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To not really fancy a "winter of hardship to beat Putin"

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CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:31

I would rather he had various bits of Ukraine than I have a winter of hardship I don't really care about Ukraine (and I think at least some people in said various bits would like to join Russia anyway, who am I to stop them)

Why do we have to keep getting involved in far away stuff

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr4en2ylz8o

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frozendaisy · 13/09/2026 19:47

You might have to pay more for your gas bill @CurdinHenry
So you can keep your nice little life

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:47

TallSturdyGirls · 13/09/2026 19:46

I care because anyone going through war should be cared for. I also care for the 250,000 Russians killed in the conflict because they have had propaganda fed to them, for decades. I also care about people in North Korea, South Sudan, Tibet, Myanmar, Gaza and Syria.
On a purely selfish reason Putin winning in Ukraine will embolden him further. Having allies in the US and China should be worrying for anyone in the UK. Russia has blatantly and is blatantly trying to destabilise the EU for obvious reasons. The fact that he is close to Farage( and Johnson) should also be worrying as having any foreign interest interfere in our national politics should always be a case for concern.

There are multiple wars around the world at any given moment. I bet you can't name more than one other one.

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TallSturdyGirls · 13/09/2026 19:48

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:47

There are multiple wars around the world at any given moment. I bet you can't name more than one other one.

I literally did in my post! I think you are a Bot or a bit hard of botting.

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:48

frozendaisy · 13/09/2026 19:47

You might have to pay more for your gas bill @CurdinHenry
So you can keep your nice little life

Plenty of businesses and people will be unable to pay, which brings poverty and strife to my door even if I can keep paying

For no reason except that it's British government policy

Putin is no more an enemy to me than Trump (and no less but we aren't sanctioning the US are we)

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AgileMentor · 13/09/2026 19:49

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:34

Where else do you care about? Why is Ukraine a big heartbreak for you Vs all the other places on the planet?

She hasn’t mentioned any other places because your thread is in regards to Ukraine 🤡

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:50

TallSturdyGirls · 13/09/2026 19:48

I literally did in my post! I think you are a Bot or a bit hard of botting.

I think you are either grimly obedient or one of the low paid civil servants civil servants recruited to Be Enthusiastic on this topic online

I still don't care about Ukraine xx

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smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:50

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:47

There are multiple wars around the world at any given moment. I bet you can't name more than one other one.

Nah, I only care about what's happening in Europe thanks. Putin is a thorn in the side of the planet. Sooner he's gone the better.

Sideorderofchips · 13/09/2026 19:50

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:48

Plenty of businesses and people will be unable to pay, which brings poverty and strife to my door even if I can keep paying

For no reason except that it's British government policy

Putin is no more an enemy to me than Trump (and no less but we aren't sanctioning the US are we)

Is this satire? Is anyone this ridiculous really?

Do you think Putin would stop at Ukraine. He doesnt have to invade other countries to attack

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:51

smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:50

Nah, I only care about what's happening in Europe thanks. Putin is a thorn in the side of the planet. Sooner he's gone the better.

And Trump? Bet you're still accessing this web page via an American company

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smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:51

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:51

And Trump? Bet you're still accessing this web page via an American company

I'm not actually.

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:51

Sideorderofchips · 13/09/2026 19:50

Is this satire? Is anyone this ridiculous really?

Do you think Putin would stop at Ukraine. He doesnt have to invade other countries to attack

People I know are going to die because of Donald trump's policies

I don't know anyone who will die because of Putin's

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CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:52

smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:51

I'm not actually.

Sure, Jan

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smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:52

Trump is Putin's lapdog.

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/09/2026 19:53

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:50

I think you are either grimly obedient or one of the low paid civil servants civil servants recruited to Be Enthusiastic on this topic online

I still don't care about Ukraine xx

Edited

Now you've really lost the plot.

smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:54

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:52

Sure, Jan

Oh, so edgy, so 2000s 😂

Are you a Russian bot by any chance?

smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:55

Do you think they get spanked if they fail their remit?

Ooo Matron! 😂

moonraker0 · 13/09/2026 19:55

smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:50

Nah, I only care about what's happening in Europe thanks. Putin is a thorn in the side of the planet. Sooner he's gone the better.

I’m more worried about what happens in the Middle East tbh. It always has more consequences for the rest of the world.

AgileMentor · 13/09/2026 19:55

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/09/2026 19:53

Now you've really lost the plot.

She sounds absolutely bat shit

smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:57

moonraker0 · 13/09/2026 19:55

I’m more worried about what happens in the Middle East tbh. It always has more consequences for the rest of the world.

ME been at it my whole lifetime. Nothing ever changes..I feel sorry for the Ukrainian people and sorry for us that Putrid tries to interfere with our country.

smallglassbottle · 13/09/2026 19:59

Where's it gone? Did the fly zapper get it?

Somethinggg · 13/09/2026 20:00

We're involved whether we like it or not, and giving Putin Ukraine so he behaves himself without any further impact on you is not amongst the choices you have. It is what it is.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 13/09/2026 20:01

We aren't reliant on Russian gas in the UK so I've no idea why it should be a "hard winter" in terms of energy supply.

WhereYouLeftIt · 13/09/2026 20:01

CurdinHenry · 13/09/2026 19:35

I don't think he'll invade the UK so... I don't really care tbh

So you don't care that Russian subs are mapping out our undersea cables, which can only be to interfere with them at some future point?

So you don't care that Russia is involved in the people-trafficking of illegal migrants to the UK?

So you don't care that Russia is involved / facilitates the cyberattacks on UK organisations and drone incursions at airports?

Putin doesn't have to carry out a full-scale invasion of the UK to fuck us up. Being an island may offer some protection from physical invasion, but it makes our supply lines vulnerable (e.g. we don't produce enough food to feed ourselves). And given how far modern drones can now travel and how difficult they are to stop, being an island offers no protection at all.

We are already at war with Russia, just not a conventional open war. The Cold War never really stopped, and now we're in a Hybrid War, where we are attacked by non-military tactics to weaken us.

You claim to "not really fancy a "winter of hardship to beat Putin" ". How hard do you think winter will be if he launches deniable cyberattacks on power stations, hospitals, banks, air traffic control? Abandoning Ukraine wouldn't stop him doing that, you do realise that?

Wake the fuck up.

Owninterpreter · 13/09/2026 20:04

DeftGoldHedgehog · 13/09/2026 20:01

We aren't reliant on Russian gas in the UK so I've no idea why it should be a "hard winter" in terms of energy supply.

I think its because people that are using it want to switch suppy and it will push the price up as there's more demand.

Zapx · 13/09/2026 20:06

We made a treaty we would defend them. As much as it’s easier to not get involved, we said we would, so we should.