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AIBU to be upset after a dog jumped at our baby?

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KellyK2026 · 15/09/2026 12:14

Okay, so myself, DH and baby were at a country park the other week. Baby was getting hungry so we sat ourselves down on a park bench and got some food out. A woman was walking with her family and dog and the dog must’ve smelt the food as it suddenly
comes bounding over and is jumping at baby (who is on DH knee) to get the food. We don’t know this dog and don’t know what it's capable of. I scream at the owner that we have a baby and to get her dog under control. At this point, she’s pretty far away and is taking her time to come over. My DH then kicks the dog to get it off them as it just will not stop. The woman wasn’t particularly apologetic and seemed shocked. Did we overreact?

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Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:12

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:10

Because you’re using a lot of ‘what-if-isms’ that aren’t relevant. What if the dog was trained? So, what if it wasn’t? It’s ridiculous. The owner didn’t shout ‘oh don’t worry, he’s friendly’. She didn’t make excuses. She didn’t say he normally doesn't jump up. You’re making excuses for a dog when 1. You didn’t see how out of control it was, and 2. You don’t know the dog or its owner. You’re just desperate to try and prove a point, that it was trained and reacted in a way that was out of its character, which is unprovable unless you were the owner of the dog and know its history.

No I'm challenging the assumption that less than perfect behaviour at all times = untrained dog, shit owner, and dog must be restrained always.

Thats disproportionate and an unacceptable - cruel attitude towards animals that needs to be called out.

Nearly50omg · 16/09/2026 09:13

Monty36 · 15/09/2026 13:32

The dog should have been on a lead. It should respond to recall and not jump up. All of that.
But, a spaniel. I think they are more likely to lick you to death.
Your husband kicking the dog does seems like an overreaction to me. Before a firm ‘no’ , standing up and trying to get him off.
In your situation I would have dropped the baby bag too. And taken the baby. So your husband can try to restrain the dog. More important than the bag.

Spaniels are well known breeds that bite and are aggressive! They aren’t all lonely little coochy coos! 🙄

Melsy88 · 16/09/2026 09:13

CornerShoes · 16/09/2026 08:18

A lot of decent dog owners here support the OP. It says something about the kind of owner you are.

If owners like you truly cared about your dogs, you would train them, keep them on lead and protect them by ensuring they don’t jump up at random people. If you let your dog run riot, you are being cruel to your pet.

I said the dog owner was in the wrong and I don't agree with kicking a friendly dog if there is a better option. If that makes me a bad dog owner, then I'm a proud bad dog owner !

concertinacornflake · 16/09/2026 09:14

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 08:21

This is absurdly black-and-white. A dog briefly approaching someone in the hope of food does not automatically mean it is dangerous, out of control or owned by a “shit owner”. It means it is a dog, not a robot.

No dog is perfectly trained in every situation, just as no child or adult behaves impeccably at all times.

Responsible ownership means knowing your dog, managing genuine risks and responding appropriately when it gets something wrong—not keeping every dog permanently restrained because anything short of 100% obedience is treated as proof of negligence.

Proportion and context really aren’t complicated either.

Edited

The owner should always have control of the dog.

A dog that has unpredictable behaviours should be on a lead around people.

MiggyWoods · 16/09/2026 09:15

Either the OP or her husband could have moved their baby out of the way of the dog, if they were that concerned about it.
But they weren’t. They both chose to remain seated at the bench, because they were more concerned about the dog getting to their food.
He didn’t kick the dog because he was trying to protect his wife and baby, he kicked the dog because it was pissing him off

It amuses me how people present the scene as if they were actually there and saw it. It all happened in seconds. How does anybody know what OP and her husband could/should have done? What they were or were not concerned about? Why the husband kicked the dog? Nobody here even saw it, let alone knows what was going on in his head.

People who want to defend badly behaved dogs and owners will manipulate the facts to fault the op and her husband, and people who are sick to the back teeth of careless and useless dog owners will see it in a more realistic fashion. Fortunately common sense comes out on top by 82%

Vivi0 · 16/09/2026 09:15

CornerShoes · 16/09/2026 08:00

The dickhead owner letting the dog run up at randoms is the cruel one abusing the animal she probably claims to love.

