Using AI to remove school photo watermarks

Intrigued as to how you think it's not the same? In fact morrisons is a massive business which has insurance against theft. The photographer you're stealing off is probably a sole trader.

If you're paying a mate with a special screwdriver to come with you to a little boutique shop and jimmy the security tag off of a scarf the owner has made so you can take it without paying - presume you'd think that's theft?

I think it’s skanky behaviour.

AI might be removing watermarks, but I am certain it is also making other changes to the pic you might not notice at first.
A friend of mine run a pic of her dog through AI to "tidy" it up.
It added extra toes.

How do my kids learn to be scummy fuckers from this? Lmao, did you think my kids sit there and watch the magnets/photos be made from someone in a dark room in a basement where it's all a big secret to save £60?

Behave yourself

Most parents post their kids online, most of whom do not restrict to friends and family. Even if they did, friends and family can save copy past repost as they see fit. Overwhelmingly most parents give permission for their kids to be posted on school social media which is public. Ai has access to the entire internet not just images people upload to ai. This is where you are quite ignorant (and silly). Therefore unless you strictly enforce an entire ban on your child’s image being online you will always be vulnerable to some ai taking that image and using it for whatever it is instructed to do.
Im fully aware of what ai can do with images of children. But im not going to stop sharing family pics as a result of it. Quite clearly the majority of other parents aren’t either.

I'm not stealing from anyone, I never asked them to do it?

Maybe you explain in words that my chavvy skanky self will understand

If people keep doing this, it will end with a return to the format of pre-digital days when you only got given a set of prints. "This is why we can't have nice things ..."

A whole chicken?!
Could feed a family for a week that…

"I never asked them to do it" - you never asked who to do what?

If they weren't so ridiculously overpriced I'd have more sympathy for the photographers.

Are you ok?

Read the thread you've been replying too?

What is confusing you ? I can help but I'm gonna need context.. Unless your being weird and completely understand that I didn't ask the school to ask the photographer to take a photo of my child and send me a bill if I want a copy?

I could be missing something here so it's my bad if so. But I think I've made it clear I paid for photos for multiple years, realised I didn't have too anymore and then took the route that made my kids get the same result but saved me money

Don’t thieve other peoples’ work.
If you don’t like paying for school photos, take your own.

Yeah I'm great at reading thanks 😂
Just still trying to wrap my head around why you don't think it's stealing.
Now I see you are saying you never asked them to take a photo.

Imagine this

You go to a clothes shop. A shop assistant hands you a pretty scarf and says, try this on. You take it over to the mirror, try it on, decide you want it, and you and your friend break the security tag off it and put it in your handbag and you leave with it.

or

You go to Tesco. A lady is giving out little mini samples of baileys. She offers you one and you sip it. You and your friend go over to the aisle and grab a bottle of baileys, break the security tag off it, and put it in your bag.

You "never asked" to try on the scarf or to sample the drink. But it's obvious that if you wanted to keep it you'd have to pay. And you decided not to pay. That's stealing. I can send more examples if you need but I think it'll get boring for everyone else on the thread given that everyone else seems to understand why it's stealing.

Etc

A mum in one of my kids' classes said she did this on the group WhatsApp. I really, really don't want my kids' faces put through AI.

It's also blatant theft.

Most parents don’t post their children online, not in my experience.

Parents are definitely pulling back from their children’s photos being used on school websites, social media and the like. A decade ago you would have probably one in a class whose photo you either couldn’t take at all or you couldn’t use for anything outside of the classroom. Now I’d say it’s about half. People are far more aware than they used to be.

You obviously have reading comprehension issues so I shouldn't be surprised that your response is as poorly formed as it is.

My first post literally says do not post your kids online on public accounts. You really shouldn't full stop either.

I actually work in AI and am trying to warn people because I know where this is going. If you dont want to listen to me knock yourself out, I am not trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. But your kids will highly likely end up in CSA imagery (yes, I've seen the terrifying stats for this) so dont be surprised when it happens, and they will be able to blame you because it will be your fault for letting it happen.

Another indicator of your inability to think critically is your misconception that because lots of people do something it is morally ethical or acceptable. Lots of people used to beat their children with belts, doesn't make it okay.

Anyway, i won't respond again because you are not worth the effort. I just hope a normal person sees what I've written and takes some food for thought.

@Arabelllllllla I would add to your points that I'm not sure "most people" post pictures of their kids online. I know some people who do with no apparent restrictions, some who do only to a limited network (sorry, I don't know the proper name, but eg insta stories for a list with say 10 close friends/ family only) and some who don't at all.

But tbf lots of my friends work in either law or social/healthcare so maybe we're more careful than the general population?

None of that makes sense because I wouldn't allow the sample or the scarf but, I honestly don't think those things ever happen anyway

I've never walked into a shop and had something placed over me, nor have I ever walked into a Tesco and been asked to sample baileys lmao

If I walked into a tesco and they said, here here, have baileys, ok ok you tried it so no go pay £22 for it, eh you can keep the bottle but thank you

I walk into matalan, I love matalan, they put a scarf round my neck and say hey you've tried it, go pay now, you need it, - no thanks, my friend makes scarfs and the quality is much better and can provide a better scarf but thanks for the inspo.

Does this help?

If someone forced a baileys shot on me and I happened to enjoy it, I'm still not obliged to buy it from them

If I liked a scarf someone put round my neck - I'm still ok to go buy it somewhere else

It becomes a part of their experience of how to behave, like everything you do. I was on a school trip once and a child finished her crisps and there the packet on the ground. When I told her to put it in the bin or back in her lunchbox she had absolutely no idea whatsoever that you just didn’t throw rubbish on the ground because nobody had ever told her. Children learn how to behave and get their values from watching the adults around them,

They know they had their photo taken at school. They know that a week later when the teacher had a pile of photos to give out at home time that they (like most children) didn’t have a photo because their grown ups didn’t pay for a photo.

But they can see their school photo is then in their house.

It's really thick to assume because mum can't afford £60 on photos that my kid throws litter on the ground, but okay ma'am

That’s not what I’m saying.

Your saying because all the other kids in the class are getting their photos dropped off at school, that my kids will notice the difference?

Idk I saw earlier on you have 28 kids in your class, and my kids have 3 classes per year year R, 1, 2 - infants + nursery

Juniors 3, 4, 5, 6 - 60 kids per class

Senior school - well, there's over 1k in that school so wont bother to guess

You think 600+ kids, each parent, in the south east, can afford to buy multiple photos?

I did that for years, my kids haven't noticed since i stopped doing it - they do look for the new ones at home eventually though!

Same with my circle of friends. And so im happy to hear it is not normal for you either, gives me hope!

I totally understand why most people were doing it a few years back, innocently because they probably didn't understand the consequences of such an action. We are armed with much better knowledge now and there isnt an excuse for it really.