the police believed that there was a chance that she could actually die then they wouldn’t arrest the driver. Pretty much all collisions are dealt with slow time after the event rather than there and then at the scene.

And therein lies the problem. No consequences for aggressive, dangerous driving and an admission of lack of knowledge of understanding of the highway code, followed by threats and violent behaviour towards the innocent victim you have injured and whose car you have written off. Just off you go and keep on driving.

Imdunfer · 22/10/2026 17:53

Doneworking · 22/10/2026 17:31

You do realise that some 70 year olds could still be working or live somewhere where public transport is not an option.

That's up to them. We moved in order not to risk getting into that situation. Lucky we did, my DH became epileptic 2 years later and lost his licence.

There are also things called taxis.

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 18:06

C8H10N4O2 · 22/10/2026 16:33

At 70 all your relatives became terrible drivers in denial? Is there a family genetic weakness leading to cognitive impairment on their 70th birthday?

The risk profiles are much lower for a 70 year old with years of road experience vs young male drivers. Perhaps we should be raising the driving test age to 25 for men.

Any cost benefit analysis of putting all 70 year olds through additional driving tests would fail dismally by comparison with eg additional check and controls or random testing of men under 25.

Wow, @LoudWriter had better make hay while the sun shines. Looking at her relatives, she's going to become gaa gaa young.

BatmanBinSuparman · 22/10/2026 18:06

mugglewump · 22/10/2026 15:19

I would advocate for health and cognative checks rather than resitting the driving test. And maybe, obligatory black boxes for drivers under 21 and over 81.

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The issue with a black box for those over 80, is it seems they are driving steadily. What’s actually happening is they are pulling out on other traffic, forcing others to take evasive action.

dash cam with footage sent into be analysed

Doneworking · 22/10/2026 18:10

Imdunfer · 22/10/2026 17:53

That's up to them. We moved in order not to risk getting into that situation. Lucky we did, my DH became epileptic 2 years later and lost his licence.

There are also things called taxis.

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Of course there are taxis and yes it’s up to them they live, however often property is more difficult in major towns and cities and people may not be able to afford to move there. For some being able to drive is a lifeline. Rather than focussing on elderly drivers, as I said earlier everyone should have to do an assessment when they renew their licence. If you’re confident you’re a perfect driver then it shouldn’t be a problem, but I do believe none of us are perfect.

Passaggressfedup · 22/10/2026 18:14

That's up to them. We moved in order not to risk getting into that situation. Lucky we did, my DH became epileptic 2 years later and lost his licence
You want older people to move just because their licence has been suspended whilst they wait for a test that in the very vast majority will confirm they are absolutely safe to drive?

And that's not ageism? Why is racism seen as a major crime but ageism perfectly acceptable on MN? It's shocking!

Stanislas · 22/10/2026 18:17

It is easy enough to get a taxi unless you have your vital medical appointment which coincides with school start or finishing times. Around where I live schools have staggered endings and most taxis are dependent on school runs . Then finding a clean taxi that doesn’t reek and a driver that doesn’t start in a rush and slam on brakes and play very loud music or says they are not registered with this council and must drop you off at the bottom of a steep hill . I have had all these situations in the past year . I take the cards of drivers who have clean cars drive know how to use deodorant.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 22/10/2026 18:17

MrTiddlesTheCat · 22/10/2026 14:05

Do you think older people are incapable of judging for themselves if they're fit to drive or not?

Some older people are realistic and judge their capabilities well.

Some older people simply don't want to acknowledge slowing reflexes, more eye-related problems driving in the dark and face the fact they're slowly not able to do as much as they were. Plus some people really really struggle with transport in the countryside without a car.

Sometimessmiling · 22/10/2026 18:19

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:05

It’s not ageist if it’s proportionate in terms of reducing risk though surely?
young people on their 20s have much higher insurance than someone in their sixitirs because it’s calculated on risk
my father is an absolute liability, refuses to acknowledge that he’s a danger to himself and others -and only hasn’t hurt someone because it turns out they’ve got better reflexes than he does . He took the battery out of my grandmothers car when she was 80 , with vascular dementia and refused to stop driving , but I don’t see that working at this stage

Most aggressive and dangerous driving is by young people...... they are the problem not the older generation. Mumsnet is so ageist

AitkenDrum1970 · 22/10/2026 18:19

MrTiddlesTheCat · 22/10/2026 14:05

Do you think older people are incapable of judging for themselves if they're fit to drive or not?

