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To think that Harry and his kids should have security

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Noras · 15/09/2026 12:24

Frankly I don’t want another year of wondering if Harry will attend another event or stay in a palace or will or will not get security etc.

For the sake of our sanity the matter needs to be resolved.

Harry could become a working royal and Meghan could go back to being an actress - they are then both happy

Harry and the kids get protection and Meghan can pay for her own

If Harry and the PoW could make up it would make next year much better ( 30 year anniversary)

Meghan needs to stop trading ( in my opinion) on the memory of Diana ( if it is true she wanted to do a speech re Diana etc) Leave Diana to the boys only.

There are innocent children involved and they do need protecting.

Harry needs to change his attitude and stop fighting the system for the sake of the nations sanity. Meghan has to realise that she upset many of us re the courtesy thing etc and the attack on the POW and POW.

The POW needs to realise that Harry can’t steal his thunder.

Everyone needs to think of King Charles who frankly needs to have a break from all this.

I am not a Meghan supporter or a bot. I just can’t bear another 3 months of frenzied speculation. My head is done in.

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Didimum · 15/09/2026 21:06

Crudd99 · 15/09/2026 19:53

These didn't have security. HAM already have security.

Almost all those people would have had either police or private security at points during the course of their public engagements, performances or events.

Didimum · 15/09/2026 21:02

Rhaidimiddim · 15/09/2026 19:02

But if you are going to state so strongly that they need armed security, you must have thought about it at least a little bit?

If you think they need armed goons - implying you think there's a very real threat to their safety - the need would be 24/7, wouldn't it? Even if the baddies take tea breaks and have the weekends off, they're hardly likely to share their plans ( wittingly, at least) with RAVEC.

No, I haven’t thought about it much at all. Probably they should get the same arrangement as George, Charlotte and Louis, whatever that is – and I believe it should not be disclosed for obvious security reasons.

PantaloonMad · 15/09/2026 21:00

What the hell did I just read 😂😂😂😂😂

AplineDaisies · 15/09/2026 20:59

Of course H and M and their children need security. You cannot compare them Zara Philips or other Royals. The amount of hatred on Mumset towards them is monumental. I can't imagine what some more extreme nutters out there would to them given half the chance.

yorktown · 15/09/2026 20:59

BarbaraUsher · 15/09/2026 12:51

Of course they need security. I’m stunned anyone could think the opposite.

Could they maybe set up a gofundme?

I don't mind if they have security but I'd rather it wasn't publicly funded.

EasternStandard · 15/09/2026 20:58

Somethinggg · 15/09/2026 20:38

It's not comparable.

Anyone who's been PM is going to know state secrets, some of them dirty. We don't want them in a position where they're being threatened with a finger cut off every hour if they don't spill. That's bad for all of us.

I'm not against Charles style security for any family member who's expertly assessed as needing it either, rather than on vague principle, but it won't be for the same reason that Liz Truss actually does require it.

Yes good point.

NotAnotherScarf · 15/09/2026 20:56

I am a massive royalist, love my king and country
But no. They have a job if they want it. To work.for their country. They declined. The country owes them nothing.

The country doesn't pay for david Beckham and his family's security. Nor should we. They chose to be private citizens

Vannin · 15/09/2026 20:52

AlexandraCarrington · 15/09/2026 20:21

He cannot keep a low profile. He’s Prince Harry. Nor can his children.

Of course he can keep a low profile. Every other member of the RF manages it when not carrying out official engagements. Just stay off social media and stop leaking/encouraging friends to leak information to the press.

Yes, why don’t Harry and Meghan stay off Instagram? Why are they repeatedly putting their children who cannot consent to it on the Meta messaging app Instagram?

Holeymoley28 · 15/09/2026 20:40

Do we know that Liz Truss has 24/7 armed security either mind or again is it on a needs basis she might just have normal security much like Harry.

AlexandraCarrington · 15/09/2026 20:39

whether or not he's a working royal, he's at risk.

At risk how? From whom? Why is he at greater risk than Anne and Edward were when they were the children of the monarch, and are now they are the siblings of the monarch?

Somethinggg · 15/09/2026 20:38

laurini · 15/09/2026 20:34

If we're giving Liz Truss lifelong protection, then I think we can extend the same to the King's son, daughter in law and grandchildren, regardless of their career choice.

It's not comparable.

Anyone who's been PM is going to know state secrets, some of them dirty. We don't want them in a position where they're being threatened with a finger cut off every hour if they don't spill. That's bad for all of us.

I'm not against Charles style security for any family member who's expertly assessed as needing it either, rather than on vague principle, but it won't be for the same reason that Liz Truss actually does require it.

laurini · 15/09/2026 20:34

If we're giving Liz Truss lifelong protection, then I think we can extend the same to the King's son, daughter in law and grandchildren, regardless of their career choice.

afishcalledpanda · 15/09/2026 20:33

Agreed OP, son of the king FFS, not something he chose, whether or not he's a working royal, he's at risk.

Somethinggg · 15/09/2026 20:33

Holeymoley28 · 15/09/2026 20:28

I cant believe so many people seem to think he has zero security.

A multimillionaire prince always has some sort of security. He just doesn’t have armed security 24/7 it’s on a as and when needed basis.

