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Why are my children always the ones crying and miserable at birthday parties?

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Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 18:31

Honestly, what am I doing wrong? Always the ones crying and screaming when we leave. I give them count downs etc, I try to be patient and calm but they are always crying when it's time to go home and I honestly can't take it anymore. My 7 year old has always been like this, it just honestly has ground me down so much over the years. I dread going to them. What am I actually doing wrong because all the other kids seem to handle it fine? I know that the other kids have their off days but mine seem to have an off day every single bloody party.

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Floppyearedlab · Yesterday 23:45

Have you ever told her when you get the invitation ‘if you don’t behave nicely at the party AND when it is tome to leave’ you won’t be going to the next party? And following it through.
7 is way too old for this nonsense at home time. Sounds like 4 year old behaviour.

SmolTiny · Yesterday 23:32

Sounds like ADHD, autism or both.

RuddyLongCovid · Yesterday 23:31

Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 22:46

Just curious how old was she when she was diagnosed?

Seven x

Movingonup313 · Yesterday 23:30

Couple of suggestions
. Someone someone else to bring her out of the venue to meet you e.g 100m away
someone from the party drops her home

  • stay until last until even party family leave
  • do role play with dolls/toy/lego and mimic mum picking child up - where dd plays the mum and see if she can demonstrate how she might like to be picked up

We stopped the multi-fam playdate - too many kids touching her stuff at once - nope (i got it, wouldnt want them in about all my stuff)

  • tell her best behaved to leave gets the best party bag (?) Or if we leave nicely we might be invited to more parties.... tricky one if possible mighf not be any more parties and that will stick in her mind. Also possibly too big an ask if she simply Cannot manage her big emotions yet.

Also cutting back on red and yellow food coluring at parties might help (and in life in general)

Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 22:57

BusMumsHoliday · Yesterday 22:55

Have you tried talking to her about it away from the party? "I've noticed you find it hard to leave parties and was wondering why that might be."

I would try leaving and having something else to move on to, even if that's just going to Tesco or whatever. And tell her the plan in advance. Leaving with a friend might also help.

I would never diagnose online but this does sound a lot like my DS who is autistic and possibly ADHD. Especially what you say about struggling with larger groups: social interactions between more than two people are much more complex and so more draining for ND people. My DS has had disaster playdates when host families have also invited other children - it just gets too much for him.

I've tried all these things but it keeps happening. I have wondered if there is something else going on but like I said, I have asked her teachers and they are not bothered. I just want to be able to help her and I feel like I'm failing her. It's so stressful.

It's also worth to say that DD can cope with younger siblings being there. It's just when it is more than 1 of her friends AND siblings there.

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Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 22:55

batt3nb3rg · Yesterday 20:00

Poorly parented and lacking in respect for authority. It's your job as a parent to raise your children to be respectful and pleasant members of their community.

I actually get loads of compliments about how well behaved DD is and older people often say that "I've done a good job with her." She is not doing it to be badly behaved, she is genuinely upset and I feel stressed that I have not been able to help her to overcome this.

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BusMumsHoliday · Yesterday 22:55

Have you tried talking to her about it away from the party? "I've noticed you find it hard to leave parties and was wondering why that might be."

I would try leaving and having something else to move on to, even if that's just going to Tesco or whatever. And tell her the plan in advance. Leaving with a friend might also help.

I would never diagnose online but this does sound a lot like my DS who is autistic and possibly ADHD. Especially what you say about struggling with larger groups: social interactions between more than two people are much more complex and so more draining for ND people. My DS has had disaster playdates when host families have also invited other children - it just gets too much for him.

Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 22:53

Littlejellyuk · Yesterday 22:48

This may sound crackers... but bear with me...
Is your daughter a summer born baby?

My DS was summer born, and all his school pals are older (best pals were autumn born) and they were just that little bit more mature /regulated, as they were a bit older than him in comparison 😇

She's an autumn baby. She had reflux/colic and I always thought that was why she was hard to settle but as she has grown and become older I realise it might just be her nature. It's really hard to settle her when she is upset. She doesn't generally get to the point where she is livid/tantrum territory but it's hard to pull her back when she is upset.

