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"How do black people feel? How do brown people feel? How do cripples feel? How do fat people feel?"

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Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters

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HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 11:58

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 11:57

Nope. Not buying it. No-one I know thinks that word (cripple) is OK when describing someone who is disabled. Keep rooting for tenuous links to 'prove your point' though @HotGrapefruit (Thinking you have won the argument with a Wikipedia link! LMFAO! 😂)

I also stand by what I say, you don't get to tell other people they are not allowed to be offended by it. I think it's a horrible word to call someone who is disabled. You don't get to tell me I am wrong.

Not shocked to hear you are a fangirl of Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown though.

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Edited

I'm not remotely 'a fan' of Brown or Davidson, but I have certainly followed their careers as I am fascinated by their popularity (as, I think, we all should be).

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 12:00

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PansyZer · 08/09/2026 12:00

Gloriia · 08/09/2026 08:08

No it's because she asked a black man 'what are you??' and then went on to dig a deeper hole with more offensive langauge.

And TOLD him "Well, you’re a mix, aren’t you? So you’ve got a Black daddy and a white mummy.”

TOLD him, live on air, the ethnicities/races of his parents.

That she was wrong about anyway!

Absolutely disgraceful excuse for a human being, and I'm glad it's out there now. People know what she is.

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 12:03

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I grew up in the area and being assaulted by travelling celebs like these was part of the summer work for myself and lots of teenage girls at the time. I think enough said on that point?

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 12:04

We can all play 'the link' game @HotGrapefruit except mine holds a lot more weight and credibility than yours.

Guidelines from the Government that state cripple is a VERY derogatory term to describe someone disabled.

I really hope you don't have a job because you will get the sack if you carry on using that word because YOU are not offended by it.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/inclusive-communication/inclusive-language-words-to-use-and-avoid-when-writing-about-disability

CherryKerry · 08/09/2026 12:11

She reminds me of my MIL at that age which in hindsight was the beginnings of mixed dementia removing her filter. E g making a loud comment in a cafe that "people like that shouldn't be in here" about a well known lovely local lad with learning difficulties who tended to be a bit noisy.

ginasevern · 08/09/2026 12:13

@Gloriia "For some reason whilst yes many of us are appalled by her offensive crap she seems to get away it because she's a fat, woke leftie."

She's very far from "woke"!

Magicpaintbrush · 08/09/2026 12:15

She knows exactly what she is doing. She sets out to shock because it amuses her. Programmes keep bringing her on precisely because they know she's a loose canon and she is a talking point. I don't think she could be cancelled, she would just keep popping up everywhere. I don't think she would give a shit even if she was.

Magicpaintbrush · 08/09/2026 12:16

I knew she was batshit when I watched her Australia programme and she ate a whole raw onion for breakfast the way you would eat an apple - apparently a regular habit. The breath!!!

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 12:19

Magicpaintbrush · 08/09/2026 12:16

I knew she was batshit when I watched her Australia programme and she ate a whole raw onion for breakfast the way you would eat an apple - apparently a regular habit. The breath!!!

Yes she eats onions like apples she was on something where she was in Japan with other elderly celebs and she was doing it then, I am sure she is just obnoxious for the attention and thrill !

MajorSamanthaCarter · 08/09/2026 12:20

Magicpaintbrush · 08/09/2026 12:16

I knew she was batshit when I watched her Australia programme and she ate a whole raw onion for breakfast the way you would eat an apple - apparently a regular habit. The breath!!!

I have acid reflux just thinking about it!

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 12:20

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 12:04

We can all play 'the link' game @HotGrapefruit except mine holds a lot more weight and credibility than yours.

Guidelines from the Government that state cripple is a VERY derogatory term to describe someone disabled.

I really hope you don't have a job because you will get the sack if you carry on using that word because YOU are not offended by it.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/inclusive-communication/inclusive-language-words-to-use-and-avoid-when-writing-about-disability

Of course you wouldn't use it at work - it's a self-describing label that some disabled people are re-claiming for themselves, because it is offensive. It's not a politically correct term to use.

Minoritised groups often reclaim offensive words to take back power. This has a long history.

Marellain · 08/09/2026 12:22

Æthelred · 08/09/2026 10:26

Even in Saddam's Iraq, the elderly could speak their minds without fear - they just didn't do it on national TV.

This woman shouldn't be persecuted but she shouldn't be on TV.

I am amazed anyone cares what she’s saying, tbf. Why are y’all so invested in Miriam margolyes all of a sudden?!?!