They have definitely done a number with the story telling in the papers to convince so many people 😂

I always read comments about him not having security as meaning not the 24/7 all singing all dancing level Charles has, rather than nothing at all. But maybe that's too kind!

Holeymoley28 · 15/09/2026 20:28

I cant believe so many people seem to think he has zero security.

A multimillionaire prince always has some sort of security. He just doesn’t have armed security 24/7 it’s on a as and when needed basis.

They have definitely done a number with the story telling in the papers to convince so many people 😂

JustAnotherWhinger · 15/09/2026 20:27

WildWindySeascape · 15/09/2026 19:53

I think if we are going to have a monarchy in this country then we need to accept that we have to pay for their security, even if they are annoying.

But, we should also demand that the Crown give up its ‘private ownership’ of the sea bed which is allowing them to cash in on wind farms. It’s outrageous that they can treat this as a private asset.

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We do. We automatically pay for the monarch, their spouse, their heir, the heirs spouse and any young children, plus any working royals when it’s required (during engagements).

Harry and Meghan have security as and when, and to the levels, RAVEC deem it necessary.

Not thinking an adult member of the royal family, who isn’t a working royal, should dictate their own level of security needed isn’t the same as saying nobody should have paid for security.

Alternativelyviewed · 15/09/2026 20:26

He is by no fault of his own a senior member of the royal family ,born to one of the most famous /tragic women ever .
Of course he should have security his dad should be paying for keeping his son safe and his grandchildren safe .

JustAnotherWhinger · 15/09/2026 20:24

AI41 · 15/09/2026 20:22

It was nothing to do with the Good Friday Agreement which happened almost 15 years earlier. It was because the princesses security bill was all over the press and no one liked them, and Prince Charles wanted it stopped.

The change in levels of security, after the review, were in huge part because the threat from the IRA no longer existed.

The review was sparked by the press complaints about cost. The reduction in security was made because the threat had changed massively, in large part because of the GFA.

AI41 · 15/09/2026 20:22

JustAnotherWhinger · 15/09/2026 19:50

It’s not really that bizarre when you consider that a major part in the revamp of royal security was the fact that the Good Friday Agreement had been in place for a decent period of time and one of the major threats had been removed.

Royal security was increased considerably in 1979 after the assassination of Mountbatten (as was the security of other high profile figures). There was a whole revamp of how threats were assessed and how the security worked. A similar review was done when the bulk of royals lost their 24/7 security.

It was nothing to do with the Good Friday Agreement which happened almost 15 years earlier. It was because the princesses security bill was all over the press and no one liked them, and Prince Charles wanted it stopped.

AlexandraCarrington · 15/09/2026 20:21

He cannot keep a low profile. He’s Prince Harry. Nor can his children.

Of course he can keep a low profile. Every other member of the RF manages it when not carrying out official engagements. Just stay off social media and stop leaking/encouraging friends to leak information to the press.

Vannin · 15/09/2026 20:17

I think that Harry and Meghan need to keep their children (age 5 and 7) off Instagram (ironically on one of the platforms they criticise - Meta), and stop banging on about them in public. No-one normal needs to know what they look like from the side and the rear, where they are, what type of school they're at, how they're getting there, what their security arrangments are, what the security flaws are, what they smell like, and what they like to do.

IMO Harry and Meghan are being wilfully negligent with their own children's security, and in that I also include the lack of lifejackets, seat restraints and safety helmets as shown on Instagram by their own mother.

The AIBU poll here is interesting - 87% v 13%.

Somethinggg · 15/09/2026 20:16

We certainly shouldn't be providing security on the basis that some people don't like wondering where Harry will live.

RAVEC are the people best placed to make this assessment. If ever they say it's needed, fine. They currently don't, so no thank you we won't be paying for it. I see no reason to assume they're not doing a competent job at keeping the royals safe, since the proof is in the pudding.

And no, Meghan shouldn't be paying for it because having this sort of state backed security for hire is a truly fucking atrocious idea with nothing to recommend it. If she's assessed as needing it by people who are actually qualified to do that, she shouldn't have to pay for it herself anyway.

marlboro · 15/09/2026 20:04

I think the kids deserve security but I voted yabu because why are you so bothered by this?!

fridaynightzzz · 15/09/2026 19:59

Of course Harry can keep a low profile and his children can even more so. Look at Margaret’s children. I hardly knew what Edward’s kids looked like until recently and he’s been a working royal!
They had the perfect opportunity to step back and give their children a quiet life especially when they were young, but they are clearly worth too much not to merch out.

Crudd99 · 15/09/2026 19:53

Didimum · 15/09/2026 15:53

He cannot keep a low profile. He’s Prince Harry. Nor can his children.

Harry is specifically fighting for armed police protection for his children, not any paid for security. He has also offered to cover the cost of armed MET police for the purpose.

It’s not about it happening ‘every day’, it’s about risk. And yes plenty of public figures have been attacked and/or murdered: Jo Cox, Ann Widdecombe, David Amness, Stephen Timms, Jill Dando, Klaudia Zakrzewska, Mark Cavendish, Ashley Cole, Amie Khan, Michelle Keegan, Megan McKenna, Frank Lampard.

Kidnap plots against public figure children: Brooklyn Beckham, Tamara Eccleston.

Is that enough or does only a celebrity a day matter?

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These didn't have security. HAM already have security.

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