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Single dad looking for advice about birthday party issue.

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tomWh · Yesterday 13:39

Hello

I am a single dad with a 6 (almost 7) year-old daughter, and I am currently organizing her birthday party, a traditional party with a bouncy castle, inflatables etc.

The plan was for a whole class party, but I am very worried about one little boy who has autism. It sounds harsh, but he ruins every child's birthday he gets invited to the latest one was only a few weeks ago. He caused chaos and, honestly, the day was spoiled as he ended up upsetting a lot of the other children. He screamed around the whole place, demanding the music be stopped as he couldn't cope with it. He threw toys at people (breaking some of them), he hit other children and had a massive meltdown when the cake started to be cut as he wanted it to be whole, and when given a slice of cake, he proceeded to launch it across the room whilst also kicking one of the food tables, sending some of it flying

The parents of the birthday boy were understandably annoyed that the day was being ruined and the mother of the boy causing the issues doesn't deal with it very well. .Now to be fair, I can't imagine how difficult her daily life is dealing with this behavior, but she just has the belief that, as he has autism, we should be accepting of his issues and let it be, and she is very vocal that he should never be left out of something simply because he has auitms she will try and gently ask him to stop the behavior and when things get really bad she will try and hold him in one place for a moment, but that's pretty much it

Now I agree it is awful for the little boy, but he has been extremely violent towards my daughter on several occasions and I can't see the point of spending all this money on a birthday party just for him to have a chance to spoil yet another party, but I also don't think its fair not to throw my daughter a party because of one child now I will be printing off the invitations today ready to handed out on Monday and I don't what to do as excluding him seems cruel, but I don't see him behaving at my daughter's party any different than he has all the others, and I'm dreading another party full of injured crying and scared kids.

What would you do? Any advice on approaching the mum would also be appreciated, but I would say she's not all that open about discussing her son and just believes he should be at everything no matter the chaos it causes.

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Moonnstarz · Yesterday 17:19

Personally I would have worded it differently to explain you are hosting your DDs party and as her son struggled so much at the last party ask which parts are suitable for him or whether they could be modified (no music maybe for the first 30 mins) or whether he would like to sit it out.
It sounds difficult as she is going to be more than aware her child isn't confirming but this isn't the case of a naughty child. The school also have to gather evidence before they can look at getting a EHCP and funding for a TA for him which can be a long process.

MissIonX · Yesterday 17:18

GoodkneeBadKnee · Yesterday 17:13

If the mother knows her son doesn't cope well at parties, then she shouldn't take him. So this situation IS about the mother he has. Also, this boy is being excluded because of his BEHAVIOUR, not because of his DISABILITY.

The behaviour is BECAUSE of his disability. Some autistic children literally have no control in the moment they get overwhelmed.

I can say it's taken me years to recognise my all the triggers my son has, and watch his micro-mannerisms to tell how things are likely going to go with a situation. None of which was due to poor parenting. I am very happy to say that for the most part now he manages situations and mainstream schooling very well, that wasn't always the case.

Behaviour is communication for some autistic children. I think there was a kinder middle ground to invite him since it's a whole class party but make the mum clear his previous behaviour has been upsetting and if he gets overwhelmed it is expected she remove him, or if she feels that's not something he would cope with, don't bring him. Or have a smaller party.

Gloriia · Yesterday 17:16

Valpolichella · Yesterday 17:12

Talk to the school about not inviting a violent child to a private birthday party? Why? It’s nothing to do with the school, they don’t get to decide who is invited, or not, to a private event. Don’t teachers already have enough to manage?

No hun. Don't talk to the school about party invites. Talk to school about alleged violent behaviour.

Thank God in our day kids either got invited or didn't. Parents didn't take it upon themselves to message parents about how badly their dc behaved.

hewasflirtingwithbeverleymacca · Yesterday 17:16

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:15

If your child is regularly violent to others and ruins birthday parties and you don't voluntarily remove them - you're a shit parent. And you're setting your children up for a very lonely life because no-one else is going to put up with it and once they get big enough - they'll start finding out that people hit back.

👏👏👏

Longtimelurker1980 · Yesterday 17:15

GreenSlippers44 · Yesterday 13:58

This is the best advice IMO.

Agreed, this is brilliant advice.

dreamingofgoodhair · Yesterday 17:15

Daria32 · Yesterday 13:43

You can’t exclude one child from a whole class party. Either invite him or just invite the girls

You can if he’s violent , badly behaved and unable to cope due to his autism.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:15

MissIonX · Yesterday 17:09

Absolute cactus behaviour.

