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AIBU to want payment for fitted items left in my rental?

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Maurit · Yesterday 17:54

I just left a rental and left behind three items I had fitted: an extra loo, fitted wardrobes and 4 curtain rails. I asked the landlord to message the new tenants that I was happy to leave these provided they pay a small fee for each - much less than they cost to me. They don’t want to do that and the landlord is suggesting I just leave the items as less hassle than taking them out. AIBU in thinking that the new tenants are just joy riding on this, knowing that they’ll get access to the items for no fee? .

OP posts:
ITMA2000 · Yesterday 18:58

Andylion · Yesterday 18:39

I know someone who installed a very tiny powder room in the front hallway closet when one of their relatives could no longer manage the stairs to the bathrooms. I imaginethis is a similar scenario.

Installing a new toilet in a room with no existing plumbing is a major job- the new soil pipe would need connecting, new hot and cold water feeds- knocking through walls, making good afterwards- it is not something someone does in a rented property.

geumsun · Yesterday 18:58

Confused about the additional loo. Where did you put it? Hope it wasn't in the corner of the living room.

Viviennemary · Yesterday 18:59

No you can't be paid. You can uninstall them and take them away and make good any damage and put back the things you replaced. You've no come back here imho.

dairydebris · Yesterday 18:59

Notmybestusername · Yesterday 18:38

I just need more info on this second toilet. I have so many questions

Me too!!!

Where was the loo?!

ITMA2000 · Yesterday 18:59

ChampagneLassie · Yesterday 18:56

That seems unnecessarily wasteful. I had same scenario and I just left for free. I hate the thought of perfectly good things being dumped.

Agree!

Fattypantss · Yesterday 19:00

We had this in a rental once.

The previous tenants had put fitted wardrobes in each bedroom.

The estate agent said they wanted £700. We told them no, we weren’t paying. I thought it was really, really odd that the landlord let them tell the estate agent that.

In the end, they dropped it. We told the agent to tell the landlord that we would not be paying for anything previous tenants had fitted. I honestly doubt anyone else would have either.

if anyone was to pay for them, surely it would be the landlord? We were only planning on staying for a year.

iwishitwouldstartraining · Yesterday 19:02

Maurit · Yesterday 17:54

I just left a rental and left behind three items I had fitted: an extra loo, fitted wardrobes and 4 curtain rails. I asked the landlord to message the new tenants that I was happy to leave these provided they pay a small fee for each - much less than they cost to me. They don’t want to do that and the landlord is suggesting I just leave the items as less hassle than taking them out. AIBU in thinking that the new tenants are just joy riding on this, knowing that they’ll get access to the items for no fee? .

Why would the tenants pay you?

They will be paying the landlord for the property they are renting and they won't care about the history of how the toilet or the curtain rails got there.

This is between you and your landlord, and you need to check your contract.

pictoosh · Yesterday 19:02

You're not serious.

KateBushAgain · Yesterday 19:03

Why on earth did you do that to someone else’s house?
You absolute loon .
You’re fortunate the owner isn’t making you foot the cost of getting the property back to it’s original state .

Isittimeformynapyet · Yesterday 19:03

Heronwatcher · Yesterday 18:39

Also as others have said, if these are improvements to the property and the landlord agreed to you doing them surely the landlord should be paying? At best the new tenants have a right to use them for a limited time.

At best the new tenants have a right to use them for a limited time.

"At best" for which party? And what limited time do you mean? What on earth would the "limit" be based on?

Surely the new tenants would use them for the whole length of their tenancy?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · Yesterday 19:04

You said you've just left the property.. Isn't it just too late for any of that now?
How would you get back in to take the items away and tidy up?

