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Are we being unreasonable not to buy my sister's stepdaughter a car and insurance

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SheLovesThat · Yesterday 18:20

My sister has 2 sons who have both passed their driving test in the last few years. My mum bought them both a car each and I paid for their first year of insurance.

My sister also has a step daughter who has just passed her test. My mum and I both sent a congratulations card with £100 in but my sister was surprised that we are not doing the same for her step daughter as we have with her sons and is now giving us the silent treatment.

The girl has been my sisters step daughter since she was 7and is now 18. She lives with her mum half of the time so we don’t see as much of her. My sister said we should treat her the same.

My mum spent about £12000 each on the cars. The insurance has cost me about £2000 each so not small amounts of money and I’m shocked my sister would expect the same for her step daughter.

Are we being unreasonable?

OP posts:
chirrupybird · Yesterday 20:28

shuggles · Yesterday 20:22

@SheLovesThat It is very unusual, strange, and weird for mummy and daddy to buy a car for their child. It infantilises young adults and makes them look like babies.

The normal thing that normal teens and young adults do is use their part time jobs to save up for a car.

Parents can do what they want, if the child needs a car to get to their job why not get them one if you can afford to? Not a hugely expensive car but a good roadworthy one. If they want better then they can buy their own.

How do you ever save up enough money to buy a car on a minimum wage part time job as a teenager?

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:26

shuggles · Yesterday 20:22

@SheLovesThat It is very unusual, strange, and weird for mummy and daddy to buy a car for their child. It infantilises young adults and makes them look like babies.

The normal thing that normal teens and young adults do is use their part time jobs to save up for a car.

😂 I’ll send them all down pit at once.

It’s not unusual at all. Babies don’t drive cars, silly.

All of the kids have had part time jobs from 17/18 whilst studying. My oldest child and nephews are now in full time work paying for themselves.

You sound very silly.

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Fasthorses · Yesterday 20:23

rubyslippers · Yesterday 18:23

Why are you doing it for the nephews?! Are you all very well off
anwyay yes, I’d be really surprised that all the children aren’t treated the same (in big and small ways)
how must the SD feel?
step families : blended families are full of pitfalls such as this where expectations are not matched

Surely the stepdaughter has her own grandparents /extended family?

I hate this narrative we must all just accept step relatives and treat them the same as blood relatives - they simply aren't the same and people can't be forced to feel the same for them.

shuggles · Yesterday 20:22

@SheLovesThat It is very unusual, strange, and weird for mummy and daddy to buy a car for their child. It infantilises young adults and makes them look like babies.

The normal thing that normal teens and young adults do is use their part time jobs to save up for a car.

Yogabearmous · Yesterday 20:21

InterIgnis · Yesterday 19:24

You’ve literally spent thousands on your nephews/grandchildren, and given a generous gift to your sister’s stepchild, and yet you’re still being called ‘tight’. Laughable.

Your sister is entirely in the wrong here. She had no business making the assumptions she did. Let her sulk. YANBU.

This.
the entitlement is outrageous. Perhaps the step daughter’s other extended family on her mother’s side could buy her a car. It’s not for you to fund this. What a cheek.

chirrupybird · Yesterday 20:20

rubyslippers · Yesterday 18:23

Why are you doing it for the nephews?! Are you all very well off
anwyay yes, I’d be really surprised that all the children aren’t treated the same (in big and small ways)
how must the SD feel?
step families : blended families are full of pitfalls such as this where expectations are not matched

Step daughter has another parent who should step up for at least half.

FoldItIn · Yesterday 20:17

pinkpedi · Yesterday 20:00

I think you've been really mean and considering this girl has been a part of your family for most of her life I can't imagine how shit this has made her feel. Talk about making it clear she's an outsider.
Does her father/grandparents contribute to her living expenses equally? I'd understand more if they did but if you are her sole family that's awful.
Either way, £100 is extremely tight. I'm not surprised your sister is upset. You should have considered her right from the beginning when you did this to the first sibling.
I bet Christmas and birthdays are awful for her too.

Normal people, people who raise children in a blended family like they are children in a blended family, will raise kids who don't feel any of the dramatic nonsense you have typed.
None of the frantic, all children are the exact same bullshit. They aren't.
The stepdaughter has her own family on her mother's side. Why on earth are you talking about her father's side? He lives with the op's sister!

If she has been raised in an emotionally stable household,she will not have a problem with this.

