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To want to throw a match at my life and walk away while it burns

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UpsideD0wn · 17/09/2026 17:45

47 year old woman. Everything is too much. Demanding work, no sisterhood, was called into a meeting today about potential performance management because another woman is undermining me alongside a bullying male boss but apparently it’s my fault.
Children are all adapting to a new school or new teachers/school year so lots of emotional let out at home which I manage on my own. Useless husband/ex who still live with and only does things if asked and only reluctantly or ‘forgets’ (major mental health issues and previous DA) I make every meal, clean up, house seems to be my responsibility on top of working. I have put in rules so the children now contribute more with washing/dishwasher etc.
All clubs organising, lifts etc are down to me.
I have given up alcohol and tried eating better and it’s made no difference to my weight or my emotions. I’m on HRT. I want to walk away from it all, I want to escape, I want to not been burdened with everyone’s else’s shit. There’s a lot of traumatic past catching up with me and no money for therapy, lots of triggers.
so… AIBU to ask is it possible to find joy when everything in life is hard and it feels like you’re fighting on every front?

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Summerhillsquare · 23/09/2026 20:03

dh280125 · 18/09/2026 12:04

If your company puts you on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP), do not try to win it by working harder.

PIP metrics are usually rigged to fire you for cause and deny you severance.

The best play is creating massive legal and financial risk so HR is forced to pay you to go away.

  • Trigger a Retaliation Freeze: File a formal internal complaint to HR immediately. Explicitly tie your manager’s sudden negative attitude to a protected event, such as your recent complaints about the toxic environment. HR must freeze the PIP to investigate, because firing you during an active retaliation complaint is a legal nightmare for them.
  • Submit a Scorched-Earth Rebuttal: Never sign a PIP acknowledging poor performance. If forced, write "Signed only to acknowledge receipt; formal rebuttal to follow." Then, submit a meticulous, data-heavy document proving the targets are mathematically impossible, exposing shifting goalposts, and contrasting their claims with past positive reviews. Demand this be added to your permanent file. Think it’s hard? Get AI to ask you what it needs to draft this, point by point.
  • Secure Evidence: Download every performance review, praise email, and hostile exchange to a personal device before they wipe your laptop. Do not touch proprietary company data, but aggressively back up your personal employment history and paper trail.
  • Weaponize Medical Leave: If the hostile environment is causing severe anxiety or burnout, see a doctor immediately. Taking medical leave or short-term disability legally halts the PIP clock. You get paid to sit at home and job hunt while legal prevents management from touching you. Sounds like you could easily qualify to this given your desperation and crying. You seem depressed.
  • Force a Negotiated Exit: Once the PIP is paralyzed by an HR investigation or medical leave, approach HR (ideally through a solicitor who specialises in employment). State that to avoid a prolonged legal dispute regarding a bad-faith PIP, you are willing to waive your right to sue in exchange for a mutual separation package. Demand several months of severance and a clean reference, or whatever the solicitor advises.
PIP is often a rigged game. Shift the score. Shift 100% of your energy from trying to save your job to extracting a heavy cash payout. Move on, because you absolutely aren’t happy.

While we are at it, I’d advise the same on your ex. He absolutely should not be in that house IMHO.

Crikey that's comprehensive and useful reference material!

Morepositivemum · 23/09/2026 06:58

I think I’d look at how much you earn, how much you have/ can san save, whether you can find a job either less hours/ more flexibility

WantALieDown · 23/09/2026 06:56

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UpsideD0wn · 21/09/2026 18:23

WantALieDown · 19/09/2026 08:25

So sorry OP, that’s really difficult. DH has autistic meltdown, mental breakdowns, it’s really challenging to live with someone who is continually dysregulated. I know just what you mean about this creeping sense of feeling more and more responsible for everyone’s feelings, and just service human for others. I’ve really been working on boundaries, completely dropped the anticipation that I used to do to try to smooth things over for everyone. I’ve kicked them all out of my head. I think they are nicer to me now. People’s ability to take is huge, they are not mindful or grateful. I think you need to prioritise your own self care: gentle walks in any nature near you, interesting podcasts or audiobooks, calming guided meditations (Insight app, or Plum Village app are free). Cooking food you like. Maybe you can post on the Work board here? It’s very good for advice from HR people etc. Thinking of you 💐

I love your phrase ‘kick them out of my head’ @WantALieDown that makes a lot of sense. When he’s had mental health breakdowns and hospitalisation 4 times throughout the children’s childhoods and I have no one geographically close to help I have had no choice but to be everything to the children. I have had to take responsibility for it all. Even though he’s on different meds now I can’t trust that he’s not going breakdown again-it’s a lifelong illness, it’s not going to disappear. I feel like I’m in a sniper’s alley waiting for the next attack (not physical but the next problem to deal with).
I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with it too/dealing with it 💐
I love reading and music so have started blasting out my favourite tunes when I get to drive on my own to help lighten my mood. I think it’s because all the stuff that has helped in the past doesn’t feel like they’re touching the sides this time. It’s like my body/mind can only cope with so much stress and this is probably the time I need to make bigger changes but I feel I need to feel happier and more confident before I can make the changes.
Thank you for the info about the work board, I’ll take a look now.

