To think that Harry and his kids should have security

I agree with you.

I can’t understand why the richest family in Britain struggles with this. They’re fucking skinflints, all of them.

I don’t read anything about Harry and Megan. My opinion is based solely on what children in this amount of public eye should be afforded compared to their counterparts. End of.

Obviously at times roads are closed and the lights come on but that’s for big things generally and events.

I’d assume they have general security as in look at where they live it’s basically in secure compounds that means there is security there all the time. The schools royals and celebs attended again will have some sort of basic security.

Kate was pictured driving the school run, bus up her bum one detail officer as passenger.

Id assume when shopping even then is likely one waiting in her car or also “shopping”.

Just real security blends in on a day to day basis it isn’t closing roads and flashing lights.

So you believe that the working royals should get more security than they do at the moment? It is interesting the range of opinions.

I wonder whether that's really true, but either way he shouldn't be able to because it shouldn't be for sale. To anyone.

If he needs it, we should all pay. If he doesn't, letting him buy it anyway means opening the doors to other people who don't need it also being able to buy it. That's a bad idea.

I think all armed security should be via threat.

General security for working royals and their families.

edit.

And by family I mean those in their direct family as in partner and minor children.

Maybe Meghan should lay off putting her kids on Instagram? They’re just young kids. They can’t consent.

Fair enough. I think you're wrong and have confusedly allowed yourself to get all caught up in the games H and M have been playing.

I'll stop trying to point out facts about the workings of armed security in the UK and let you get on with it.

Not because I think succession to the throne is important, but because they are child who haven’t had the choice to be placed in the contentious life they have been placed in.

But what is the risk to them? That is what RAVEC bases its decisions on, not who they are.

And - again - the thread is about whether we think they should get it. It’s no more simple or complicated than that. Maybe you shouldn’t give it so much head space.

Why?

Yep, I do. Not because I think succession to the throne is important, but because they are child who haven’t had the choice to be placed in the contentious life they have been placed in. And yes, I do think public opinion and media-whipped up frenzy is worse for Harry and Megan, and vis-à-vis their children.

Andrew and his children did get it.

This raises another question. When should Charlotte and Louis’s protection cease? At 18? When George has children? Should they only have it now if they’re with their parents or brother, but not for their own trips to school? It’s all so vague.

I don't look at Meghan's Instagram, I avoid them in the media as far as possible. It's currently difficult to avoid because in the space of a few weeks they've managed to cram in enough drama for several lifetimes

And riled up? I'm trying to point out that in the UK people get armed security because they need it, not because they want it. Which you say you don't think should happen, at the same time as thinking it should happen in the case of H and M.

Who is more recognisable and famous than a man whose wedding was viewed by nearly two billion people, whose father is head of 15 states and whose mother was the most photographed in the world, and who had a prominent role at her funeral
watched by 2.5 billion people?

It’s like done posters feel they’ve been personally slighted by them.

Harry does not want his security to be paid for by the public purse. He wants to be allowed to pay for armed security.

And Andrew, Anne and Edward were the children of a queen and were only getting it when working.
Why is Harry set apart, because of his behaviour?

They won’t want security just for the children. That’s not the point of all this. Harry wants full RAVEC status.

If he wants protection then he needs to pay for it.

There are too many people struggling at the moment to pay for the bare necessities of life so the last thing we should be doing is spending taxpayers money on this pair and their family.

They have more money than most of us can ever dream of yet they want us to pay towards their luxury lifestyle.

I didn’t say they should get it because Harry and Megan want them to. I think they should get it regardless, and the OP asked if we think they should – simple as that. Harry and Megan could say they don’t think they need it tomorrow and I would still think they do.

Maybe lay off Megan’s Insta page for a while if it’s getting you a bit too riled up.

You really think the what 6th and 7th in line have an equal threat level to the 2nd, 3rd and 4th in line?

Unless something bloody terrible happened they are basically irrelevant.

Harry and Meghan can pay for private security like other celebrities, including many far more famous and recognisable than they are.They will get tax payer funded armed security if and when it's deemed necessary by people who actually know about these things, not because Harry is a paranoid mess and M is an attention obsessed narcissist.

If they want armed security 24/7, they should return to the US where anyone can wander around with a gun. Luckily laws are far, far stricter about it in the UK.