It is always entitled adults that cause problems, not the kids.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:14

Ponoka7 · Yesterday 20:09

You haven't answered if your Mum is wealthy. Seeing as she could afford private school for two, she is being mean. You and her are two seperate people. I can see why your sister is upset at your Mum. You haven't answered if she calls your Mum, Nan. Your Mum needs to talk to your sister. But that's nothing to do with you. You seem to see you and your Mum as one.

My mum used to be wealthier 10+ years ago but she had to give up work due to illness. She isn’t poor though. Private school was only for primary as the boys went to a grammar school so no fees.

She calls my mum by her first name, not nan.she has her own GPs.

i don’t see us as one, but my sister is giving us both the silent treatment.

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Theunamedcat · Yesterday 20:11

Boreded · Yesterday 19:51

Relevance?

Why would you spent 14k on a child that can vanish overnight?

Ponoka7 · Yesterday 20:09

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:49

Birthdays and Christmas, we buy them all something for roughly the same amount.

Until the boys went to uni, my mum and I also put money away for them as part of their birthday and Christmas which was to pay for uni. We didn’t do that for my sisters step daughter but she wasn’t aware. She had the same value of gifts to open.

No, my sister has never behaved like this before but this is the first big thing to come up. My mum thinks she’ll have been expecting the money for uni next year for her step daughter and it’s probably dawned on her that won’t be happening.

You haven't answered if your Mum is wealthy. Seeing as she could afford private school for two, she is being mean. You and her are two seperate people. I can see why your sister is upset at your Mum. You haven't answered if she calls your Mum, Nan. Your Mum needs to talk to your sister. But that's nothing to do with you. You seem to see you and your Mum as one.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:08

ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 20:04

But you're not thinking about the girl. For over 10 years she's been thinking that you ARE treating her the same, because you said yourself that you've been keeping the university fees secret from her. So it must have come as an awful blow when she compared what she got from you compared to what her step-brothers got. With no warning. I feel sorry for her.

Just to be clear, the step daughter has not mentioned any unhappiness. She went out with my daughter and friends last night and was at our house for hours getting ready before they went. She was her happy normal self with our kids and us. This is only coming from my sister. Her step daughter is lovely and I don’t think there was any expectation from her at all.

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Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 20:06

gamerchick · Yesterday 18:43

While I think all kids in blended families should be treated like they're family. Your sister is a cheeky fucker for her expectations and taking her family for granted. Stepdaughter has a mother and a whole side of the family nephews don't. There has to be a give and take sometimes.

Exactly! I'm usually on the side of making sure blended children feel loved and included, but your sister is expecting too much here @SheLovesThat .

InterIgnis · Yesterday 20:06

independentfriend · Yesterday 20:01

Hindsight says you should have told your sister you weren't in a positive to do the same for her stepdaughter long before your sister and the young woman might have been planning on you doing the same for her.

Does the 18 year old need a car at the minute? If she's say at college with good public transport she maybe doesn't need one right now. (Or the ongoing maintenance/petrol/insurance costs) Are your nephews going to end up helping her out financially to buy one? Can you offer her a loan?

The onus was on the sister to ask, rather than to assume that OP and her mother would do the same for her stepchild.

Why would her nephews and/or OP be involved in that at all? That’s for her parents and possibly also her stepmother to figure out.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:05

Ubugly · Yesterday 19:50

Do the step daughters grandparents give there step grand children exactly the same as she gets?

I agree with you, I woild never expect my sons step mum's parents to buy him a bloody car! Wouldn't even cross my mind even if they bought his step sister a brand new Bentley!

Good point. Her grandparents who are my nephews step grandparents don’t buy my nephews gifts to the same value as they buy for their own GD. They have also taken her on holiday without my nephews. We have taken her on holidays with my nephews.

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ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 20:04

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:59

Because I wouldn’t for a second think my sister would be so entitled to think we would be when she has her own grandparents and aunts to do what my mum and me have been doing.

But you're not thinking about the girl. For over 10 years she's been thinking that you ARE treating her the same, because you said yourself that you've been keeping the university fees secret from her. So it must have come as an awful blow when she compared what she got from you compared to what her step-brothers got. With no warning. I feel sorry for her.