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UpsideD0wn · 21/09/2026 18:15

CoolGreyHare · 20/09/2026 20:00

@UpsideD0wn hope you have managed to get some rest this weekend and are feeling ok x

Thank you @CoolGreyHare I wasn’t able to! Kid’s birthday and usual sporting activities and play dates but I am recognising now that even if I find 15 mins for me a day this week that’s better than last week. ❤️ thank you for checking.

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UpsideD0wn · 21/09/2026 18:14

LondonLass2026 · 20/09/2026 21:23

I hear you on the work issue. A new woman started in our team about 3 months ago. Really liked her at first and sang her praises. Then we were put on a project together. We're the same level, but omg, she literally treats me as her assistant. Too long to go into, but she's made my life miserable. It's an event, and I can't wait until it's over. I get a stomach ache thinking about it.

She was messaging me at 6pm on Friday, so passive agressive. "oh I'm handling THIS AND THIS (literally her tasks) all alone but don't worry! Have a great weekend!" It's been two months of this. I've reported it to my line manager, but the bully's line manager loves her and is powerful, so it's going to be a problem.

Isn't it funny how one person can throw such a grenade into your life?

I totally get you on other things you describe, and while my own son was a child a long time ago now, all my peers and my sister have young kids now and were tearing their hair out. And then it suddenly gets easier as they get older.

No advice on lessening the housework! I'm still looking for answers for that, myself! 😂

🩷

I didn’t mean to ‘love’ this @LondonLass2026 it’s more a ❤️ to say I’m sorry you’re having a shitty time at work. We spend so much time there, it melts into our home life when you can’t get it out of your mind and can’t sleep.
I just assumed women knew we should have each other’s backs in the patriarchal world of work so it’s upsetting when other women undermine you and go out of their way to make your life harder.
Sending you 💐

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UpsideD0wn · 21/09/2026 18:10

RecliningMama · 20/09/2026 22:02

@UpsideD0wn my suggestion would be to treat your current living situation as you would if you lived apart. Well as much as you can anyway.

  1. EOW childcare. Only one of you in the house at the weekend with the kids. That person at home also needs to keep house clean and wash uniform. Find somewhere you could have downtime on your weekends off - local hotel, trip to your parents whatever works for you.

  2. Midweek - 2/3 nights alternate weeks. Each are responsible for feeding the kids, helping with homework and getting them to bed. On your nights off, go to the gym, out for a walk, catch a movie, or even just go to bed and read, whatever, but have your nights off.

If this doesn’t suit your Ex, then tell him to leave as this will be the set-up anyway if he lived elsewhere.

Your job sounds shitty. See what else is out there and start applying while still in your current role. You just never know where this could lead. Happier working days perhaps?

I like how you’ve listed it out, that might work as an option @RecliningMama
He knows what it is to live apart and have to do all his own stuff but he’s not used to doing anything with the children in the week because he worked away for a couple of years before that too, so it’s a revelation that they each have their own lives and things to do every night of the week.
I’m going to try the jobs board on here to ask some specific questions.
It has been exhausting that some of the big areas of my life are so awful-relationship and work. It’s made me turn it back on myself and think I must be the problem.

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UpsideD0wn · 21/09/2026 18:04

HelloandWelcomeToYou · 18/09/2026 11:28

Oh hun a huge squeezy hug for you. Its no consolation but so many of us have been or are where you are now. We get it. We hear you. This is not a path that hasn't been walked before by so many of us.
People can say what they want and blame you for this, that and the other but thats their opinion and not fact. In each moment try to come back to reality that you are responsible for you. You have always and are doing your best.
Re work...I think you need independent support and advice and no I wouldnt be going into a meeting on my own when under thus much pressure and potential they are circling wagons around you.

Thank you @HelloandWelcomeToYou
I have been watching instagram
posts about how feelings are passing emotions and not to be confused with a reflection of my whole life.
I really appreciate the wisdom of mumsnetters. I actually feel heard and seen for the first time in a long time.

