To think the “red flag” documentaries should be played at school

Or parents could parent and discuss these things at home.

That's assuming the young people have parents that treat each other with respect and that one of them isn't abusing the other. There is a lot to be said about having parents as decent role models.

How many times have we read about abusive relationships on here from women who haven't had a decent relationship modelled to them by parents? Far too many. These women don't know how to recognise red flags because that is their norm.

I think it starts at home at the most important factor is how you see your mother being treated by your father.

I agree with this ^^ @Thepeopleversuswork

It should be taught in a professional setting such as school so yes I agree with the poster.

I would 100% support this. I have 2 teenagers daughters and I am always giving advice even about men. Young Girls / women are naive and do not know the things we older ladies do but we learnt the hard way. As the schools are unlikely to start doing this you can make sure your daughters watch this at home.

So you think they shouldn’t learn about the basics of sex and relationships in primary school but they should learn about abusive relationships?? How could they possibly grasp that if they don’t even know what sex is?!

Were you ok with them learning about inappropriate things like sex at the primary school age?

It isn't inappropriate to learn about sex in primary school

I know… utterly bizarre

This is year 6 the Op is talking about
The next year heading off to secondary school
a basic biology lesson about sex is absolutely the right thing

whereas the Op wants to skip the biology lesson and go straight to a red flag documentary (where presumably sex features!)

I think your phrasing was unfortunate OP because people have taken it to mean low levels of general education predispose women to abuse (which in fairness, they do as education increases options and power and lack of increases vulnerability) however, I think what you're saying is uneducated on the red flags of abuse?
I agree with you that it's important for young people to be aware. I also think the school environment is a good place for this to happen rather than relying on the varying knowledge of individual parents.
I also agree that it's a serious problem that has been referred to as an epidemic and, as I heard Jess Philips say when she was responsible for this area, it's 'trending young'. So I'm supportive of preventative measures.
I haven't seen these documentaries so can't comment on whether they're the best tools. But I definitely support the principle.

We need to watch out for the ‘Be Kind ‘ message too directed at our girls and ensure that they understand that their safety and wellbeing comes first above the prioritisation of male ego and wishes.

Much of media and the education system gives girls the impression that they need to bend to men’s wishes and desires instead of concentrating on their own wishes and preferences.

Of course 11 year olds need to know about sex. 11 year old girls frequently are menstruating. 11 year old boys get erections and can ejaculate. Why on earth WOULDN'T you educate them about sex?

Yes, in an ideal World. But we don't live in an ideal World and however much you "tell" men not to rape and abuse women, some will still do it. We can't police the entire World, so even if somehow we managed to "educate" men in the UK, we can do nothing about the billions brought up elsewhere in less enlightened countries. There's only so much we could achieve by education. Some people will never be "trained" not to abuse women. We NEED policing, punishments etc too. People are brought up not to murder, but some still do it.

Because not all abuse is related to sex/rape etc. What about emotional abuse? What about boys who are "abusing" girls without having sex, i.e. love bombing, bullying, and all other forms of abuse short of sex.

Observing your parents is fine if they have a healthy/respectful relationship as the kids will likely grow up to have healthy/respectful relationships.

But what if it's a single parent household? What if the parents' relationship is abusive - then the kids grow up with no concept of what a healthy/respectful relationship looks likes. It's why kids need to be "taught" elsewhere, just in case they're not getting the right advice at home.

indeed

but if you are going to teach then about red flags it would be a glaring omission not to include sex… wouldn’t you agree?

But the Op would have it they’d never been taught a biology lesson about sex before have a red flag documentary shoved in their faces

I have not seen the documentaries.

My dad loved my mum and treated her like a queen.

In return my mother abused me in what would now be classified as coercive control. She controlled me financially, when we moved to a new area she cut off contact with the relatives she felt 'beneath her' (I was 9 when we moved).

This was all pre internet. I knew I wasn't happy but I had no idea it was a form of abuse.