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Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 22:49

wrongsock · Yesterday 21:38

My 7 year old is a nightmare at parties and gets emotional about every little thing and particularly leaving. I hate them too, they are totally overwhelming. I have no idea how other adults can hold conversations with mayhem happening around them.

I do wonder if you are over egging leaving in some way and it’s then causing her to feel stressed? Perhaps a slightly more chilled approach, e.g. with my daughter I have learned to just say “we’re going in a minute” very casually. Then when it’s time to go I just say “it’s time to go” (again, casually, quietly) and I just leave. 9 times out of 10 she follows. I used to make a lot more of a big deal out of it as I thought it was good parenting (e.g. get on her level, look in her eyes, say it firmly) but I think that just pissed her off 🤣

I usually say "we're going soon" and that's when the tears start and she can't come back from that. It's just the same if I say "10 mins...5 mins..."

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Littlejellyuk · Yesterday 22:48

This may sound crackers... but bear with me...
Is your daughter a summer born baby?

My DS was summer born, and all his school pals are older (best pals were autumn born) and they were just that little bit more mature /regulated, as they were a bit older than him in comparison 😇

Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 22:47

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · Yesterday 21:14

This is quite common in children who are hyped up on sugar and excitement and over tired. I know a few kids who were like this when they were younger. None are ND, not every behaviour is. It sounds like she’s just overtired and probably hyped from all the sugar, cake, excitement etc and really doesn’t want it to stop. I would remind her ten mins before the end then 5 and maybe say that she can have her party bag when she leaves the party sensibly- no crying, saying thank you etc.

If only it worked though! I feel i have tried all the methods in the book!

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Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 22:46

RuddyLongCovid · Yesterday 21:09

My daughter is very similar - recently diagnosed AuDhD.

Just curious how old was she when she was diagnosed?

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Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 22:45

waterrat · Yesterday 20:48

She sounds like my 12 year old who was diagnosed autistic at 8.
Particularly the issue with playdates - crying and upset.

I really recommend reading up about autism in girls and starting to think of her as ND - you won't do any harm by acting as if she needs that extra support.

With the playdates - she will have been exhausted from school and it's too much for her. I came to a point of realising my child just couldn't do anything after school most of the time.

Would you be able to point me in the right direction for resources? I don't like the idea of just diving into Google for this kind of thing.

Could you share a bit more about your journey with your DC to their diagnosis?

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gardenflowergirl · Yesterday 21:49

Are you leaving early if you have to do a count down? Why not stay to the e NB d?

Phineyj · Yesterday 21:44

Sorry if this is too obvious a suggestion, but maybe don't go to parties and host playdates? They're not compulsory. If she's doing well in school, that's good! But maybe that's enough social interaction for her.

My DH has a t-shirt that says "You read my t-shirt. That's enough social interaction for one day."

We're all different.

ladygindiva · Yesterday 21:41

Notrainingbutpouring · Yesterday 21:28

on the basis of this comment, it would seem your parents didn’t quite succeed.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 much better response than mine

ladygindiva · Yesterday 21:41

batt3nb3rg · Yesterday 20:00

Poorly parented and lacking in respect for authority. It's your job as a parent to raise your children to be respectful and pleasant members of their community.

Oh do F off

wrongsock · Yesterday 21:38

My 7 year old is a nightmare at parties and gets emotional about every little thing and particularly leaving. I hate them too, they are totally overwhelming. I have no idea how other adults can hold conversations with mayhem happening around them.

I do wonder if you are over egging leaving in some way and it’s then causing her to feel stressed? Perhaps a slightly more chilled approach, e.g. with my daughter I have learned to just say “we’re going in a minute” very casually. Then when it’s time to go I just say “it’s time to go” (again, casually, quietly) and I just leave. 9 times out of 10 she follows. I used to make a lot more of a big deal out of it as I thought it was good parenting (e.g. get on her level, look in her eyes, say it firmly) but I think that just pissed her off 🤣

Notrainingbutpouring · Yesterday 21:28

batt3nb3rg · Yesterday 20:00

Poorly parented and lacking in respect for authority. It's your job as a parent to raise your children to be respectful and pleasant members of their community.

on the basis of this comment, it would seem your parents didn’t quite succeed.

