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Single dad looking for advice about birthday party issue.

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tomWh · Yesterday 13:39

Hello

I am a single dad with a 6 (almost 7) year-old daughter, and I am currently organizing her birthday party, a traditional party with a bouncy castle, inflatables etc.

The plan was for a whole class party, but I am very worried about one little boy who has autism. It sounds harsh, but he ruins every child's birthday he gets invited to the latest one was only a few weeks ago. He caused chaos and, honestly, the day was spoiled as he ended up upsetting a lot of the other children. He screamed around the whole place, demanding the music be stopped as he couldn't cope with it. He threw toys at people (breaking some of them), he hit other children and had a massive meltdown when the cake started to be cut as he wanted it to be whole, and when given a slice of cake, he proceeded to launch it across the room whilst also kicking one of the food tables, sending some of it flying

The parents of the birthday boy were understandably annoyed that the day was being ruined and the mother of the boy causing the issues doesn't deal with it very well. .Now to be fair, I can't imagine how difficult her daily life is dealing with this behavior, but she just has the belief that, as he has autism, we should be accepting of his issues and let it be, and she is very vocal that he should never be left out of something simply because he has auitms she will try and gently ask him to stop the behavior and when things get really bad she will try and hold him in one place for a moment, but that's pretty much it

Now I agree it is awful for the little boy, but he has been extremely violent towards my daughter on several occasions and I can't see the point of spending all this money on a birthday party just for him to have a chance to spoil yet another party, but I also don't think its fair not to throw my daughter a party because of one child now I will be printing off the invitations today ready to handed out on Monday and I don't what to do as excluding him seems cruel, but I don't see him behaving at my daughter's party any different than he has all the others, and I'm dreading another party full of injured crying and scared kids.

What would you do? Any advice on approaching the mum would also be appreciated, but I would say she's not all that open about discussing her son and just believes he should be at everything no matter the chaos it causes.

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whyayepetal · Yesterday 14:21

OP, you say that this little boy has been “extremely violent to my daughter on several occasions”. Would you even consider inviting someone who had been extremely violent to you on several occasions to your birthday celebration?

This party is for your DD, and she needs to feel safe and happy at her own birthday party. It is great that you are trying to consider this little boy, but previous experience has shown you that his parent does not intervene when necessary, and that the result is an unhappy time for everyone else. As PP have said, meltdowns and overwhelm might be able to be managed, but the chance of this is vanishingly small if the child’s parent is not already making an attempt to do this.

I would be prioritising my DD in this situation.

Savvysix1984 · Yesterday 14:19

A responsible parent would not put their child into an environment where they were so dysregulated that they responded in the way you’ve explained.
i would either invite a smaller group or speak/ message the parent. as hard as it will be to be upfront with the parent I would say something like ‘Hi parent, we’re having a birthday party for X. There will be bouncy castle, music, party games etc. I was there at Y’s birthday last week and saw that Z was upset by quite a few of the things. I understand that his needs make these things difficult to manage, however this is my daughter’s party, and we won’t be turning off the music or doing Y. I want the day to be about her. So you might want to consider if this will be suitable for your son. if you do bring him, and he’s finding it difficult we would respectfully ask you to take him somewhere where he can regulate so that it does not disrupt the party’

tomWh · Yesterday 14:19

Mixed feelings on the issue I see, it's difficult no matter what decision i go with, if I'm honest I don't know how willing she would be to leave with him if his behaviour got out of hand as understandably she is desperate for him to not be left out so I will call her and explain why he isn't being invited and hopefully she will understand as the chaos from the last party is still quiet raw.

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ThatLoudCat · Yesterday 14:16

I would just not invite him. Why should all the other children, who would've otherwise been invited to a whole class party, miss out because of this one boy?

Justkeepsmilingx · Yesterday 14:15

i think you need to foremost think of your daughter - and she needs to know you have her interests first rather an thinking of someone else over her needs at an event for her (hope that makes sense).

I can see what people are saying about telling the parent they have to watch him - but I still think that you would spend the party worrying - and possibly other parents too that had children who were affected last time.

I would suggest maybe writing a note to the parent or texting them / speak in the playground - and say you just wanted to explain that you have seen he was not comfortable in the last party and did not want to put him in a situation that would make him uncomfortable or any other children attending. That you would love him to celebrate her birthday with a party bag and cake either a day before or after the party. And do do that - so he isn’t excluded from celebrating completely but not having the sensory overload of a soft play / bouncy castle / noisy party.

tomWh · Yesterday 14:14

SouthLondonMum22 · Yesterday 14:08

Is it a standard class of 30ish? If so then just invite half of the class. If it's a smaller class then it gets trickier but even then, I would absolutely not be inviting him to ruin the party.

