To think that Harry and his kids should have security

so you habet got 4 minutes to type a post but you've got 2 minutes to read it and reply? I'm not sure you're that much more time poor than op?

What he wants is IPP status, so that for which ever country he and Meghan go to they get treated as very important people.

However they don’t want to represent the UK. Just seems they want to go in endless jaunts, collect goody bags at events, speak a few “bon mots” here and there, make trite programmes about their indulged lives and sell shite* to make money.

You would hope the children actually get to go to school to be educated and mix socially with other children their age so they develop into normal adjusted adults not spoilt nepo babies only able to live off social media grifting. That they learn to make real friends not false ones for endless “ scratch my back” opportunities.

*by sell shite I’m including books and podcasts

Sorry, but this is simply wrong. The security classification changed because he stopped being a working royal. Publicly funded armed security is only given to working royals. 24 hour publicly funded armed protection was only being received by QEII, C&C, Wales and Sussex families, because they were the only ones classified as needing top tier protection due to risk.

To reiterate, to get 24 hour publicly funded armed protection, you must both be classed as the severest of the risk groups and be a working royal.

Harry’s was removed because he stopped being a working royal, not because of a change in his risk classification.

He moved out of the UK which is when the decision was communicated that security would be looked at on a tailored basis when Harry was on UK soil, but that Harry would no longer have Internationally Protected Person status.

Now he’s back full time, the risks can’t only be considered when he has a trip home. The issue will have to be considered once again.

So they don't think he is now 🤷

He's not representing the crown anymore,so maybe his risk level dropped....

If he needed it, they'd provide it.

The professionals did classify Harry as the highest risk band for security though, along with the Wales family. Harry and family would still be getting it if they hadn’t left. It hasn’t reduced because of a reduction in threat. It’s due to them stepping down as working royals.

If they had been successful in America they wouldn’t be asking for this. We aren’t the standby for his failures.

This !

Bearing in mind a lot of the RF only get protection when they are working and Harry is not a working royal he can go jump

op I suggest you read the posts over on the royal family site lots of good information explaining exactly why this man child and his tantrum throwing wife don’t need security. They need to just shut up and move the quiet life they say they wanted in 2020

Why do you keep incessantly replying to me? I’ve said what I’ve said and it stands. Asking me in myriad different ways won’t change it. Again – go and bother someone else.

It’s a thread asking what people think. People will discuss what they think because there is a thread about it. If everyone agreed with the status quo of everything then there would be no discussion about anything.

Go and bother someone else.

Well what only armed between 9-5? As if the threat is removed after tea time?

They either need armed security or they don't.

Well .... The professionals with security intelligence don't think they are.

Why do you think they are?

I don’t agree they are less at risk. It’s ok though, we can disagree.

But they are provided with armed security. When there is a real threat.

Just not whenever they feel like. When a threat level hits the armed guard level.

They are not on level with the wales children at all. The wales children dad will be king. One of those children will be king and the others siblings to the king.

The Sussex children are lower down the peaking order making them lower risk and will continue to go further down the list once the wales children marry and have children. Other royals and not just ours manage perfectly fine without all this hoohaa.

I do think they are comparable to Wales’ children.

How? The Wales children take part in the public life of the nation, and as they get older will no doubt take part in public life in other Commonwealth countries.

The Sussex children do not. They are private citizens. That was the choice H&M made when they decided to step back from life as working royals.

I said think they should be provided with armed security. Nowhere did I say I 24/7 armed security.

I do think they are comparable to Wales’ children.

Info of their geographical location becoming available is moot. They can’t live in a black hole so it’s of no importance whether it’s known now or later.

hope you pay for it then

Harry’s a plank.
he tells the world at every opportunity that he doesn’t have adequate protection yet can not see how this in itself creates a security risk.
must we fund protection for a person whom constantly risks his own security.
make it make sense please!

They don't work for the government or the royal family, why should their security be paid for by either of those?

They're private citizens and should be paying for their own like other famous private citizens do.

but why? they aren't comparable. Just like Anne's children didn't get armed security..

Harry and family no doubt do have credible threats no doubt and they need security. Which they have.

but do they need 24 hour armed security provided by the state? the state dont; think so, and they know a bit more.

They aren't helping themselves by giving out their personal mobile numbers ... making it INCREDIBLY easy to find out what school their kids go to, not doing due diligence on routes, showing images of where they live, where they're going to be... etc

They until about a month ago were complaining how the family can't live in the uk... but weirdly moved here anyway, with big announcements and fuss. THey could have probalby quietly moved here and the general public would have been none the wiser for a fair amount of time. They got in and out of the UK in the summer with no fuss or bother...

I really think you need to get our more OP if this is the sort of shit keeping you awake at night.

No. My opinion is based on the security privileges afforded to George, Charlotte and Louis.

Because this thread is inviting our opinions. Obviously we don’t make the actual decision.

Driving thought Northumberland earlier in the year I had the thought...

Back in the day H would have landed in Northumberland and rallied an army to move South. He'd have taken Oxford before Christmas, despite the traffic jams.

Maybe that’s the goal of If I can’t have the throne nobody can!!!

Could you imagine this back in the days of killing to be king 😬