It's nothing to do with "the mother he has". You are excluding a child on the basis of a DISABILITY! You could have asked the mum to remove him if he got overwhelmed via a call or discussion.

I'm glad in our school at least if you're not doing a class party and everyone is included, children are not permitted to hand out invitations during the school day.

And I say that as the mother of two children, one NT and one ND. You should walk a mile in our shoes before being so judgemental

If your child is regularly violent to others and ruins birthday parties and you don't voluntarily remove them - you're a shit parent. And you're setting your children up for a very lonely life because no-one else is going to put up with it and once they get big enough - they'll start finding out that people hit back.

hewasflirtingwithbeverleymacca · Yesterday 17:15

GoodkneeBadKnee · Yesterday 17:13

If the mother knows her son doesn't cope well at parties, then she shouldn't take him. So this situation IS about the mother he has. Also, this boy is being excluded because of his BEHAVIOUR, not because of his DISABILITY.

Well said!!👏

YankSplaining · Yesterday 17:14

Generally, I wouldn’t be okay with not inviting only one kid in the whole class, but in this specific circumstance – class of 20, don’t want to leave out boys because daughter’s close friend is a boy, uninvited boy has a history of actual violence at parties – I think you’ve done as well as can be expected with a bad situation. I think texting his mother as opposed to calling her was a good idea too. This way, there’s a record of what exactly you said to her if she gets upset and misrepresents to other people what you said, and it allows her to have a private reaction to the news that her son isn’t invited.

hewasflirtingwithbeverleymacca · Yesterday 17:14

Naddd · Yesterday 17:12

Why? Why do all the other kids have to miss out cos of this one child?
I find it bemusing that you and others think this is fair.
Unfortunately there are things that sn children aren't able to partake in You can't just exclude others who can to keep it fair.

Too right!!

godmum56 · Yesterday 17:13

SockPlant · Yesterday 13:52

Call the mum. Explain that he can come if she is on him like glue and at the first sign of anything you will ask them both to leave.

Be firm. Tell her the last party was ruined and you don't want that for your DDs party, but that you also want to give him a chance to learn how to behave in social situations. Be kind. Be clear. Be very firm.

I'd talk to the Mum but say something slightly different. I'd say that you are aware that the party will not be something that her child can cope with and last time you were well aware that it was very distressing for him and for others so for this reason he is not being invited. I don't think its fair to your child to be otherwise and the mother will know why her child is not invited.

GoodkneeBadKnee · Yesterday 17:13

MissIonX · Yesterday 17:09

Absolute cactus behaviour.

It's nothing to do with "the mother he has". You are excluding a child on the basis of a DISABILITY! You could have asked the mum to remove him if he got overwhelmed via a call or discussion.

I'm glad in our school at least if you're not doing a class party and everyone is included, children are not permitted to hand out invitations during the school day.

And I say that as the mother of two children, one NT and one ND. You should walk a mile in our shoes before being so judgemental

If the mother knows her son doesn't cope well at parties, then she shouldn't take him. So this situation IS about the mother he has. Also, this boy is being excluded because of his BEHAVIOUR, not because of his DISABILITY.

Valpolichella · Yesterday 17:12

Gloriia · Yesterday 17:00

I haven't at any point said anyone's feelings trump anyone else's. No I'm not triggered nor angry.

What I have said is parents should not go messaging others parents telling them why their dc is not invited. How inappropriate, even offering cake as a consolation prize. Just no.

Don't invite him fine but talk to the school about alleged violence not the parent.

Talk to the school about not inviting a violent child to a private birthday party? Why? It’s nothing to do with the school, they don’t get to decide who is invited, or not, to a private event. Don’t teachers already have enough to manage?

Naddd · Yesterday 17:12

LittleMi55Nobody · Yesterday 16:50

this

Why? Why do all the other kids have to miss out cos of this one child?
I find it bemusing that you and others think this is fair.
Unfortunately there are things that sn children aren't able to partake in You can't just exclude others who can to keep it fair.

BerryTwister · Yesterday 17:12

ChocolateCinderToffee · Yesterday 16:53

Can you invite him round for a special birthday tea beforehand and explain to his mother that you understand he would find a big party difficult?

@ChocolateCinderToffee I don’t think it’s a very good lesson to teach kids that they should give special treatment to people who hit them.

Mere1 · Yesterday 17:11

SockPlant · Yesterday 13:52

Call the mum. Explain that he can come if she is on him like glue and at the first sign of anything you will ask them both to leave.

