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AIBU to agree my sister’s friends may want child-free girls’ nights?

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WashingLineFine · Yesterday 12:10

My sister has a group of friends she met at university, they’re all in their late 30s now but take turns to host “girls night” where they go to each others houses, have a few drinks and watch a film.
whenever sister is hosting she asks me or my mum to have DN overnight.
A few weeks ago she was hosting and she hadn’t asked me to have DN so I asked if mum was having her, she said no she’s keeping her at home this time.
Day after she told me DN had had an amazing time showing off her dance routines to sisters friends. I asked if the friends minded her being there and she said no, they loved watching her. Thought it was a bit weird but whatever.
last week sister was hosting again and told me DN was really looking forward to it and had a load of new routines ready to show “the girls”. At this point I gently suggested that maybe her friends enjoy child free nights and would prefer no kids there and offered to have DN. This was rubbished so I left it.

This morning she messaged me asking if I’d said something to her friends because all of a sudden they’re complaining about DN being there. I asked what had actually been said and it was a group WhatsApp messsge basically saying if there’s weeks when a host can’t get a babysitter they should change the host for that week. They all agreed. DN wasn’t mentioned but to be fair it was pretty obvious that it was directed at her.

I said to sister “to be fair I don’t blame them, if I was going out for an evening with friends I wouldn’t want to be a captive audience to an 8 year olds dance routines. Now we’re no longer talking 🤦‍♀️😂

AIBU to have agreed with the friends?

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Froughties · Today 07:27

Oh god, I've signed up to a v expensive hen weekend and after reading so many threads, wish I'd thought to check that children wouldn't be there. It never used to be a thing, but there are a few t eens tagging on here and there. Please no!!!

OneoftheWeddingPeople · Today 07:23

There was a thread where a nutter brought her toddler to a hen weekend despite being explicitly asked not to. Years ago but it was epic! Scary how dense some people are.

OneoftheWeddingPeople · Today 07:21

It seems odd to me that the hosts child has to be physically not there. Shows how wet the parents are that they can’t enforce the kid staying upstairs and going to bed the only way to stop her joining in with the adults is to have her elsewhere.

Anewusernametoday · Today 07:18

You are right and I agree with you. Telling her was out of kindness and was brave if you, but unfortunately now you are the bad guy.
Hopefully she now can put herself in others shoes and realises

Tillow4ever · Today 07:12

Eightfor15 · Today 06:56

She does. OP volunteered. Reading the entire OP isn't compulsory, but it is recommended

Did you even read the quote that poster was replying to?

Tillow4ever · Today 07:11

You did the right thing - you were trying to stop her losing her friends, and did it in a tactful way!

If I didn’t have just the one sister, I would have thought you were talking at my sister. She acts and treats her daughter like she’s the most amazing child to ever exist. She goes out with her friends to the pub - and takes her with them. The daughter is 14 now, but this has been going on for years. She even orders jugs of cocktails and gives her daughter glasses from it. When the new Bridget Jones film came out I asked if she fancied going to see it with me. She said yes. A couple of days later she messaged to ask if her daughter could come (please note she is married so not as if she didn’t have childcare) with us. I pointed out it was a 15 certificate. She said it would be fine as her daughter is tall so felt she looked older. There’s no way she looked 15. She certainly didn’t act like a 15 year old. I asked what would happen if the cinema wouldn’t let her in (given I’d be driving us there I presumed she wouldn’t pay me back for the wasted fuel or my unused ticket as that’s what she’s like) - she wouldn’t even accept it was a risk so I asked her if there was a different date she could do so it would just be us and if not let’s just leave it. We didn’t go.

I don’t think she’s ever said no in her life to her daughter and you really can tell.

Eightfor15 · Today 06:56

ktopfwcv · Today 01:07

Either way if they fell out with her over that then she deserves better.

Why does she need to back out of the group if she doesn't have childcare? Confused

She does. OP volunteered. Reading the entire OP isn't compulsory, but it is recommended

freerangethighs · Today 06:44

Not speaking (assuming that's at your sister's instigation) seems like a huge overreaction. Does she really not believe you that you didn't speak to the friends? A much more likely (and probably predictable) explanation is that the first time it happened the friends viewed it as the daughter briefly saying hello to her mother's guests before going off to bed or to hang out with her dad and maybe the topic of dance or the daughter's interests and activities came up and she showed off a little bit with an impromptu demonstration - versus the second time when the daughter came back with multiple dance routines specifically prepared for the group and the mum probably mentioned how much the daughter been looking forward to the event and dancing for "the girls"!

MongoosePerfume · Today 06:24

MongoosePerfume · Today 06:15

I remember this! Are you in touch with her now and is she still the same?

Sorry - just seen you said she’s short on friends now! Are you in touch with the wider group? What happened in terms of the child free wedding? I’m fascinated!!

HAPPILYMARRIEDSINCE2012 · Today 06:22

SummerInSun · Yesterday 12:25

You are in the right, both in trying to to point that out to your sister originally - especially as you offered to have your niece for the night - and now. I do this with friends. If the kids appear for ten min at the beginning and say hello, then disappear to bed and we don’t see them again, that’s fine. But why would I leave my own kids to spend time with someone else’s? It’s either a family get together with all kids or an adult get together with no kids. The reality is that no one finds your kids adorable and interesting the way you do yourself.

This

MongoosePerfume · Today 06:15

ShakingAndCrying · Today 04:58

That was my post under a different name.