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UpsideD0wn · 21/09/2026 17:51

OsfameronTanamoril · 18/09/2026 11:10

OP, big un- Mumsnetty hug.
Can you please call any one of your friends who have stuck by you? They may have their burdens but they can go out with you for a coffee for an hour. I would!

I am convinced that female friendship is what gets us through these tough mid-life years. And please don't let the men get away with this behaviour. Tell your ex to fuck off. Tell your sons they have to be nicer to you.

Thank you @OsfameronTanamoril the kindness shown here is huge to me and I’m very grateful. I have tried with a couple of local friends and an old friend who lives away and just hear back that they’re busy (mostly with other friends doing fun things). They don’t want to listen to me when I’m not the usual cheery person they know. I literally see them recoil when I start to open up, and sigh loudly. I don’t want to put myself through the rejection anymore so isolate myself even more.

I know the boys are dealing with new schools and teachers etc so am cutting them a little slack but also keeping manners and kindness boundaries in place which they’re currently ignoring. I’m putting their behaviour down to Sept blues and having to deal with ex as they can see how useless he is.

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RecliningMama · 20/09/2026 22:02

@UpsideD0wn my suggestion would be to treat your current living situation as you would if you lived apart. Well as much as you can anyway.

  1. EOW childcare. Only one of you in the house at the weekend with the kids. That person at home also needs to keep house clean and wash uniform. Find somewhere you could have downtime on your weekends off - local hotel, trip to your parents whatever works for you.

  2. Midweek - 2/3 nights alternate weeks. Each are responsible for feeding the kids, helping with homework and getting them to bed. On your nights off, go to the gym, out for a walk, catch a movie, or even just go to bed and read, whatever, but have your nights off.

If this doesn’t suit your Ex, then tell him to leave as this will be the set-up anyway if he lived elsewhere.

Your job sounds shitty. See what else is out there and start applying while still in your current role. You just never know where this could lead. Happier working days perhaps?

LondonLass2026 · 20/09/2026 21:23

I hear you on the work issue. A new woman started in our team about 3 months ago. Really liked her at first and sang her praises. Then we were put on a project together. We're the same level, but omg, she literally treats me as her assistant. Too long to go into, but she's made my life miserable. It's an event, and I can't wait until it's over. I get a stomach ache thinking about it.

She was messaging me at 6pm on Friday, so passive agressive. "oh I'm handling THIS AND THIS (literally her tasks) all alone but don't worry! Have a great weekend!" It's been two months of this. I've reported it to my line manager, but the bully's line manager loves her and is powerful, so it's going to be a problem.

Isn't it funny how one person can throw such a grenade into your life?

I totally get you on other things you describe, and while my own son was a child a long time ago now, all my peers and my sister have young kids now and were tearing their hair out. And then it suddenly gets easier as they get older.

No advice on lessening the housework! I'm still looking for answers for that, myself! 😂

🩷

UpsideD0wn · 20/09/2026 20:17

thank you for lovely messages, I’ve got time tomorrow to go through them. I’m just getting the children to bed and hoping to sit down before 9pm which would be a first this week!

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CoolGreyHare · 20/09/2026 20:00

@UpsideD0wn hope you have managed to get some rest this weekend and are feeling ok x

pandarific · 19/09/2026 09:04

@UpsideD0wn just wanted to ask, can you tell
the kids school that you as a family are having a difficult time right now and ask how they can help. Eg less homework for kids, extra support for them.

WantALieDown · 19/09/2026 08:25

So sorry OP, that’s really difficult. DH has autistic meltdown, mental breakdowns, it’s really challenging to live with someone who is continually dysregulated. I know just what you mean about this creeping sense of feeling more and more responsible for everyone’s feelings, and just service human for others. I’ve really been working on boundaries, completely dropped the anticipation that I used to do to try to smooth things over for everyone. I’ve kicked them all out of my head. I think they are nicer to me now. People’s ability to take is huge, they are not mindful or grateful. I think you need to prioritise your own self care: gentle walks in any nature near you, interesting podcasts or audiobooks, calming guided meditations (Insight app, or Plum Village app are free). Cooking food you like. Maybe you can post on the Work board here? It’s very good for advice from HR people etc. Thinking of you 💐

HelloandWelcomeToYou · 19/09/2026 07:13

Hello @UpsideD0wn hope you get some time over weekend to yourself and do something just for you.

