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My DH wants to move out because I washed the car I'm the wrong way

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Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 08:50

Im 41, My DH (50) is recently diagnosed autistic. He's always been pretty rigid so the diagnosis didn't come as a surprise.
Yesterday we were going to his parents house me and the kids were driving there but DH was taking bus from work. The car was really muddy so spur of the moment I decided to drive through the car wash on the way there (his parents are quite judgy so I didnt fancy rocking up in a muddy car). Now full transparency DH has asked me not to go through the car wash as it "ruins the paintwork" but he also promised to wash it himself and has only done that twice since we bought the car in March. Anyway we had a nice time with his family and we went out to the local pub for some food DH and his parents had a couple pints and I entertained the kids and drove everyone home afterwards. But when we got into the car my youngest made a remark that we went through the car wash on the way there. DH was totally silent the whole way home (which was awkward as kids and me were chatting away) and went straight to bed without even saying goodnight to me or the kids. Then when I apologised he freaked out saying I don't respect him as he only asked me "one thing" and it shows what I think of him said everyone would be happier if he lived in an apartment alone. I said it sounds like thats what you want. He said yes that's true. So I said " OK fine I won't stand in your way take the car and go get an apartment" to which he then said angrily "you'd like that wouldn't you. This is my home I'm not leaving" like wtf I can't keep up. This morning he's still not speaking to me.

OP posts:
Whattodo1610 · Today 10:55

pinkdelight · Today 10:30

'TALK'? To the guy whose giving her the days' long silent treatment? You say it like she's not the one who's already tried to do counselling with him and no doubt tried to work on it together with him countless times but it's not what he does. He sets rules, he hides in other rooms alone, he sulks. Ofs they need to TALK, but it's weird to say it as though somehow the OP has failed to try this.

Don’t be ridiculous, where exactly have I said OP has failed to try to talk to her dh? Nowhere. Stop projecting rubbish. There’s a difference between trying to get him to an external place to be joined by someone else to join in and facilitate their communication and actually sitting in your own home with no distractions. Telling him categorically (given that he’s autistic and may need complete guidance), “we are going to sit down on x date, x time, and sort x out thoroughly” is a very different scenario.

RudePhthaloDalmadoodle · Today 10:56

I think there's an error in your title; it should read "husband does NOT want to move out; wants to stay and be an abusive prick instead". I think he told you everything you need to know when he refused to even consider couples counselling. (Although if he really is abusive - and if his threatening to move out and giving you the "silent treatment" is typical, he probably is - counselling wouldn't have worked anyway.) There's no future here but a miserable one, IMO.

UnintentionalArcher · Today 10:56

JamSwirl · Today 09:25

Well it's not good he asked for one thing that mattered to him, and you decided your way was better. I'm not sure being nd has anything to do with that.

I think this boils down to he knows you don't want him around. You even said so yourself. And it seems there are some things he doesn't like about you. So to be kind to all you should figure that out as you clearly don't suit living together. But don't chuck him out of his own home or threaten that. Isn't that pretty cruel.

She did it her way (car wash) because he hadn’t consistently done the way he’d agreed to (wash it himself) and it had become very dirty. It wouldn’t be reasonable to object to someone taking it upon themselves to get the job done in their way in those circumstances.

Also, the OP said that her DH initiated the conversation about him leaving. He said he should go and live in an apartment on his own and she just didn’t stand in his way. So she didn’t ‘threaten’ him - unless I’ve missed a post!

PerhapsPerhapsMaybe · Today 10:56

I’m curious about your youngest blurting it out. 6 years old is old enough to be aware of tensions between parents and what causes them.

Madamefroufrou · Today 10:57

LIZS · Today 10:49

Op was damned whether it was washed or not! If she had taken it dirty so it was remarked upon h would have blamed her anyway and probably spoilt the day out,

possibly, but blame her for what? he would be hoist by his own petard

ScaramoucheCanYouDoTheFandango · Today 10:58

Phineyj · Today 10:40

I mean it's fine to feel like that about car washes but it's not fine to feel like that but also not wash it yourself! Washing a car only twice in 6 months can also damage the car and can even be dangerous if you can't see out properly.

I can’t find the bit where the OP said there was a safety issue with seeing out (thought I’d missed it) because as far as I can see she didn’t.

OP knew it would damage the paintwork because he told her and she went ahead knowing the other car owner would not consent to it. That is wrong. His over reaction does not erase her action.

He is allowed to be upset she damaged the paintwork on their car when asked not to, but the extreme reaction is OTT, not acceptable, and she needs to look at if this is a pattern, and if it is a relationship she wants to continue.

PashaMinaMio · Today 10:58

rubyslippers · Today 08:59

Silent treatment and sulking is abusive
that’s nothing to do with any diagnosis he may have
he sounds nasty and hard work
i think it must be awful living with someone like that

I was told many years ago that the silent treatment is abuse.
It’s hateful & made me feel absolutely terrible. Diminished, anxious & very very upset.

