Which child is wrong-er

Just kids being kids. Why does one have to be more wrong?

Why did you not just say child A, you're alright, child B was a bit annoying but that's life now what are we having for tea??

Why have you turned it into such a big deal?

Child A started the fight.

The attempt to defend them (implying child B deserved to be assaulted because they were being irritating, and that child A's push was somehow more innocent) is doing the dc no favours.

It's a bit of a non-event.

What did the mum say in her text?

And this is why we don't take toys to school!
So many times it ends in tears despite schools saying precious items should be kept at home.

As others say it was obvious child A was going to be yours. She was definitely in the wrong for pushing first and perhaps if that upset about the keyring should have gone to the teacher about it. Sounds like messing around in the cloakroom out of sight as you do then mention when she started crying the teacher was told and spoke to the kids.

Both kids should have experienced the same consequence, both were pushing so that could just be the firm words from the teacher at the end of the day or depending on how strict your school is 5 mins inside at lunch.

The mum messaging is wrong, and as always in these situations I would just say I am aware of what happened, the school have dealt with it. I wouldn't engage in who was right/wrong.

I dont think this is about boy's or girl behaviour. Although I agree woman shouldn't always have to give way to men.

However this is about one spoilt child with an enable for a mother who has zero boundaries. My son had a girl in his.old class like that and most of the kids hated her as she was constantly causing issues, interfering and pushing other kids boundaries. She had been taught she was entitled to do this to other kids by enabler parents.

I would definitely say child A
You cant just react violently because you find someone annoying! By year 3 (7 and 8) the child has been at school 3 years and however bad their parenting, school will have taught them this.

Child B’s mum needs to teach her son that when a girl asks him to leave her alone, he does exactly that. In the world we live in today I have no qualms about teaching my daughters to do whatever they have to when boys/men invade their space and feel entitled to insert themselves where they have no business.

Abs no fucks given about being nice. Kind yes. But never at there own expense or detriment.

This is just about not using hands, it doesn't matter if it is a girl or a boy no one should be using violence in a school.

Or from the other perspective.
The girl was upset and frustrated at her keyring being broken. Boy could see his friend was upset and came over to see what the matter was trying to be kind and helo. Girl understandably frustrated at her new keyring being broken and lashed out and pushed boy. ,
But honestly this sort of thing is commonplace even at this age in every class in the country and it is dealt with swiftly and is really a non-event....... Until the bloody mothers get involved!!

So it’s fine to verbally provoke someone and not leave them alone?

That should be “can you please explain the thinking behind teaching a child not to push another child (who won’t take no for an answer)”.

Pushing is wrong but there is a big difference between pushing someone unprovoked and pushing someone who is badgering you and won’t leave you alone. The responses should be different.

Makes you wonder what all the PPs saying whoever pushed first was wrong would say about this type of scenario https://youtube.com/shorts/KDo8n_7_2YI?si=N-UW8DWQrnFCoIwD

I don't see what that story has got to do with this thread? That woman was physically attacked and she retaliated. Perfectly reasonable behaviour.

boy mom?

of course it is about sex. He's a little fucker and needs to be told

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One of each.

You do know that girls can be just as annoying too, right?

This issue really isn't about sex.

And i find it sad that you feel it's acceptable to call a 7 year old a little fucker.

For God's sake, we are talking about 7 year old kids here.
Do you really believe that it's always the boy who is 'invading' the space of the trembling little girlie?
You don't seem to know kids very well.

It's ridiculous to turn this into a sexist issue...both kids were wrong, one was an irritant and the other reacted by pushing.
Typical kid behaviour....be they male or female.

Nope, but using your hands won't solve that and is the wrong next step. Using your hands, especially as a child, is worse than being annoying. No one, male , female, annoying, not annoying, should use their hands on anyone else. It really is that simple.

OP we are dealing with this recently but in high school. Teen boy just won't leave my DS alone, just in his face all the time. Sometimes demanding my DS accepts his apologies when he's done something annoying, and not understanding my DS needs space. I've actually had to get school involved in case it did lead to a pushing incident (which it hasn't) but this child gets my son against a wall (all in the same friend group) and goes on and on and on at my son about stupid things, it's just so annoying!
yes your DD shouldn't have pushed first but she is only 7, she is young and all of her other attempts to ignore this boy or tell the teacher haven't worked. Is she supposed to just sit there forever and take it? No. She is not. Hopefully this child keeps his hands to himself and keeps his nosy nonstop behaviour to himself now as well. Ignore the mum and go through school, always.

I agree, but if you could explain what would be the next step to OP that would be helpful. Perhaps something her DD hasn't already tried.

Very simple, she tells an adult. She puts her hand up/goes to the TA or teacher and asks them to sort the situation. I've double checked the op's posts and the daughter didn't do this. The whole situation would probably have been avoided if she had as the other child would likely have been told to go and sit down/move away etc.

She pushed the attacker first.

If the teacher tells child B to back off, all well and good. If it's the type of teacher to tell child A off for 'telling tales', then child A isn't going to raise her hand and ask teacher for assistance after the first time of being cut down.

Most teachers would speak to the child about it, so yes, she should put her hand up and speak to an adult. Pushing someone is not acceptable.

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