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AIBU to agree my sister’s friends may want child-free girls’ nights?

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WashingLineFine · Yesterday 12:10

My sister has a group of friends she met at university, they’re all in their late 30s now but take turns to host “girls night” where they go to each others houses, have a few drinks and watch a film.
whenever sister is hosting she asks me or my mum to have DN overnight.
A few weeks ago she was hosting and she hadn’t asked me to have DN so I asked if mum was having her, she said no she’s keeping her at home this time.
Day after she told me DN had had an amazing time showing off her dance routines to sisters friends. I asked if the friends minded her being there and she said no, they loved watching her. Thought it was a bit weird but whatever.
last week sister was hosting again and told me DN was really looking forward to it and had a load of new routines ready to show “the girls”. At this point I gently suggested that maybe her friends enjoy child free nights and would prefer no kids there and offered to have DN. This was rubbished so I left it.

This morning she messaged me asking if I’d said something to her friends because all of a sudden they’re complaining about DN being there. I asked what had actually been said and it was a group WhatsApp messsge basically saying if there’s weeks when a host can’t get a babysitter they should change the host for that week. They all agreed. DN wasn’t mentioned but to be fair it was pretty obvious that it was directed at her.

I said to sister “to be fair I don’t blame them, if I was going out for an evening with friends I wouldn’t want to be a captive audience to an 8 year olds dance routines. Now we’re no longer talking 🤦‍♀️😂

AIBU to have agreed with the friends?

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Ohdearnotthisagain · Yesterday 12:16

Totally agree with you. Clearly her friends do too.

I assume you didn’t talk to them though?

Notmycircusnotmyotter · Yesterday 12:19

100%

ACatNamedRobin · Yesterday 12:19

Yep fully agree with you.
Your sister clearly has main character syndrome, and it seems that she's bringing her kid up to be the same.

Make sure you don't suddenly turn into a doormat by acquiescing with her to keep the peace- hold your nerve.

WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · Yesterday 12:20

You're right but overstepped with your "gentle suggestions." Her friends are adults who didn't need you speaking for them. Now you're the bad guy.

WashingLineFine · Yesterday 12:20

Ohdearnotthisagain · Yesterday 12:16

Totally agree with you. Clearly her friends do too.

I assume you didn’t talk to them though?

Noooo i barely know them, ive only ever spoken to them at parties etc

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WashingLineFine · Yesterday 12:21

WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · Yesterday 12:20

You're right but overstepped with your "gentle suggestions." Her friends are adults who didn't need you speaking for them. Now you're the bad guy.

I was trying to save her from the inevitable fall out

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Millytante · Yesterday 12:22

WashingLineFine · Yesterday 12:10

My sister has a group of friends she met at university, they’re all in their late 30s now but take turns to host “girls night” where they go to each others houses, have a few drinks and watch a film.
whenever sister is hosting she asks me or my mum to have DN overnight.
A few weeks ago she was hosting and she hadn’t asked me to have DN so I asked if mum was having her, she said no she’s keeping her at home this time.
Day after she told me DN had had an amazing time showing off her dance routines to sisters friends. I asked if the friends minded her being there and she said no, they loved watching her. Thought it was a bit weird but whatever.
last week sister was hosting again and told me DN was really looking forward to it and had a load of new routines ready to show “the girls”. At this point I gently suggested that maybe her friends enjoy child free nights and would prefer no kids there and offered to have DN. This was rubbished so I left it.

This morning she messaged me asking if I’d said something to her friends because all of a sudden they’re complaining about DN being there. I asked what had actually been said and it was a group WhatsApp messsge basically saying if there’s weeks when a host can’t get a babysitter they should change the host for that week. They all agreed. DN wasn’t mentioned but to be fair it was pretty obvious that it was directed at her.

I said to sister “to be fair I don’t blame them, if I was going out for an evening with friends I wouldn’t want to be a captive audience to an 8 year olds dance routines. Now we’re no longer talking 🤦‍♀️😂

AIBU to have agreed with the friends?

Oh God yes. DN’s presence as an honorary member if the group would seriously piss me off, to be really honest,

AmyDudley · Yesterday 12:23

You're absolutely right.
Only the strongest maternal blinkers would make someone think an eight year old dancing was entertainment.

bababamama · Yesterday 12:24

As a one off fine but I’m with you, a girls night in doesn’t involve kids (asleep in bed is fine)

Dontlletmedownbruce · Yesterday 12:24

Im 100% with you. She will come to understand you don't know the friends and they came to their own conclusion. Then maybe she can fall out with the friends too for a while! Hopefully she will realise her views are different to theirs and come around to accept that and put the whole silly thing behind her. The choosing to not talk to you part is very childish.

Ohdearnotthisagain · Yesterday 12:24

WashingLineFine · Yesterday 12:20

Noooo i barely know them, ive only ever spoken to them at parties etc

Well I’d put her straight on that aspect at least.