Frankly I’d kick him out to go find his apartment. You’ll be much happier.

It’s often a small thing (like car washing) that triggers and is a catalyst for change. Seize it or you’ll be on MN again in a few years.

Protect your peace.

Calliopespa · Today 10:58

PerhapsPerhapsMaybe · Today 10:56

I’m curious about your youngest blurting it out. 6 years old is old enough to be aware of tensions between parents and what causes them.

6 is only little.

I wouldn't want to think my dc were keeping secrets to ease tension at that age.

Car washes are fun! That's probably what occasioned the comment.

Madamefroufrou · Today 10:58

PerhapsPerhapsMaybe · Today 10:56

I’m curious about your youngest blurting it out. 6 years old is old enough to be aware of tensions between parents and what causes them.

yes indeed, blurting out is invariably at the wrong moment,
better training required there OP

TheSunIsAlwaysThere · Today 11:01

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 09:30

How did I threaten him?. He said he'd be happier in an apartment alone and I said "go ahead and get an apartment alone if that's what you want" every other time he's said this I've backed down and said ",no please stay" "we are a family don't go" but why should I do that anymore.... if he wants to go just go ffs

My husband and I were going through a tough patch after I was taking more than five seconds to try and move on from his affair. After one particularly awful morning I found him at the computer inputting for a divorce. Normally I'd say let's talk, we're not getting divorced, let's move on etc but this time I'd had enough. I wonder actually if I had MN in my head. So, with legs shaking I went downstairs and said if that's what he wants, then fine, but he better be damn sure as there's no coming back from it. He didn't press submit. I divorced him later.

edited for wrong auto correct

Batsuke1 · Today 11:04

He sounds very difficult to live with op. If you genuinely would prefer not to live with him then I would start planning for that.

He won’t change and may well get worse as he gets older. I’m married to someone similar and there are certain things he is absolutely rigid on. I don’t cross those lines. Some may say that’s walking on eggshells, but to me it’s a simple fix. These things that seem ridiculous to most of us are a deal breaker for him. To cross the line represents a betrayal. Whether you agree with that or not, that’s how they see it and that won’t change.

Like I said op, if he’s not worth it to you (and it sounds like he’s not), then I would call it a day now. There’s no need for you to spend the rest of your life unhappy.

Anyahyacinth · Today 11:05

ScaramoucheCanYouDoTheFandango · Today 09:14

To be fair mechanical car washes do damage paintwork, you can tell a car has been through one just by looking at it. Last time our car was in for a service they washed it mechanically (we asked them not to wash it, they wrote it down) and we could see it as soon as we picked it up as it was a sunny day. The garage paid for a full t-cut to remove the swirls.

Hand car washes use strong chemicals to speed up washing. Ds’s fiesta grill paint is peeling because of them.

So I get his frustration when he highlighted the issue and asked that the car doesn’t go through them. I think you were wrong to unilaterally decide to use one on a joint car when you knew his concerns.

But shit happens, if I took the car through a car wash dh would not be happy the paintwork was damaged either, but we’d work it out, I’d look at the paint to see the damage, apologise and we’d decide together if we were going to pay to fix it or let it go . The bigger issue is how you as a couple deal with arguments.

He cares about the beauty of the object so much he left it filthy for MONTHS?

SamphiretheTervosaur · Today 11:05

DingDongBerrily · Today 09:53

Strangely, I kind of understand your DH's point of view. He asked you specifically not to do something, and told you the reason, but you went ahead and did it anyway.

Its a car and a car wash

And his opinion was unilaterally laid down as law

Plus he doesn't seem to have kept his promise about cleaning it

So he has equally shown his disdain for OP

They are supposed to be man and wife, not the UK and EU

Betterversionofme · Today 11:08

DingDongBerrily · Today 10:42

I've always thought that the whole point of marriage is for the stability of society, to create structure and order in society and to give children a secure upbringing, and the happiness, or otherwise, of the individuals within a marriage is secondary to its primary purpose.

If people discard a marriage for trivial reasons, then eventually society breaks down - which is perhaps what has been happening over the past 40 to 50 years as individuals pursue their own happiness at the expense of others'.

Society is secondary. If there are no humans, there is no human society. Society is made up from individual humans. We have society, social order, to make people's lives better. People don't exist for society to exist, it's other way around.

TheLastSilverSaint · Today 11:08

The autism diagnosis is irrelevant here. He’s extremely controlling and abusive and has you walking on eggshells all the time. It’s awful for you and it’s awful for your children who will absolutely have noticed the way he behaves and the tense atmosphere. You’ve ended up in counselling once already because he was so unpleasant to you. You need to end your marriage.

Madamefroufrou · Today 11:10

Cheese55 · Today 10:52

This would lead to my in laws shrugging in agreement if I said that about the muddy car!

but Op wasn’t visiting your inlaws but her own ‘judgy’ inlaws

personally I wouldn’t tolerate a filthy car on my own driveway
besides which, the washed/unwashed car is a metaphor

notspringingback · Today 11:21

As ever, these posts are typically not about the specific event but a broader relationship issue.