dh280125 · 18/09/2026 12:04

UpsideD0wn · 18/09/2026 06:41

Awake since 5am. Feeling sick. I know I can get through work today but another meeting next week with my line manager, I feel nervous about how to defend myself, wondering if I should ask HR to be there.
I genuinely feel like life is about to come crashing down and I’m not strong enough to deal with it. My son hugged me last night while I was crying, I don’t want him to feel he has to look after me. I’ve asked for help from the gp before and had cbt counselling. She said I should stop going to my mum for help because it was almost masiochistic (can’t work out how to spell it) as she would reject me each time so I was stuck in a loop. So I pulled away and keep things light and airy but it feels false not being able to share my anxious thoughts and worries and keeping them bottled up only to spill out as tears and sometimes in fro t of the children. It was a job I enjoyed but they moved me once projects finished and I’m now in an area I struggle with. I don’t want to be too identifying but the hours are good for school so to move I have to accept I can’t be there for the children as much as I am now.

If your company puts you on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP), do not try to win it by working harder.

PIP metrics are usually rigged to fire you for cause and deny you severance.

The best play is creating massive legal and financial risk so HR is forced to pay you to go away.

  • Trigger a Retaliation Freeze: File a formal internal complaint to HR immediately. Explicitly tie your manager’s sudden negative attitude to a protected event, such as your recent complaints about the toxic environment. HR must freeze the PIP to investigate, because firing you during an active retaliation complaint is a legal nightmare for them.
  • Submit a Scorched-Earth Rebuttal: Never sign a PIP acknowledging poor performance. If forced, write "Signed only to acknowledge receipt; formal rebuttal to follow." Then, submit a meticulous, data-heavy document proving the targets are mathematically impossible, exposing shifting goalposts, and contrasting their claims with past positive reviews. Demand this be added to your permanent file. Think it’s hard? Get AI to ask you what it needs to draft this, point by point.
  • Secure Evidence: Download every performance review, praise email, and hostile exchange to a personal device before they wipe your laptop. Do not touch proprietary company data, but aggressively back up your personal employment history and paper trail.
  • Weaponize Medical Leave: If the hostile environment is causing severe anxiety or burnout, see a doctor immediately. Taking medical leave or short-term disability legally halts the PIP clock. You get paid to sit at home and job hunt while legal prevents management from touching you. Sounds like you could easily qualify to this given your desperation and crying. You seem depressed.
  • Force a Negotiated Exit: Once the PIP is paralyzed by an HR investigation or medical leave, approach HR (ideally through a solicitor who specialises in employment). State that to avoid a prolonged legal dispute regarding a bad-faith PIP, you are willing to waive your right to sue in exchange for a mutual separation package. Demand several months of severance and a clean reference, or whatever the solicitor advises.
PIP is often a rigged game. Shift the score. Shift 100% of your energy from trying to save your job to extracting a heavy cash payout. Move on, because you absolutely aren’t happy.

While we are at it, I’d advise the same on your ex. He absolutely should not be in that house IMHO.

OsfameronTanamoril · 18/09/2026 11:45

Do you have the time or money to join a club or hobby group? And of course, many are free.

Oldrunner · 18/09/2026 11:38

Another virtual hug from here.
You are doing amazing. You are juggling so much it's no wonder it all gets overwhelming.
Work- don't let the bastards grind you down. Do your job, be professional and don't let them get to you. You're experienced, you can do the job. And then when you leave at the end of the day, park it. Don't think about it!
See your GP and get a health check. Something could be off blood wise( ?low iron), or ?menopausal. Also your mental health with stress and anxiety. There is medication that helps.
Home life- Your kids love you even if they are at the lazy, selfish, incommunicative stage where every request however simple is met by an argument or totally ignored. I've been there, on fact I doubt there's a parent who hasn't. Ignore the blame from your husband- it's his illness talking. Yes it's hurtful but park it. Without you, this home would not function. You are central, you are important, you are strong. You matter!
And try and take a few minutes each day just for you even if it's just singing along to a favourite song in the shower or sitting down with a nice cake and coffee and reading Mumsnet. Treat yourself . Look after yourself.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 18/09/2026 11:32

That’s a lot to deal with.
All you can do is push through until the dust settle in work.
If you have to give you ex a weekly print out of expectations for the week ahead then I would do that.
If he misses up the children’s schedule it is on him or he can take on the cleaning.,

HelloandWelcomeToYou · 18/09/2026 11:28

UpsideD0wn · 18/09/2026 10:59

Yes, to be honest lately it’s felt like the only option left. The only thing stopping me is the children because I don’t want to fuck up their lives even more.
Although, I had an epiphany this morning that as a mid-aged woman society thinks (or I have been trained to think) it’s my responsibility to manage the emotional baggage/regulation of men-the boss at work, the useless ex, the children (all boys). And if I get overwhelmed playing that role it’s on me, not them. I am blamed for not managing how I communicate with the boss on his terms-it’s on me to change the way I talk/approach meetings/send emails because he is senior. My ex has told me to my face it’s my fault he’s got ill (not the actually mental health issues he’s been medically diagnosed) the children tell me when I’ve let them down, or I have been ‘mean’ when I get to attend school daily or haven’t listened in the right way. That’s why I feel I need more female company because men/male company just comes with expectations of what they want from me, not what they can give me.