Get an agreement with the landlord in writing next time.. and only buy things that can be removed when you leave to put in the next place

The only way you could have got your money back in this instance( I think) is if you didn't want to take them with you, is to have put the items on facebook market or place or similar well before you left.

localnotail · Yesterday 19:04

Did they allow you to install these things? Did you even ask? You are supposed to leave the property in the same state you found it. You know they can charge you for removing these items/ making good?

missmollygreen · Yesterday 19:07

Maurit · Yesterday 17:54

I just left a rental and left behind three items I had fitted: an extra loo, fitted wardrobes and 4 curtain rails. I asked the landlord to message the new tenants that I was happy to leave these provided they pay a small fee for each - much less than they cost to me. They don’t want to do that and the landlord is suggesting I just leave the items as less hassle than taking them out. AIBU in thinking that the new tenants are just joy riding on this, knowing that they’ll get access to the items for no fee? .

They are not "joy riding on this"

You are taking the piss

diddl · Yesterday 19:08

Why should they pay for things you fitted because you wanted them?

How do you intend to make them pay?

This is one of the oddest things I have ever read.

AIBU in thinking that the new tenants are just joy riding on this,
😂😂😂

Whaaaatszuuup · Yesterday 19:09

Heronwatcher · Yesterday 18:39

Also as others have said, if these are improvements to the property and the landlord agreed to you doing them surely the landlord should be paying? At best the new tenants have a right to use them for a limited time.

No. The landlord may have agreed (Although we don’t know that) but that doesn’t mean they should pay. Perhaps there were blinds up and the OP asked if she could put up a curtain rail, the landlord can say yes but they don’t have to pay. It’s not the same as a window being broken or the front door lock failing.

BMW58 · Yesterday 19:10

Of course they don't have to pay you - they didn't ask for the improvements!

You could of course remove it all as long as you make good, but otherwise you should take this as an important lesson.

Sorry but more fool you!

JeanSimmons · Yesterday 19:12

As a tenant, you had no business fitting those things and I'm surprised that the landlord didn't penalise you for it. Of course you can't ask for payment!

Olive123456 · Yesterday 19:12

TurkishShepherd · Yesterday 18:38

I work for a huge housing org.
If tenants do work, it either stays or they remove the items and pay for rectification to return the house to the state they found it.

If it's badly fitted/damaged/unsafe and we have to remove it, they pay the rectification cost.

I think this is pretty standard & sensible.

Your assertion that new tenants are profiteering because of your freely-made choice to invest in someone else's property is interesting but unfair.

I'd tell you to come and get your toilet!

My sister lives in a council house and when her kids moved out she knocked a wall down between the bathroom and a bedroom to make a very large bathroom, making what was a 3 bedroom house a 2 bedroom house. She sure never asked or told the council

LIZS · Yesterday 19:14

Unless it was agreed with ll prior to fitting that you would be reimbursed yabu, it would not be up to a subsequent tenant anyway. Presumably the items were for your personal benefit.

BearPear · Yesterday 19:15

Putting in an extra loo requires building control consent, as far as I know. Did you notify the council?

happylittlefruit · Yesterday 19:16

you're lucky the landlord didn't ask you to remove and restore everything at your own cost so you are being wildly unreasonable.

EmotionalSupportGoblin · Yesterday 19:16

Greenseacat · Yesterday 18:38

Why on earth should the new tenants pay?

You chose to install these items and if you can't take them with you it is not the tenants' problem.

Have some common sense.

In fact the landlord could ask you to remove that stuff and put the property as it was when you signed up to rent it. So consider yourself lucky that they have not said they would take the money out of your deposit to restore the property to its initial condition.

This. What on Earth are you thinking OP?!

Zanatdy · Yesterday 19:16

You can’t do that. Why add permanent things to a temporary house?

rivalsbinge · Yesterday 19:19

We rented for 14 years always enhanced the property in one place we added a new bathroom suite which was our choice as the old one was a bit “old” and we had a newborn baby, we replaced carpets, we made the garden lovely and painted and decorated. It didn’t cross our mind to ask for money these were all things we wanted to do to make our time in our home nicer.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 19:19

Did you get permission from the landlord or the managing agent before making these changes ? If so I would imagine they made you aware that you would be responsible for removing them when you leave and making good. I think I’d leave things as they are and be thankful the landlord isn’t chasing you.