Be firm. Tell her the last party was ruined and you don't want that for your DDs party, but that you also want to give him a chance to learn how to behave in social situations. Be kind. Be clear. Be very firm.

Very good idea.

Mumofoneandone · Yesterday 17:10

Well done you for not including this child. You are excluding him because of his behaviour, not his autism (as you've invited another child with autism, who doesn't behave in the same way). Offering a party bag and cake is absolutely the right gesture.
The class of children have to cope with him enough in school. His mother should accept he can't cope with a party environment and not take him rather than expecting everyone else's day to be ruined. Whilst she may not want him to miss out on things, she has to accept he has to because he can't cope!
My son doesn't have any diagnosis but doesn't cope with certain environments. Noisy parties are a big no, so we just don't take him. He doesn't become disregulated, just miserable.

MissIonX · Yesterday 17:09

tomWh · Yesterday 16:01

I will gladly be an arsehole if it means my kid gets a birthday party free of violence and gets to enjoy herself on her special day, it's not the boys fault he has the mother that he does, there will be a little girl with autism at thr party because she has a mum who parents her and doesn't hide behind autism as an excuse for violent and bad behaviour.

Absolute cactus behaviour.

It's nothing to do with "the mother he has". You are excluding a child on the basis of a DISABILITY! You could have asked the mum to remove him if he got overwhelmed via a call or discussion.

I'm glad in our school at least if you're not doing a class party and everyone is included, children are not permitted to hand out invitations during the school day.

And I say that as the mother of two children, one NT and one ND. You should walk a mile in our shoes before being so judgemental

Foxyviolet · Yesterday 17:07

You have done the right thing.

Your little girl has the right to a lovely birthday party with all of her friends and you don't need the extra stress.

No one has the right to be invited to a party.

If the mum isn't happy then she needs to ask herself how she would feel if it was her child being hit, hurt and having their party ruined.

I hope you all have a lovely time.

hewasflirtingwithbeverleymacca · Yesterday 17:06

ThorsRaven · Yesterday 17:04

Oh for goodness sake!

He said he was going to speak to her and then the other posters on here encouraged him to message so he has evidence of what he actually said in case the mum kicks off and starts making claims.

It seems the poor bloke can't do right whatever he does - in this thread he's been attacked for stating he's a dad; accused of wanting praise for organising a party; insulted; been called a coward; and more...

All because he's worried about a violent child assaulting his daughter at her own birthday party, while being compassionate towards the violent child because he has SEN and a enabling mother.

Here here!

Naddd · Yesterday 17:06

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Why should he have to invite a child who is violent to his daughter? Just because he is sn?
The op is in the right if a child was violent to mine sn or not damn right they would not be coming to a party.

hewasflirtingwithbeverleymacca · Yesterday 17:04

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Vile comment! You’ve completely taken OP’s comment deliberately out of context. The little boy DOES go around hurting other children. The OP has already said what he’s like at school as all the other parents have complained and the school are saying that they are sorting it. The OP does NOT have an issue with him being ND it’s his behaviour that is the an issue. And his mother who obviously has the same attitude as you, is doing nothing to address the issue! And the OP isn’t asking others to back him up, he is asking for opinions on a very awkward situation. If you bothered to read the OP’s first post then you’d see how sensitive he is being to the child. And how dare you use shocking language to the OP like that! Absolutely no need!!! You need to apologise to him!

ThorsRaven · Yesterday 17:04

AgnesMcDoo · Yesterday 16:06

you didn’t even have the guts to speak to the parent before you sent that awful email

Oh for goodness sake!

He said he was going to speak to her and then the other posters on here encouraged him to message so he has evidence of what he actually said in case the mum kicks off and starts making claims.

It seems the poor bloke can't do right whatever he does - in this thread he's been attacked for stating he's a dad; accused of wanting praise for organising a party; insulted; been called a coward; and more...

All because he's worried about a violent child assaulting his daughter at her own birthday party, while being compassionate towards the violent child because he has SEN and a enabling mother.

OneHardyRobin · Yesterday 17:03

I would make a whatsapp group and message the parents of the children you want to invite. I don’t know anyone that hands out invites anymore.

You don’t have to invite him (I wouldn’t), but it would be mean to hand actual invitations to every kid but him.

Cailin66 · Yesterday 17:01

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She shouldn’t let her child go to events where he destroys all the other children’s enjoyment. Not only that he’s so violent he is hitting children and pulling their hair. His mother is at fault for subjecting other children to her uncontrollable child.

Having a disability doesn’t give you the right to spoil other children’s birthday parties.