My best friend of many years kept bringing her daughter everywhere and acting like it was an honour that she joined any adult get togethers.
Her dd started trying to give relationship advice or bored us for hours about her friendship dramas or things she’d watched on tv.
No matter how many times we tried to gently suggest we wanted adult only time the more my friend seemed to dig her heels in.
I posted another thread after the spa day because I didn’t want to lose the friendship but I just didn’t know how to make it any clearer!

It didn’t end well, there was a big argument and we didn’t speak for months.
I dropped out of the group meet ups but the rest of the group were too soft to say anything until a child free wedding…

It’s good she still has her daughter as her “bestie” because she’s a bit short on other friends now.

I just don’t understand why some women are so insistent that their child is special and “one of the gang” when everyone else has babysitters and doesn’t want relationship advice off a 9 year old.
It still puzzles me and when I read this thread I wondered straight away if this was my friends sister!

I remember this! Are you in touch with her now and is she still the same?

CheeryOP · Today 05:15

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · Yesterday 17:06

Looks like your Sis shot the messenger

I would just keep out of things like this with her. She probably resents you telling her she's wrong and at the end of the day, her friends were able to do that themselves... Yet now you've ended up being the one taking all the flak, which seems very unfair.

You said inevitable fall out, so presumably there have been similar situations where you've wanted to step in and say "For Heaven's sake SIs, don't do that!"

But if that is the case, I think you need to start just letting her find out for herself. It will have far more effect, and you won't be the one in the firing line, when you were only trying to help.

Hope she calms down soon.

It sounds like op was trying to avoid a repeat of dsis hosting with dneice, but dsis ignored this and went ahead with hosting a second night with dneice and it was after this second night that her friends complained.

ShakingAndCrying · Today 04:58

TheBlueKoala · Today 04:28

Does she bring her dd to spadays as well? Remember a thread about this.

Your sister is delusional. Either you get together with kids or it's without. But I bet she thinks her daughter is so special that the others are thrilled having her there. Well done of them to nip it in the bud.

That was my post under a different name.

My best friend of many years kept bringing her daughter everywhere and acting like it was an honour that she joined any adult get togethers.
Her dd started trying to give relationship advice or bored us for hours about her friendship dramas or things she’d watched on tv.
No matter how many times we tried to gently suggest we wanted adult only time the more my friend seemed to dig her heels in.
I posted another thread after the spa day because I didn’t want to lose the friendship but I just didn’t know how to make it any clearer!

It didn’t end well, there was a big argument and we didn’t speak for months.
I dropped out of the group meet ups but the rest of the group were too soft to say anything until a child free wedding…

It’s good she still has her daughter as her “bestie” because she’s a bit short on other friends now.

I just don’t understand why some women are so insistent that their child is special and “one of the gang” when everyone else has babysitters and doesn’t want relationship advice off a 9 year old.
It still puzzles me and when I read this thread I wondered straight away if this was my friends sister!

LivingTheDreamish · Today 04:39

Well you weren't wrong were you. You tried to help and it has backfired because now she's mad at you. Just let it be, she'll get over it soon enough.

MongoosePerfume · Today 04:31

You totally did the right thing! I’m cringing for your sister.

wasn’t there a thread about someone wanting to bring their child along to a hen do a while ago? Absolutely bonkers!!!

TheBlueKoala · Today 04:28

Does she bring her dd to spadays as well? Remember a thread about this.

Your sister is delusional. Either you get together with kids or it's without. But I bet she thinks her daughter is so special that the others are thrilled having her there. Well done of them to nip it in the bud.

Flatandhappy · Today 03:41

I had a friend whose daughter insisted on singing and dancing for everyone. She (the adult) was most put out that my teenage boys didn’t want to watch. If I rocked up for a girls night and was subjected to someone else’s kid showing off her dance routines that would be the last time I would go to that house. Your sister is delusional.

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · Today 03:38

PollyBell · Today 03:25

If there are no kids at any other events why would the sister assume they wanted to see a performance, no one can answer thia i know but I dont get the logic

Because her kid is obviously ✨special✨ and she’s too dense/unaware to realise EVERYONE’s kid is special TO THEM.

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · Today 03:34

WashingLineFine · Yesterday 12:21

I was trying to save her from the inevitable fall out

You need to tell your sister this. She probably doesn’t want to fall out with her friends bc they have less loyalty than family so she knows she can take it out on you and you’re unlikely never to speak to her again over it. She sounds like an utter nob. I’m glad her friends called her out over it.

Chickadee26 · Today 03:28

You are not being unreasonable! What a bore that would be. My days of watching "plays" and "puppet shows" are over.

PollyBell · Today 03:25

If there are no kids at any other events why would the sister assume they wanted to see a performance, no one can answer thia i know but I dont get the logic

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · Today 03:23

ktopfwcv · Today 01:07

Either way if they fell out with her over that then she deserves better.

Why does she need to back out of the group if she doesn't have childcare? Confused

She does have childcare - and the friends have taken time to organise childcare too..

OP’s sister just decided that her friends must really want to watch a child’s performance one a childfree night.

You are projecting abit - there is a difference between your friends understanding that you don’t have access to childcare to - changing year long catch ups to appease the child

justanothermanicmonday1 · Today 03:16

Lmso your response to her made me giggle. Bravo.

ktopfwcv · Today 03:12

AlexandraCarrington · Today 02:26

Why does she need to back out of the group if she doesn't have childcare?

She does have childcare. From the op: whenever sister is hosting she asks me or my mum to have DN overnight.

You need to read the quote I was responding to as this is irrelevant to my post.

AlexandraCarrington · Today 02:26

Why does she need to back out of the group if she doesn't have childcare?

She does have childcare. From the op: whenever sister is hosting she asks me or my mum to have DN overnight.