C152 · Yesterday 20:03

This child has been in your sister's life since the girl was 7. That's 11 years. I can see why your sister feels they should be treated the same. But, you said the girl's mum earns a lot more than your sister so, in this case, I think it's up to her mum to buy her a car. If she had no other family, I think it would be awful not to treat her the same as your nephews but here, she's surely going to be treated to something from her mum? (Maybe not a car. Maybe there's a reason her mum hasn't offered to buy her one? If it's become a problem, it's really something for your sister's husband to discuss with her ex. She should back right out of it.)

independentfriend · Yesterday 20:01

Hindsight says you should have told your sister you weren't in a positive to do the same for her stepdaughter long before your sister and the young woman might have been planning on you doing the same for her.

Does the 18 year old need a car at the minute? If she's say at college with good public transport she maybe doesn't need one right now. (Or the ongoing maintenance/petrol/insurance costs) Are your nephews going to end up helping her out financially to buy one? Can you offer her a loan?

pinkpedi · Yesterday 20:00

I think you've been really mean and considering this girl has been a part of your family for most of her life I can't imagine how shit this has made her feel. Talk about making it clear she's an outsider.
Does her father/grandparents contribute to her living expenses equally? I'd understand more if they did but if you are her sole family that's awful.
Either way, £100 is extremely tight. I'm not surprised your sister is upset. You should have considered her right from the beginning when you did this to the first sibling.
I bet Christmas and birthdays are awful for her too.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:59

ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 19:57

But why, at any point over the last 11 years, did you not have a conversation with your sister to say that you weren't saving for her step-daughter and that she wouldn't be getting large presents from you? If you've been attempting to make the girl think she's been getting equal-value presents all this time, it should have been made clear,at least to your sister, that this wasn't actually the case! I don't disagree with not spending thousands on her, but I do disagree with not making it clear from the start.

Because I wouldn’t for a second think my sister would be so entitled to think we would be when she has her own grandparents and aunts to do what my mum and me have been doing.

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Spidey66 · Yesterday 19:58

Tbh I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. The stepdaughter also has her mum’s family.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:57

Boreded · Yesterday 19:51

Relevance?

How many step children should we do this for that may never be seen again if my sister decides to split up with their dad?

My mum paid for my nephews to go to private school when their step brother was in the picture. Imagine if she’d have paid for the step son to treat him the same. What would have happened to his schooling when we were told we wouldn’t be seeing him anymore?

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ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 19:57

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:49

Birthdays and Christmas, we buy them all something for roughly the same amount.

Until the boys went to uni, my mum and I also put money away for them as part of their birthday and Christmas which was to pay for uni. We didn’t do that for my sisters step daughter but she wasn’t aware. She had the same value of gifts to open.

No, my sister has never behaved like this before but this is the first big thing to come up. My mum thinks she’ll have been expecting the money for uni next year for her step daughter and it’s probably dawned on her that won’t be happening.

But why, at any point over the last 11 years, did you not have a conversation with your sister to say that you weren't saving for her step-daughter and that she wouldn't be getting large presents from you? If you've been attempting to make the girl think she's been getting equal-value presents all this time, it should have been made clear,at least to your sister, that this wasn't actually the case! I don't disagree with not spending thousands on her, but I do disagree with not making it clear from the start.

Boreded · Yesterday 19:51

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:32

My nephews were told their previous step brother was their brother, yet he disappeared from their life and they never even got to say goodbye.

Relevance?

Ubugly · Yesterday 19:50

Do the step daughters grandparents give there step grand children exactly the same as she gets?

I agree with you, I woild never expect my sons step mum's parents to buy him a bloody car! Wouldn't even cross my mind even if they bought his step sister a brand new Bentley!

saraclara · Yesterday 19:49

babyproblems · Yesterday 19:40

I think the children should be treated the same. The SD will remember she isn’t considered ‘part of your family’

There's part of the family and part of the family.

The girl sees a lot less of OP and OP 's mother, than OP 's nephews do. She is presumably treated well when she's with OP and her step-GM, and joins in family events when they're during her dad's time. But a relationship like this is really unlike the relationship between a grandparent and grandchild. Expecting a grandmother to spend £12k on a child that they see infrequently is entirely unreasonable.

OP 'sister presumably spends 50% of her time with her SD, so has formed a secure relationship with her. But the grandmother, however kind, will not have had all that time to reach a relationship that is similar to the one she has with her Grandsons who she sees more often .

Yes the GM should include the girl in family events, but she does not have to spend that amount of money on her.

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