My DP would be really upset with me if I took our car through the car wash because it damages the paint. I wouldn’t do it because I know it’d upset him. However, he doesn’t suck the joy out of my life, he’s a great partner and Dad. He makes very few demands, this is one of them so I respect that.

it sounds like you are, quite reasonably, very unhappy in your relationship. The car is just the straw that broke the camels back.

PeasOff · Today 11:27

Are people seriously putting even a fraction of the blame for an adult’s reaction on a 6YO child for innocently mentioning going through a car wash?! Why should a child that young have to think about hiding something so trivial in the first place?! 🤦🏼‍♀️

VioletsTale · Today 11:35

PeasOff · Today 11:27

Are people seriously putting even a fraction of the blame for an adult’s reaction on a 6YO child for innocently mentioning going through a car wash?! Why should a child that young have to think about hiding something so trivial in the first place?! 🤦🏼‍♀️

Bonkers , isn’t it? Everyone else, including a small child MUST manage their own behaviours and words, but god forbid the same was expected from a grown ass adult. The bar is so low sometimes, ants can merrily skip over it.

BackJustToSay · Today 11:35

likelysuspect · Today 09:57

Well exactly this. If it was the other way round, it would be full of 'he doesnt respect you', 'why dont your views count', 'he's just overridden your wishes'.

I really doubt this - MN posters frequently point out these kind of rules are controlling. And he didn't keep to his end of the bargain - washing their shared car if he didn't want it mechanically washed - so he didn't leave her with any choice. You can control how you do things - refusing to do them but then controlling how other people do them is just controlling, it's not about respect.

How about he treats their marriage with the same respect and doesn't trash it with this behaviour? What does it say about how he feels about her that he is more careful with the car than their marriage?

Cadeaukatze · Today 11:38

So he thinks he asked you not to do one thing.

But you also asked him to do one thing - to wash it himself and he didn't.

Why do you have to do what he says but he doesn't do what you ask?

ND or not, he's being the usual sexist arse - wifey has to do what he says, I'd tell him to sod off.

BackJustToSay · Today 11:41

ScaramoucheCanYouDoTheFandango · Today 10:58

I can’t find the bit where the OP said there was a safety issue with seeing out (thought I’d missed it) because as far as I can see she didn’t.

OP knew it would damage the paintwork because he told her and she went ahead knowing the other car owner would not consent to it. That is wrong. His over reaction does not erase her action.

He is allowed to be upset she damaged the paintwork on their car when asked not to, but the extreme reaction is OTT, not acceptable, and she needs to look at if this is a pattern, and if it is a relationship she wants to continue.

He didn't see any damage on the paintwork. He only knew because their kid mentioned it. So no, she didn't.

I am a massive perfectionist and my eye falls upon any slight defect/colour change/lack of straightness and I sometimes take my car through a wash and I have never seen any difference at all even when scouring for one. Over time with repeated use perhaps it can be damaging, but not as a one off. I'd bet money a PP's swirls were caused by hand washing with an unsuitable cloth - there's not even anything in a drive through wash that moves in a swirling fashion, they spin which would leave straight lines.

Awkwardisfunny · Today 11:49

PrincessFairyWren · Today 08:54

Sounds tough. As you have identified he is very rigid in his thinking. It can also be hard for some ND people to "back down" after a disagreement. Is there a pattern of you always being the one to apologise and smooth things over?
Do you even want to stay together.

This. It's exhausting. I don't recommend relationships with these people. It's like quiet mental abuse over time. Permanent gaslighting and undermining. I know they struggle to change but that's not your problem and you don't have to put up with it out of pity.

StickyToffeePuddingAndIceCream321 · Today 11:49

My husband would never use a car wash he says the same and would be pretty pissed off if I took ours to one (it's several years old too), a new car he would go mad (he isn't generally angry, he's just from a family of car lovers and it's a big no no, his dad cleans his alloys with a toothbrush, granted my husband doesn't go that far!).

Your husband being autistic has notjing to do with anything, why must you add that? If he's behaving like a twat it's because he's a twat, not because he was handed a label recently. It should not be used to excuse twattish immature behaviour.

SoVeryVeryBored · Today 11:50

likelysuspect · Today 09:57

Well exactly this. If it was the other way round, it would be full of 'he doesnt respect you', 'why dont your views count', 'he's just overridden your wishes'.

But he didn’t hold up his end of the bargain, he pro is Ed to wash the car and hasn’t done so for literally months. So @Brownhotwaterbottle took care of it- he can’t have it both ways.

@Brownhotwaterbottle , he may be nd but that’s not n excuse to be abusive and controlling, which the silent treatment and threats to leave are. If you don’t want to break up (I would) then honest conversation then grey rock. Miniseries the impact on you an the kids.