CrocsNotDocs · Yesterday 12:25

The only thing more boring than your own child’s dance routines is someone else’s child’s dance routine.

SummerInSun · Yesterday 12:25

You are in the right, both in trying to to point that out to your sister originally - especially as you offered to have your niece for the night - and now. I do this with friends. If the kids appear for ten min at the beginning and say hello, then disappear to bed and we don’t see them again, that’s fine. But why would I leave my own kids to spend time with someone else’s? It’s either a family get together with all kids or an adult get together with no kids. The reality is that no one finds your kids adorable and interesting the way you do yourself.

TonTonMacoute · Yesterday 12:25

WashingLineFine · Yesterday 12:21

I was trying to save her from the inevitable fall out

Of course YANBU, I can't imagine anything worse than spending a girls night in watching some kid doing her Taylor Swift moves.

However, no good deed goes unpunished. Leave your sister to sort it out.

BeSharpHelper · Yesterday 12:25

Nothing. Fucking. Worse.
sounds like her friends have nipped it in the bud though. A quick hello, goodnight , is permissible but otherwise absolutely not, and dance routines ffs,if people want to watch that shit they do it at home with their own children under duress. It could only be worse if she gave them a recorder recital.

songbird3086 · Yesterday 12:27

Omg! My friend did this to me on a months in advanced night in with cocktails and karaoke. There were 6 of us and she bought her 9 year old twin girls. She said it was only for 2 hours then her husband would he collecting them so we all made an effort, made them cocktails and listened to their signing and showing off thinking it was only till 8.30pm. Lo and behold as it approaches she said they were having too good a time so we’re staying. Absolutely ruined. She also was very unhappy when we told her it wouldn’t be happening again. We all have kids 5-12 and are grateful for the break away!!

songbird3086 · Yesterday 12:28

Mocktails!!! We made them mocktails just to be clear

Bunnycat101 · Yesterday 12:31

Oh gosh your sister has screwed this one up. My daughter own children had a phase of doing routines and it’s bloody painful as a parent who loves them dearly. Her friends will have been wanting to put pins on their eyes.

honeylulu · Yesterday 12:35

Oh dear. I think the first time the guests assumed it was a one off and she couldn't get a sitter so didn't mind. Sister assumed they liked it and it had been a huge success. Now they've had to tell her this should not be repeated if possible and she's offended.

Don't say anything else except that you didn't say anything to the friends and that you don't want to upset her so won't say anything else about it.

I used to be in a book group where we took turns to host. My kids were right show offs when they were younger but I'd only let them come in for a few mins as people were arriving to say hello and nick some of our crisps and would then ask DH to keep them (and himself) out of the way. He'd sometimes moan that "they like seeing everyone" because he was a bit lazy about keeping them amused and getting them ready for bed but I would firmly say "well this is an adult group and everyone does not want to see THEM."

ConsideringBaby2 · Yesterday 12:36

bababamama · Yesterday 12:24

As a one off fine but I’m with you, a girls night in doesn’t involve kids (asleep in bed is fine)

Yes this
I host in turns and have kids, many of my friends don’t yet (but they do want them asap which maybe changes things?), so my DD says hello/quick chat and then goes to bed. I tend to host after 7pm so I can be uninterrupted but wouldn’t expect my friends to be knobs about it either.
When I go to my other friend who has 5 kids ranging 7-18, they are often awake and it doesn’t bother me at all! We just mind what we are talking about if they are right there and when not, chat away!

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · Yesterday 12:40

This has happened at my craft group evenings - someone brought their high school aged daughter along one evening and now lots more crafters are bringing their primary aged grandchildren.

Hate the group dynamic now - considering taking my preschool twin grandchildren to see how that will go down.

Some things should stay 'adult only' - I look forward to socialising with friends: especially as I do need a break from 'child company' as I look after both my daughters' children on a daily basis.

racierach · Yesterday 12:43

songbird3086 · Yesterday 12:28

Mocktails!!! We made them mocktails just to be clear

maybe you should have made them cocktails. Mother definitely wouldn’t have brought them again 🤣

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 12:48

Oh god your sister had called foul of a classic blunder!

No one else wants to watch your child putting on a show. No one wants to see them singing and dancing on their adult evenings.

Maybe if DN had gone quickly to bed her being there would be fine but of course they didn’t want a child joining their adult evening, when they’ve all sorted babysitting themselves.

Moonnstarz · Yesterday 12:50

A one off they perhaps put down to no childcare. The fact she was repeating it made it clear that she never has any intention of having a child free night. She needs to think how she might feel if she went round theirs and their kid stayed up chatting when perhaps she wanted to have a child free night.

BigYellowBus · Yesterday 12:52

There was a thread a while back about someone who insisted on bringing their 8 year old to girls' nights out despite having a partner . This sort of thing needs to be stamped out