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Half of Americans can’t read

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Balalabab · Yesterday 16:32

So the title is slightly clickbaity I feel.

But this is what is being said in a podcast I am listening to called ‘Sold a story’.

Ironic if the title is wrong considering the name of the podcast 😂

Anyway.. story goes that in Covid a bunch of adults all over the US realised their children couldn’t actually read.

What they had been taught to do was learn a bunch of words by sight, and then as reading became more complex they would look at the first few letters and guess from the context.

One of the example given was instead of ‘Poland was invaded by Germany.’ Someone who used this method read ‘Poland was invited by Germany.’

This reminded me of a story my in-law told me (he is mid 60s) of how he couldn’t actually read. And it was only when he went to his grammar school interview and asked to read a text did they recognised he couldn’t actually read. He knew he couldn’t read. That made absolutely no sense to me until I heard this podcast about people who are effectively half reading. Going through the motions and faking it. But who actually cannot read.

My mind is blown. And I am gripped by this rabbit hole.

In America; this ‘whole word’ method of reading has been a political war for the past 60 years. Politicised to be a left vs right issue and has now been called by some ‘The reading wars’. I have asked tried to ask on Reddit about this 3 times and every time it has been deleted. I don’t know if that’s denial of the issue, embarrassment, or just Reddit being Reddit.

Anyway this has really captured me. Has America fixed this? Do we have this problem in UK as we were using this teaching method many years ago too? How many British people can’t actually read? Whats going to happen to the Gen Z’s who can’t read!

And finally a down the rabbit hole fact for you - that image of Bush sitting in a classroom when 9/11 happened. The most famous image of Bush seen by nearly everyone in the developed world. He was in that school because he was trying to ban ‘whole word’ learning and push phonics first learning. This has really has been an invisible elephant in the room.

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Friendlygingercat · Today 00:36

Some Americans are certainly unable to paste a tracking number into a box on the postal site of their national service - the USPS - and check on the progress of a package. In the last year Ive had 3 buyers contact me to say "I have not received this" when the package was only a few days in the mail. Or "can you give me an update on this" as if I was a courier service. Errm no, that's not my job. If I did it for one I would have to do it for everyone. Keeping track on the package is the buyers job.

I had one lazy guy ask 3 times for updates and then file an "item not received" when the tracking showed it was handed to the concierge of his apartment block. His attempt at theft was denied. Another left a negative because they had to pay a customs fee. Ebay removed it. Some buyers try on outrageous things and then forget that If go on live chat or call customer services the agent can see all the messages that were exchanged.

MargotLovesTom · Today 00:38

shuggles · Today 00:28

When I've seen children using "phonics," they sound individual letters.

Individual letters should never be sounded when trying to sound out a word.

Well, I don't know what you've seen but it's not phonics as it's taught in schools 🤷‍♀️. The word ship would be taught as sh-i-p, with the sh being another digraph. Children would not be told to sound out s-h-i-p.

WearyAuldWumman · Today 00:59

I'm 66. I learned to read via the whole word method (in Fife, Scotland). It worked well for me, but I have a clear memory of my mother expressing her surprise that I wasn't being taught to sound words out.

At the same time, in some parts of the UK they were using the Initial Teaching Alphabet. I recall seeing children's books with ordinary spelling on one page and the ITA on the opposite page. I remember thinking that it was daft. (This was when I was a child.)

I've since read that children taught via the ITA had difficulty switching to ordinary spelling.

WearyAuldWumman · Today 01:06

As an aside, I recall reading a Tony Buzan book where he said that dyslexia is practically unheard of Serbia, because Serbian is written phonetically.

(That's not wholly true now - some loan words follow the original spelling.)

It's still the case that Serbian magazines will spell foreign actors names phonetically - for example, "Fajnz" instead of "Fiennes".

NB Serbian children are taught two alphabets - Cyrillic and Latin. (The rule is that you don't mix the two, though I've seen people doing it as a joke.) Since the break-up of Yugoslavia, Cyrillic has been used in official documents.

For many years now, children have been taught "Write as you speak."

LoafofSellotape · Today 01:12

I think I learned whole word ,I remember learning by flash cards in 75.

In the 80s we could chose Latin or German ,bog standard high school.

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