Can we talk about Laura Brand

But even this is designed to garner sympathy from the public isn't it.
A video interview of them and their baby boy.
"Oh but look at what WE have gone through with our little boy! He was only 10 weeks old and I had to drive to hospital with him! He had to have open heart surgery as a baby! Don't make it even worse for me by taking my husband away from me and putting him in jail! I won't cope on my own!".
Look, I'm sorry their child needed open heart surgery. But as Russell says in the video, he's fine now.
Her husband is still a rapist.
At the end she says "I don't want to do this (parenting) on my own so I hope the system isn't as fucked as we all think it is!" and then they both have a good old laugh together about it.
So she goes on camera to say she hopes the judicial system doesn't believe these 6 raped and abused women. Women her own husband raped and abused.
I feel really, really angry with her after watching this clip.

I listened to a podcast that was discussing what she said in court. It was Russell who told her to clean up her mess and told her that there were wipes in the bathroom. She tried to clean it the best she could then pulled the covers over in an attempt to hide it. Then the driver who had taken her there appeared, told her Russell had to be somewhere and drove her to the station.
She was crying in the car, he didn't say anythjng but handed her some tissues.

I'm finding the news podcasts alot more detailed than anything that's been reported on social media/in the news. The BBC sounds one is good.

I was worried about how the jury would unpick it . It wouldn’t matter if she smeared it everywhere . I was just worried the would say. It not possible to clean up blood and poo grok bed sheets with wipes. I was worrying for her mostly, I just hoped she’d made it clear that she had tried but couldn’t do it which I’ve not found out she had. It’s not really about th cleaning but consistency of story as I don’t want her to be accused.

ive been raped too. And I too had to testify in court and I wasn’t believed. So perhaps I’m too emotionally invested in these girls being believed.

Right. But she had just been brutally raped and was no doubt in pain, humiliated and terrified he would hurt her again so wasn’t in the right frame of mind to put a boil wash on or something. Whoever and wherever she is I hope she doesn’t stumble on this thread and see your comments.

I was raped many times by my ex years ago. I’ve made peace with what happened and mostly forgiven myself for what he did. But comments from people (well my mum) on why I didn’t do xyz instead of abc when it was all still very raw hurt me a lot.

Sorry. I just usually find wiping poo or blood on fabric just makes it worse. But yeah stupid comment and consideration and totally irrelevant. My mind always questions things when I feel attached to an outcome and because of what’s at stake. Perhaps it’s just anxiety. Apologies for being stupid though.

Sorry. I just usually find wiping poo or blood on fabric just makes it worse. But yeah stupid comment and consideration and totally irrelevant. My mind always questions things when I feel attached to an outcome and because of what’s at stake. Perhaps it’s just anxiety. Apologies for being stupid though.

Hopefully the prosecution does a good enough job and the people on the jury don’t think the way you do. Btw the wipes comment is odd. People clean up poo all the time with wipes 😐

I know it’s absolutely abhorrent. im just hoping it doesn’t make the jury question her report.

Hmm I don’t think it’s fair to pick holes in what this victim has said. She was there, you were not. More or less accusing a victim of lying about a violent crime is so harmful as it continues to perpetuate harmful myths and stereotypes about victims of rape and how they “should” behave and react.

I do hope he goes down but I’m concerned about some the defense or jury picking holes in the testimonies.

Eg. Woman 5 said he flipped her over, removed his condom and the anally raped her. And her head was in pillows and she couldn’t breathe.
as horrifying as this is. How did she know he removed his condom at this point if her head was face down in the pillows. ?

she also said she cleaned up the blood and excrement with wipes which actually isn’t possible…

I think you've over analysed that conversation, she says "maybe" you did say that. People can think they said something different, people can misshear things.
As for a woman supporting him, there are strangers supporting him. It can't be so difficult to believe that his wife believes him and supports him.
I don't believe him. However, I do think there are things about him that have changed. I do think men can be different versions of themselves with different women and I think they quite often are different with different women. This is a woman he chose to marry, he may have respect for her that he hasn't had for other women, she may see him as a good, respectful man who respects her boundaries and consent.
I've seen several posts on here of women finding out their H has seen a prostitute and they have been in absolute shock because they thought they had a man who respects women and would never do something so seedy. It works the other way too, there are men who put on the charm for women and seem like great men but when they have a wife where they want her they abuse her.
I doubt we will ever really know the ins and outs of their relationship, maybe she is standing by him knowing or at least believing he sexually assaulted other women. Maybe she is another one of his victims. Maybe she is naive. Maybe she believes that this is a witch hunt from the media and the allegations don't match what she knows of him. I do think she looks quite comfortable in the video so I lean towards the latter.

I thought similarly re her childhood... I'd be surprised if there wasn't someone then, that makes Brand feel familiar.

He just uses long words that gullible people fall for. He’s a charlatan.

He has the gift of the gab. I hope he doesn’t get his chance in the witness stand and they all just stick to the facts, so the correct justice is served.

This is so fucked up, what were they thinking!!
Her adoration for her rapist husband is being prioritised over the safety and protection of her own children. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I had sympathy for LB before they posted the
picture of their daughters. They’ve never done that before. It’s clearly aimed at getting publicity and hoping the world see him as a loving family man. The fact she’s put him before the privacy of her daughters, during a fucking rape trial, is absolutely despicable. She doesn’t deserve any sympathy.

He has the gift of the gab. I hope he doesn’t get his chance in the witness stand and they all just stick to the facts, so the correct justice is served.

@Klippinwell wipes are used all the time to clean baby poo aren’t they!

I've just looked this up as I haven't been following the full details daily. I think, from what I have just read, that she was directed to clean up and directed to use wet wipes. It doesn't say she was successful. It says she complied. This is such a nickpickety point. It makes me despair.