I don’t think you quite know what abuse means.

Sereine · 16/09/2026 09:16

Hellohelga · 15/09/2026 14:24

Even so. Just stand up and say shoo is generally enough. Screaming and kicking is an overreaction. Some people are so highly strung nowadays.

What utter nonsense. Dogs don't instantly obey if some random person says "Shoo" to them. They especially don't if they're already jumping around and excited by food being in the vicinity.

concertinacornflake · 16/09/2026 09:17

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:12

No I'm challenging the assumption that less than perfect behaviour at all times = untrained dog, shit owner, and dog must be restrained always.

Thats disproportionate and an unacceptable - cruel attitude towards animals that needs to be called out.

If another person is approached by an off-lead dog, that is always due to a bad owner.permitting it. A dog should ignore people consistently or be on a lead when around people.

Thats what being under control means.

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:18

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:12

No I'm challenging the assumption that less than perfect behaviour at all times = untrained dog, shit owner, and dog must be restrained always.

Thats disproportionate and an unacceptable - cruel attitude towards animals that needs to be called out.

She was a shit owner for not reacting quickly where she could’ve, knowing her dog and having resources (like a lead), de-escalated the situation by quickly putting it on a lead and getting it away from our baby.

And where the hell have I said anything less than perfect dog behaviour means that an owner is shit? You’re projecting a lot. If the dog came over and licked our food, that’s not perfect dog behaviour, but I certainly wouldn’t feel threatened by it. If a dog came over to look at our baby or sniff us (which has happened a lot) I wouldn’t be bothered. This dog was out of control. It’s not about not being perfect, it’s about the fact that throwing its weight around at an infant is dangerous. There’s a big difference between less than perfect and dangerous.

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Vivi0 · 16/09/2026 09:18

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 08:28

The dog didn’t just briefly approach us. That’s what you’re not understanding. This dog was out of control and could’ve seriously hurt my
baby by throwing its 80lb weight at an infant. How you do not understand the risk of that is baffling.

Nothing you have said indicates that the dog was “out of control”.

MintyElephant · 16/09/2026 09:19

Absolutely not unreasonable. Babies and children need to be protected from dogs as you never know how they will react. All fair and well for an owner to say ‘my dog will never hurt anyone’ but you honestly never know, especially around food like you said, may have accidentally bit your baby trying to get food. The dog shouldn’t have been so far away from their owner and the owner should have reacted quick enough to get the dog away without your husband having to then kick the dog away.

WhatNoRaisins · 16/09/2026 09:20

Dogs shouldn't be putting their paws on babies. Even if it's a baby within the same household I thought that you were always supposed to very closely supervise any contact between dogs and younger children.

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:20

Vivi0 · 16/09/2026 09:18

Nothing you have said indicates that the dog was “out of control”.

Really? Then that worries me that you think an 80lb dog leaping up at an infant isn’t dangerous.

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Sereine · 16/09/2026 09:20

Vivi0 · 15/09/2026 18:21

Protecting them from what?

Either the OP or her husband could have moved their baby out of the way of the dog, if they were that concerned about it.

But they weren’t. They both chose to remain seated at the bench, because they were more concerned about the dog getting to their food.

He didn’t kick the dog because he was trying to protect his wife and baby, he kicked the dog because it was pissing him off.

It's been pointed out that it wouldn't have been easy for OP's husband to stand up as he was sitting astride the bench and holding the baby. He would be unbalanced by holding the baby, and further unbalanced by having to swing one leg over the bench. Put a dog jumping up at him into the mix, and it's a recipe for trouble.

And why should he have to? if the dog had been on a lead or responsive to being called, there would be no problem. He was perfectly entitled to do whatever was needed to get rid of the stupid mutt.

MiggyWoods · 16/09/2026 09:21

Blaming a family that is having food at a family picnic area for the behaviour of a stranger’s dog is wild. And, actually, you’re trivialising how serious it could’ve been

Most people responding can see that. There are some dog people that just can't or won't.

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:24

concertinacornflake · 16/09/2026 09:14

The owner should always have control of the dog.