Sadly, often not

JenniferBooth · 22/10/2026 18:23

Knitterlybliss · 22/10/2026 14:50

There is a scheme with the Institute of Advanced Motorists whereby over 70s (actually I think it's anyone) can do an assessment of their driving. Not mandatory but I've done it and it's really useful. The instructor pointed out some bad habits I'd picked up after 40 years which weren't dangerous,but addressing them has, hopefully,made me a better driver.

That might be an idea for anyone dealing with someone who is resisting stopping altogether.

Is it this one?
www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5494487-to-think-rospa-should-make-it-clear-that-older-driver-assessments-might-result-in-a-loss-of-license?page=1

Stayandfight · 22/10/2026 18:24

70 is only 3 years after retirement age, lots of people are still working. As retirement age increases are working people going to have take tests and not be able to get to work as there is a long delay in tests?

Bushmillsbabe · 22/10/2026 18:30

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:51

Hospital transport? Spend the money they’re not spending on driving on a taxi? Consider moving somewhere less isolated?

You do know GP's don't provide transport?

For people like my parents, where my Dad has dementia (but my mum is fine) you think they should move somewhere unfamiliar, and make him even more distressed? It's not even really isolated places which struggle. There are 6 thousand people in my village. We have 4 buses a day. The nearest acute hospital is nearly an hour away, probably £100 round trip, on a pension.

Why are you so focused on the group who statistically cause the least crashes? 17-24 has the most crashes, and males much more than females. Should men have to retake their test more often? I think maybe they should retake it after a couple years to make sure not got into bad habits

Chilihealer · 22/10/2026 18:36

I’ve said this for years and OAPs always kick up a fuss over their independence but honestly the amount of times I’ve nearly been rammed off the road by an 80 year old woman that obviously thinks she’s well within her lane staring wide eyed ahead is a joke. Not even a test necessarily just a lesson and if the instructor thinks you need a test it’s then put forward, I actually think this should happen every license renewal so 10years. It’s not just old people that are idiots on the road I think we could all do with a bit of monitoring and once every ten years then maybe go to 5 years at 70, just a ‘check up’ with an every day instructor that has authority to issue an order for a retest if necessary. I’d be happy to do this and I’ve only been driving 13 years.

Skdkhvyvrhej · 22/10/2026 18:38

Chipandcherry · 22/10/2026 15:10

I agree, but 70 is too young. I think it should be from age 80. And realistically, with the lack of availability of driving tests, I think it should be a specific test signed off by a GP (or other specific medical centre professional) which checks cognitive function, spatial capacity and reaction speeds, rather than an actual driving test.
The stats of 'older drivers' having dangerous collisions is pretty low, but that is because older drivers are classified as 70 and older. 70 to 80 year olds are generally pretty safe, but from 80 upwards it's a terrifying set of statistics! I'll try to upload a graph I found from the .gov.uk page...

I think that graph is very clearly demonstrating it should be from 70.

Something is happening at 70 very abruptly to turn that flatline of experience sharply upward. Just because everyone isn’t crashing immediately doesn’t mean there isn’t an issue.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 18:39

i was contemplating an “as as well” not an instead of as looking at measures to improve safety and reduce accidents in younger drivers by thinking retests for those of more mature years might be a good idea - 70 is regarded as far too young but 80 seems palatable
The very old and the very newly passed can both be very dangerous to themselves and others, and it seems odd that both aren’t directly legislated against

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godmum56 · 22/10/2026 18:40

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 18:39

i was contemplating an “as as well” not an instead of as looking at measures to improve safety and reduce accidents in younger drivers by thinking retests for those of more mature years might be a good idea - 70 is regarded as far too young but 80 seems palatable
The very old and the very newly passed can both be very dangerous to themselves and others, and it seems odd that both aren’t directly legislated against

I don't think anybody should be "legislated against"