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · Yesterday 21:14

This is quite common in children who are hyped up on sugar and excitement and over tired. I know a few kids who were like this when they were younger. None are ND, not every behaviour is. It sounds like she’s just overtired and probably hyped from all the sugar, cake, excitement etc and really doesn’t want it to stop. I would remind her ten mins before the end then 5 and maybe say that she can have her party bag when she leaves the party sensibly- no crying, saying thank you etc.

RuddyLongCovid · Yesterday 21:09

Coldcoffeekindamorning · Yesterday 19:39

I'm honestly not sure tbh. She's either fantastic or getting upset over the tiniest things and I really struggle with the jekyll and hyde. She has a lot of things where I think maybe it might be ND and i have braoched it with the school but no one is bothered. She behaves really well in school and is bright and clever. She gets very upset about her shoes, her socks, being late, she takes ages to go to sleep and then wakes up super early then is tired and can't cope, again floods of tears.

Last week I had some friends round for a playdate and she cried all the way home from school and then for about 70% of the playdate. She seems fine if it's just one friend or friend+siblings but as soon as its more than one family she just doesnt cope, cant tell me why shes upset etc and I honestly dont know what else to do. I feel so stressed by it all.

We did have to leave prompt today but its a bloody school night and I also have a younger DS. It's just life that we sometimes have to leave before other people but honestly her little brother copes better than her!

My daughter is very similar - recently diagnosed AuDhD.

DontBuyAnotherBook · Yesterday 21:01

UpAhead · Yesterday 20:59

Not really…overexcited, over stimulated, fear of missing out, tired, sad, emotional, too much sugar …

Many, many more observations and assessment, by a team of professionals required before an auADHD diagnosis.

I was surprised that crying at the end of a party would lead to a suggested diagnosis.

When it is repeated behaviour like this then it may suggest something is up.

UpAhead · Yesterday 20:59

DontBuyAnotherBook · Yesterday 20:31

It is because it is quite unusual behaviour at that age.

Not really…overexcited, over stimulated, fear of missing out, tired, sad, emotional, too much sugar …

Many, many more observations and assessment, by a team of professionals required before an auADHD diagnosis.

I was surprised that crying at the end of a party would lead to a suggested diagnosis.

Bikenutz · Yesterday 20:58

School staff may not have engaged with your concerns around possible neurodiversity because they do not see the side of your DD that you see. Schools tend to focus on whether they are coping with the work and if they behave well. It sounds as though this is the case at school, then the problems start out of school. She could be neurodiverse, but that’s a long road to investigate and you need something shorter term to manage things in the meantime.

Taking all of your posts together, it does seem that she struggles with larger gatherings and endings. Maybe after school when she’s already tired makes her less able to cope with her feelings.

It would be cruel to ban further parties if she loves them. So I would go to the next one expecting her to cry.

A few hours before the party
(not in the car on the way there) I would set expectations early:

”We are going to the party at 2 o’ clock and we will leave at 4 o’clock.”

Give her one reminder ten minutes before you leave the party (too many countdowns / reminders might make things worse).

Also give her a role that will distract her in those final moments:

“Your job right now is to find your coat and thank the birthday girl. Off you go…”

Then when that’s done, leave. Respond to tears with something like:
“I know. It’s hard when fun things end.”
So she feels heard. Don’t try to stop the tears. Don’t give her five more minutes. Be empathic but firm.

Then just drive. Let her cry it out.

When she’s calm later you can ask her what she found hardest about leaving.

Remember you’re a good Mum, and it’s quite normal to feel a bit worn down by this, but you will find a way.

blondeboobshell · Yesterday 20:55

You could try a visual routine for her showing the timings. And then reminders, we arrive at this time and leave at this time. Then a timer on your phone, show her a 5 min, 3 min, 2 min and 1 min. Have everything ready to leave and ideally shoes on then just grab her and run. Also a distraction for leaving (sweets, iPad etc)

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