It is a class of 20 but one little girl is extremely sick at the moment so only 19, the class all get on really great with no major issues apart from the obvious.

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Sussexserpents · Yesterday 14:14

tomWh · Yesterday 13:52

Not sure if the quote button is how I directly respond? I couldn't see a reply button, my daughter's best friend at school is a little boy so although a girls only party would solve the issue I know she would be sad.

My son went to a party where he was one of two boys invited. It was the girls in their class, her best friend who is a boy and then my son so her friend had one other boy along. Worked out fine so just so that. At 7 a lot of parties will invite half the class or so as things like trampoline or bowling becomes more popular and there is a limit on numbers

ControlYourDog · Yesterday 14:13

I would not invite the autistic boy. He may be sad and his mother might cause a fuss but your child's happiness is your priority at her birthday party. Put her first and let her have the party she wants with the people she wants.

No-one has the right to attend if they are going to disrupt it and cause hurt and upset, even if they are disabled. The boy may not be able to help it but his mother needs to deal with his behaviour and the consequencesof it, he is not your responsibility.

I have autism as does my son so I do understand how difficult it is from both sides. My son didn't want someone that was mean to him to be invited to his all class party. I did not want to exclude a child with SEN but one child is going to be upset whatever and better it was the disruptive child and not the birthday boy.

38woman · Yesterday 14:13

Hadenough32 · Yesterday 13:48

I disagree I'm a mother of an adopted child with some quite severe behavioural issues..I decline party invites. He doesn't cope it's that simple. I also don't think it's fair for one kid to ruin anything whatever their additional need is. Just don't invite him. Let the mum know if she asks that you think he doesn't cope. If my son asks why I've not taken him to parties I point out the way he has previously behaved at them. That's his learning curve. It should not be at the expense of the other kids.

Absolutely this. Others shouldn't miss out due to this boys behaviour either. Someone in my family used to do this too. It ruined every single event. Simply explain to his mother that he can't cope and therefore can't come to the party. End of.

Morecoffeeneedef · Yesterday 14:12

tomWh · Yesterday 13:52

Not sure if the quote button is how I directly respond? I couldn't see a reply button, my daughter's best friend at school is a little boy so although a girls only party would solve the issue I know she would be sad.

Then ask her to pick 10 of her friends and explain that there are limited spaces.

Morecoffeeneedef · Yesterday 14:10

PlumPlumb · Yesterday 13:55

Are you worried that being a single dad is going to change how this is perceived by the family of the child you don't want to invite?

If anything as a man you would probably get more leeway and be seen less negatively than a single mum deciding to do the same. Men seem to get more permission from society to not always 'be kind'.

Quite likely, but I thought OP was asking here because he couldn't discuss it with DD's mother.

SouthLondonMum22 · Yesterday 14:08

Is it a standard class of 30ish? If so then just invite half of the class. If it's a smaller class then it gets trickier but even then, I would absolutely not be inviting him to ruin the party.

MyFavouriteGame · Yesterday 14:08

Just invite her friends. Get her to choose. I’ve never done a whole class party.

WhatADilemma10 · Yesterday 14:05

I have an autistic child.

Would I invite him? No. Please remember that yes whilst being autistic can result in meltdowns and shutdowns, it does not excuse poor behaviour. The child's parent needs to be dealing with it promptly. If they have been seen dealing with the child, then I would invite. But ignoring it or giving a "he's autistic" excuse is poor. Ringing the mum isn't going to help either.

Has your daughter got friends outside of school so it isn't a whole class party?

Bananacrepewithnuts · Yesterday 14:05

TheJoyousHiker · Yesterday 13:58

Because leaving one child out is hurtful and not nice. Though the OP could write a note or phone the parent and be upfront and say that he noticed her boy became overwhelmed at another party recently and while he’s welcome to come along to this party, they might like to consider if it would be suitable as there will be loud noise at times, there will be a bouncy castle and music and you don’t want your daughter’s party to be upset and if he becomes overwhelmed, they will need to take him home immediately. Then you won’t have excluded anyone and will have been upfront and everyone knows where they stand.

I think this is a good call. Speak to the mum.

Come at it from an angle of you wouldn't want him to become distressed like he was at Anna's party.
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Jamas42 · Yesterday 14:04

We had similar last year at DSs birthday party and it was very difficult @tomWh!

