To think if a 33 year old has kids

More or less agree. While obviously people can have babies at whatever ages they want, some ages are too young and some are too old. Having children is a young adult's job. Not having children when you're a child yourself or when you're grandparent age.

It's fiction but Reginald Perrin was a grandfather to two toddlers by 47.
I say this just to refute any suggestions that having babies young is some kind of poverty phenomenon as he was clearly middle class.

This book was written about 50 years ago.

The oldest of my grandparents was 45 when I was born.

Then again the stereotypical granny was grey-haired in a rocking chair knitting in 1980. The song 'grandma' was about then.

So it doesn't make sense. Maybe they meant great, great grandma.

More or less agree. While obviously people can have babies at whatever ages they want, some ages are too young and some are too old. Having children is a young adult's job. Not having children when you're a child yourself or when you're grandparent age.

Actually agree with this and I had my second at 37-
now in my mid fifties I could cry with how exhausted I am - kid number one leaving for university today- number two will likely be another 2 years which just feels epic at the moment
I love them -I'm not horrible and I'd never make them feel ousted- hence son took 2 gap years- but my god I need some space and time for myself- I honestly think I'd have coped better younger (though not too young)
To be fair I do know a few women who were older than me but they just had one and I think that has made it do-able for them.
Also it's only really my late 40s onwards that it's felt so very difficult- I thought the trenches of young kids was hard but realise now that the energy you have in your late 30s early 40s isn't so bad- it's later that the energy drop hits!

With advances in modern medicine and IVF treatment, thats an outdated statement. Now its quite normal to have children up to the age of 45 or even 50. I had mine at 48 and I know plenty of others who had their children over the age of 40.

That is beyond selfish imo and she is not considering her child at all.

My SIL was 46 when she had her last child, now 16 and he hates having older parents especially as they are also grandparents now too. I recall my childhood friend's father was in his 50's when she was born. When we were teens lots of people assumed he was her gf and she absolutely hate it.

Normal? I don’t think it’s normal & I reckon it was more common in the days before birth control.

Ok, perhaps I should have said "it's not unusual" rather than "it's normal".

@CelticSilverCan I asked what age you stopped? 4 in a short timeframe, wowsers!

I had them at 39, 40, 43 and 46. All naturally conceived and healthy. I know I'm very, very lucky.

I don't know if lucky is the word. Unusual certainly. JMO, but I would never have had 4 children at 39-40+ (With the last at 46!) I would have stopped at the 2 (at 39 and 40.) As I said JMO.

The OP is obviously being silly saying that no-one should be having them after 33-34, but 46 is an age where the vast majority of women would never consider having a baby...

Actually agree with this and I had my second at 37-
now in my mid fifties I could cry with how exhausted I am - kid number one leaving for university today- number two will likely be another 2 years which just feels epic at the moment
I love them -I'm not horrible and I'd never make them feel ousted- hence son took 2 gap years- but my god I need some space and time for myself- I honestly think I'd have coped better younger (though not too young)
To be fair I do know a few women who were older than me but they just had one and I think that has made it do-able for them.
Also it's only really my late 40s onwards that it's felt so very difficult- I thought the trenches of young kids was hard but realise now that the energy you have in your late 30s early 40s isn't so bad- it's later that the energy drop hits!

It's a real pity that social norms and cost of living make it almost impossible for most women to start their families in their twenties. Whole system needs a rehaul. It would be much better to have kids immediately after uni and then catch up on your career later. You could have two kids, stay home with them until they start school, start your career around age 27-29, and still get in around 40 years of work. The way things are set up now is completely at odds with women's biology. But what I just described could never happen, partly because of the cost of living, but I also blame men a huge amount. Young men have no intention of settling down and starting a family at what is the ideal time for women - twenties. So many of them just want an extended adolescence and then marry a younger woman when they are 35-40. Which leaves women in a position where they have to get someone quite a bit older or wait until their eggs are getting dodgy.

Providing that you have met someone right for you, it should be the social norm to have your children in a gap between uni and work. And men should be socialised to commit early, if they are with someone they love.