YourAmplePlumPoster · 08/09/2026 12:27

Looks like she's keeping the spirit of Liddlr alive.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 08/09/2026 12:29

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 12:20

Of course you wouldn't use it at work - it's a self-describing label that some disabled people are re-claiming for themselves, because it is offensive. It's not a politically correct term to use.

Minoritised groups often reclaim offensive words to take back power. This has a long history.

Julie Burchill describes herself as a cripple.

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 12:29

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 12:20

Of course you wouldn't use it at work - it's a self-describing label that some disabled people are re-claiming for themselves, because it is offensive. It's not a politically correct term to use.

Minoritised groups often reclaim offensive words to take back power. This has a long history.

Or maybe you have just reclaimed it for yourself ! I agree groups of people might reclaim words for each other amongst their peers etc etc. That doesn't mean it is for general use or discussion. If Miriam Margolyes personally referred to me as a "cripple" to try and relate she would get an earful, i am in a group for women with my specific disability we are not all calling each other cripples.

Gloriia · 08/09/2026 12:29

Marellain · 08/09/2026 12:22

I am amazed anyone cares what she’s saying, tbf. Why are y’all so invested in Miriam margolyes all of a sudden?!?!

She's been on the telly being a racist, offensive gf. Do keep up Grin

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 12:30

YourAmplePlumPoster · 08/09/2026 12:29

Julie Burchill describes herself as a cripple.

Julie Birchill will say anything to be seen as edgy !

AstonCanKissMyArse · 08/09/2026 12:37

TheFairyCaravan · 07/09/2026 23:55

She’s a nasty old hag. How she hasn’t been cancelled is beyond me.

Woah, no need for the raging ageism and sexism.

Criticise her for what she says if you like.

Ponoka7 · 08/09/2026 12:47

"When you see someone, of course, you know they’re Black. I wanted to know what he thought about it because that’s what interests me. How do Black people feel? How do brown people feel? How do fat people feel?”"
"All of us feel something about who we are and how people see us, what they think of us. I am fascinated by other people. They are the people that interest me, not the celebrities so much.
“It’s everybody. What their story is, what made them who they are, why you are the way you are.”"
MM reminds me of my sister, 70, who has neurological issues going on. I'm not keen on MM. Lots of assumptions are made about celebrities, the clips of Cillian Murphy handling them are worth a watch on YouTube. It shouldn't be done, but it is. I don't find the Graham Norton show funny, ir particularly entertaining, it has a undertone that I can't get passed. However I'm not seeing what MM said this time as really problematic.

Warmlight1 · 08/09/2026 12:51

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That is shocking. Absolutely shocking.

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 12:54

JHound · 08/09/2026 11:35

So why not just say “Nigeria”?

Although that still does not change that your entire post was batshit and inaccurate. Off topic too.

Edited

Nothing inaccurate about my post HTH

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 12:58

Ponoka7 · 08/09/2026 12:47

"When you see someone, of course, you know they’re Black. I wanted to know what he thought about it because that’s what interests me. How do Black people feel? How do brown people feel? How do fat people feel?”"
"All of us feel something about who we are and how people see us, what they think of us. I am fascinated by other people. They are the people that interest me, not the celebrities so much.
“It’s everybody. What their story is, what made them who they are, why you are the way you are.”"
MM reminds me of my sister, 70, who has neurological issues going on. I'm not keen on MM. Lots of assumptions are made about celebrities, the clips of Cillian Murphy handling them are worth a watch on YouTube. It shouldn't be done, but it is. I don't find the Graham Norton show funny, ir particularly entertaining, it has a undertone that I can't get passed. However I'm not seeing what MM said this time as really problematic.

Miriam was on TV to talk about her book not interrogate the hosts about "what they are" out of the blue then question their race as if she knew better. Showing interest in people is fine, if it is in context, interrupting someone trying to do their job so you can go off on a racist inappeopriate tangent isn't fine.

EuripidesTrousersEumenidesTrousers · 08/09/2026 13:14

Oh gosh, I didn't know this was still rumbling on. She'd really hate me i.e. a fat cripple who has a condition she (given what a pp has said) probably thinks is made up. 🙄

Such a shame, she always seemed pretty likeable I thought.

UnctuousUnicorns · 08/09/2026 13:14

Warmlight1 · 08/09/2026 12:51

That is shocking. Absolutely shocking.

I no expert, but I believe the study of anthropology has a distinctly ugly history.