We did invite the child and the mum turned up herself with the invited child plus an older sibling that we didn’t know he had who was also autistic. The mum was clearly extremely overwhelmed being in that situation as both boys really struggled and kept taking off in different directions. She must have approached me around 10 times over the course of a 2 hour party asking for various changes to me made for her boys - lock the fire doors and entrance, have someone stand guard at the toilet door, block of the access to the stage as her children kept wanting to go on it, not to sing happy birthday 🫠

I ended up feeling awful because a lot of the requests I obviously couldn’t accommodate! And then I felt guilty for even sending the invite - maybe she felt like she had to accept?!
When it came to her DSs birthday she threw a big and very very busy soft play party which was equally as chaotic.

As you said, I cannot imagine how difficult things must be for their family day to day, but if I’m honest, I won’t be inviting them again unless DS specifically requests it.

I would struggle with leaving one child out though. I would say half the class or less is acceptable.

Flumposie3 · Yesterday 14:04

Invite a mix of girls and boys. Say you can only have certain numbers. Do not invite the boy.

Bluebeast · Yesterday 14:02

I'd probably invite them but be prepared to pull the mum to the side at the party and ask them to leave if he started to kick off. You dont need to be rude, but you'd need to be firm.

"Cassie, would it be better for you to take Spencer home now? Hes just kicked Abbie and pulled Sam's top. I can see he is struggling with the music and chaos - but unfortunately it's souring the atmosphere for everyone. I've got a party bag here for Spencer to take."

If she starts to create a fuss, just say "with respect Cassie, I've got a house full of children - if you want to talk about this later, you can message me."

TheJoyousHiker · Yesterday 14:02

tomWh · Yesterday 13:59

Of course not, I simply mentioned that I am a single dad because I don't have a partner to discuss it with, mum isn't in her life so I can't ask her, I'm simply a parent looking for advice from other parents.

Well you’ve got good advice here, no-one is saying just invite him and to hell with the consequences. I hope your DD has a super party.

Hadenough32 · Yesterday 14:01

GreenSlippers44 · Yesterday 13:58

This is the best advice IMO.

Nah this advice of asking them to leave won't work and you'll still spend the party panicking. Imagine when the kid plays up and the mum pretends she doesn't see it and then you've got to ask her to leave. The kid will refuse to leave and the mum won't march him out. Will still be the same end result.

TheJoyousHiker · Yesterday 14:00

SockPlant · Yesterday 13:52

Call the mum. Explain that he can come if she is on him like glue and at the first sign of anything you will ask them both to leave.

Be firm. Tell her the last party was ruined and you don't want that for your DDs party, but that you also want to give him a chance to learn how to behave in social situations. Be kind. Be clear. Be very firm.

Didn’t see your message as I was typing mine. This exactly, upfront.

FayeLP · Yesterday 14:00

I have a child with autism and understand how hard it can be - mine heavily masks so is rarely an issue in these situations but has friends who experience dysregulation at parties etc.

If you want to address it head on, I would send a message to this effect:

‘I know parties can be overwhelming and chaotic - at the last party, I noticed he got really overwhelmed, which led to a difficult situation for him and the other kids enjoying the party. I want to make sure he feels safe and supported this time and that the party can go ahead as planned without significant disruption. Can we do something together to help him have a good time - would it help if we set up a quiet space or maybe had him come for just a specific part of the party?’

Completely understandable if you don’t want to make adjustments (if not, invite half the class or less so you’re not specifically leaving him out).

tomWh · Yesterday 13:59

PlumPlumb · Yesterday 13:55

Are you worried that being a single dad is going to change how this is perceived by the family of the child you don't want to invite?

If anything as a man you would probably get more leeway and be seen less negatively than a single mum deciding to do the same. Men seem to get more permission from society to not always 'be kind'.

Of course not, I simply mentioned that I am a single dad because I don't have a partner to discuss it with, mum isn't in her life so I can't ask her, I'm simply a parent looking for advice from other parents.

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MrsBatshitRatshit · Yesterday 13:59

You are overthinking this. If you don't want this child-or any child-at your daughter's party, you are not obliged to invite him.

Comeonbabylightmyaga · Yesterday 13:59

I wouldn’t invite him but I would explain to the mum before giving out the invitations that you have seen that he becomes overwhelmed so will do him a party bag instead.

I have a now adult dc with Asd and parties were a nightmare for all involved so we learned to either only stay for a short period or not go at all.