25 Years on from the biggest terrorist attack and Iran still funding proxies

This !

Another day another shit stirring hate filled rant on mumsnet, I commented the same on another similar thread yesterday - that thread wss deleted thankfully.

I agree OP but the appeasing left, as you can see, will be more worried about racism than all those innocent people killed. They really are ignorant about what's happening and as for saying the USA is more of a threat to us!

I saw some awful comments on Facebook yesterday about who was really behind 9/11. It wasn't the US this time, it was the most persecuted people in history who had carried out the attack. Sick fucks. I'm glad I don't know anyone who can see how the Iran regime plays out on its own people - never mind anyone else - and still support them.

Why do so many on the left immediately resort to making petty insults about someone’s intelligence when they have nothing better to contribute?

How many times does it happen, not just on MN and proves they are just intolerant.

I did contribute. I explained why the specious ThEy HaTe OuR fReEdOm thing was wrong and that the motivation for the attacks was the perceived unwanted intervention by the West in the Middle East.

That was then taken as me somehow excusing the attacks which is ridiculous and offensive so I pointed that out.

But as you raised the point about contributions to this thread, other than your two comments trying to crowbar left v right politics into a debate about international terrorism, what have you contributed to this thread?

Perhaps if the current POTUS hadn't fucked around and got the US into a position where Iran can fuck the West's economies and the USA can do sod all about it (re-name Hormuz as "the Straights of America" perhaps?), things might be different.

The USA is fast running out of friends (Israel excepted - for all the good they are) and China is watching and waiting.

Yeah. It's playbook stuff.

I saw the thread, and I was not going to post going by the title alone, respect for the dead and the date etc. But then I read below the title, and I see things claimed that look factually wrong. So I post seeking clarification, as did yourself. Then the accusation of "lefties support terrorism", reply, and then the accusations of the "left are intolerant"

Happens all the time. Instead of, as you say, addressing the points raised.

And I daresay if I ask how some posters manage to identify a "lefty" from a few lines of text, I will maybe be accused of being " an intellectual" or something like that. Next it will be left elite or whatever, and it's into a whole new "Reform" type thread. Clash of cultures etc.

And potentially, we are in a situation there 9/11 is being used by people with some other thing in mind.

And what other thing would that be?

Oh I think we know. It's the usual lazy go to accusation when they want to shut down discussion on this topic. As for the left and right not being relevant - it's always pertinent in political and warfare narrative.

You talk about 9-11, lambast Iran and others.

Yet you didn't in your opening post, condemn the actual perpetrators of 9-11 - the Saudi's and their abhorrent Wahabi / Sunni pseudo Islam doctrine.

So if you want to commemorate 9-11 you might also start with recognising that it wasn't Iran, but the Saudi's who did it.

(For clarity, I condemn ALL terror attacks, no matter who is responsible).

She's not just talking about Iranians in her OP.

OP is remembering 9-11.

I merely reminded the OP of the perpetrators of that day. The majority were from Saudi Wahabi Arabia.

There are indeed many people in Iran and elsewhere who wish to destroy democracy.

Unfortunately for them, it looks like Trump might get there first.

So while you're calling people racist, you're calling terrorists freedom fighters. I wouldn't be trying to take the moral high ground and your other post has been reported.

Well I don't think the woman shot in the back with an AK rifle was feeling privileged. Another Iranian murder for made up adultery charges.

Anyone with an ounce of decency wouldn't be talking about freedom fighters in association with a huge scale terrorist attack.

Sure, sure. It's much more democratic to put men in women's prisons so they have free access to raping female prisoners. Or to create elaborate pedophile networks on a private island where your princes and prime ministers and presidents can sacrifice babies, traffick children, rape children, rape women, pay the raped women off to shut them up...oh, and let men get away with abandoning their own children so they have to be raised by random men. Very democratic.

The UK has a democracy. That's a good starting point away from a brutal theocracy.