Oh hun a huge squeezy hug for you. Its no consolation but so many of us have been or are where you are now. We get it. We hear you. This is not a path that hasn't been walked before by so many of us.
People can say what they want and blame you for this, that and the other but thats their opinion and not fact. In each moment try to come back to reality that you are responsible for you. You have always and are doing your best.
Re work...I think you need independent support and advice and no I wouldnt be going into a meeting on my own when under thus much pressure and potential they are circling wagons around you.

OsfameronTanamoril · 18/09/2026 11:10

OP, big un- Mumsnetty hug.
Can you please call any one of your friends who have stuck by you? They may have their burdens but they can go out with you for a coffee for an hour. I would!

I am convinced that female friendship is what gets us through these tough mid-life years. And please don't let the men get away with this behaviour. Tell your ex to fuck off. Tell your sons they have to be nicer to you.

UpsideD0wn · 18/09/2026 10:59

HelloandWelcomeToYou · 18/09/2026 09:22

Not saying this appllies to OP but there's a category of women that are so sensitive to hormones that hrt increases the risk of suicide, self harm and serious mental health issues. Strong bones and reduced dementia are not a concern if you end up in the graveyard. Sadly some of us in that category must choose now over the future. Strong words yes but im fed up with the idea that hrt is the ultimate cure all for 100% of women. I dont go on the hrt board at all as any mention of issues with hrt gets you cancelled.

Yes, to be honest lately it’s felt like the only option left. The only thing stopping me is the children because I don’t want to fuck up their lives even more.
Although, I had an epiphany this morning that as a mid-aged woman society thinks (or I have been trained to think) it’s my responsibility to manage the emotional baggage/regulation of men-the boss at work, the useless ex, the children (all boys). And if I get overwhelmed playing that role it’s on me, not them. I am blamed for not managing how I communicate with the boss on his terms-it’s on me to change the way I talk/approach meetings/send emails because he is senior. My ex has told me to my face it’s my fault he’s got ill (not the actually mental health issues he’s been medically diagnosed) the children tell me when I’ve let them down, or I have been ‘mean’ when I get to attend school daily or haven’t listened in the right way. That’s why I feel I need more female company because men/male company just comes with expectations of what they want from me, not what they can give me.

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TwinklyAmberSloth · 18/09/2026 10:20

UpsideD0wn · 18/09/2026 06:41

Awake since 5am. Feeling sick. I know I can get through work today but another meeting next week with my line manager, I feel nervous about how to defend myself, wondering if I should ask HR to be there.
I genuinely feel like life is about to come crashing down and I’m not strong enough to deal with it. My son hugged me last night while I was crying, I don’t want him to feel he has to look after me. I’ve asked for help from the gp before and had cbt counselling. She said I should stop going to my mum for help because it was almost masiochistic (can’t work out how to spell it) as she would reject me each time so I was stuck in a loop. So I pulled away and keep things light and airy but it feels false not being able to share my anxious thoughts and worries and keeping them bottled up only to spill out as tears and sometimes in fro t of the children. It was a job I enjoyed but they moved me once projects finished and I’m now in an area I struggle with. I don’t want to be too identifying but the hours are good for school so to move I have to accept I can’t be there for the children as much as I am now.

Sorry that things are so tough.

You need to make a few lists. Get some paper.

List 1: Here and Now. Make a list of LITTLE things you can do to be kind to yourself. e.g. go for a walk while listening to music, sit in your car in peace and drink a cup of tea and read a book, go to some sort of class (art, sport, knitting etc...). Watch a film with your kids. Paint your toe nails. Have a long soak in the bath.

List 2: Stuff that needs doing. So laundry. cleaning bathroom, cooking a meal, fixing something that is broken etc...

List 3: Long term goals. Get rid of the ex. Find time for a new hobby, apply for new job etc...

Tick them off as you do them.

Physically write all the above onto three lists, and tick things off as you do them, particularly on lists 1 and 2. It may seem odd, but it is a very satisfying thing to do when life seems really tough. It's good to have achievable goals, particularly ones that will help you.