A dog that has unpredictable behaviours should be on a lead around people.

i find your attitude towards animals unrealistic, disproportionate and unecessarily cruel so we will have to agree we have different values and leave it there..

concertinacornflake · 16/09/2026 09:25

Vivi0 · 16/09/2026 09:18

Nothing you have said indicates that the dog was “out of control”.

The dog was not under control.

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:26

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:18

She was a shit owner for not reacting quickly where she could’ve, knowing her dog and having resources (like a lead), de-escalated the situation by quickly putting it on a lead and getting it away from our baby.

And where the hell have I said anything less than perfect dog behaviour means that an owner is shit? You’re projecting a lot. If the dog came over and licked our food, that’s not perfect dog behaviour, but I certainly wouldn’t feel threatened by it. If a dog came over to look at our baby or sniff us (which has happened a lot) I wouldn’t be bothered. This dog was out of control. It’s not about not being perfect, it’s about the fact that throwing its weight around at an infant is dangerous. There’s a big difference between less than perfect and dangerous.

Thank you for acknowledging that even gentle, well behaved, well trained animals can be less than perfect in their behaviour sometimes, because animals are not robots.

I will leave it there.

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:27

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:24

i find your attitude towards animals unrealistic, disproportionate and unecessarily cruel so we will have to agree we have different values and leave it there..

How can you find that statement cruel? It’s cruel to not put your dog on a lead if it has unpredictable behaviours because it just may jump up at the wrong person and find out the hard way. That’s the risk you’re taking. There are designated dog parks for that reason and reasonable owners take their dogs there if their dogs have unpredictable behaviours.

OP posts:
KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:28

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:26

Thank you for acknowledging that even gentle, well behaved, well trained animals can be less than perfect in their behaviour sometimes, because animals are not robots.

I will leave it there.

I absolutely never said that a dog has to be perfect, that was entirely you. This dog acted dangerously, there’s no way to defend it. It leaped at an infant multiple times.

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Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:30

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:27

How can you find that statement cruel? It’s cruel to not put your dog on a lead if it has unpredictable behaviours because it just may jump up at the wrong person and find out the hard way. That’s the risk you’re taking. There are designated dog parks for that reason and reasonable owners take their dogs there if their dogs have unpredictable behaviours.

Edited

Because all animals have unpredictable behaviours on occasion because that is the nature of being an animal not a robot.

To fail to recognised that, and to demand disproportionate preventative universal measures that have serious impacts on animal welfare, just because animals can sometimes behave in unpredictable and undesirable ways , is cruel and displays a totally objectifying , dismissive, careless , intolerant and inhumane attitude towards animals.

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:31

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:28

I absolutely never said that a dog has to be perfect, that was entirely you. This dog acted dangerously, there’s no way to defend it. It leaped at an infant multiple times.

I absolutely never said that a dog has to be perfect

then it must have been my misunderstanding.

KellyK2026 · 16/09/2026 09:35

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:30

Because all animals have unpredictable behaviours on occasion because that is the nature of being an animal not a robot.

To fail to recognised that, and to demand disproportionate preventative universal measures that have serious impacts on animal welfare, just because animals can sometimes behave in unpredictable and undesirable ways , is cruel and displays a totally objectifying , dismissive, careless , intolerant and inhumane attitude towards animals.

I totally disagree. As many people have commented on this Thread, they know their dog’s behaviour can be unpredictable so they take reasonable measures. But, again, the law doesn’t protect dogs the same way it protects children and adults. So you’re taking a huge risk that’s irresponsible if you don’t put measures in place. Yes there may be a rare instance when a dog acts out of character, but most owners know if they have a dog that chases, jumps up or even bites.

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thehound4 · 16/09/2026 09:37

Lacksie · 16/09/2026 09:24

i find your attitude towards animals unrealistic, disproportionate and unecessarily cruel so we will have to agree we have different values and leave it there..

Your attitude is utterly selfish and entitled. Why does a dogs comfort trump the comfort and safety of a baby?

WhatNoRaisins · 16/09/2026 09:39

Surely it's for the owner to work out if they can meet a particular dog breeds needs. Don't people take into account where they live and how much time they can commit to walking a dog before choosing what sort of dog to get?

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