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AIBU to feel upset after my meeting with my manager?

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derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 07:38

I have been working somewhere for nearly 10 years, after being a SAHM. I loved my job, but the company has gone through many restructures and it has changed completely.

Over the past 2 years we have had many redundancies and people not replaced. As a result my workload has massively increased. On top of this many of my colleagues have sought out doctors notes, and other things to exempt them from certain tasks. I have been given this extra work too. This has caused me a lot of stress. It also affects others and a few of my work colleagues are now on antidepressants or have left. Our staff turnover is horrendous. People are leaving with no job to go to. Everyone is unhappy and it is a toxic environment.

Anyway, I had my appraisal and it went OK, but afterwards I realised I had been downgraded. I asked some of my colleagues, not directly, but they confirmed they received higher. I was really upset about this, as I'd say I was one of a few people who do the lions share. I even manage the department when there is no manager. Since my boss is on holiday I asked the next level up (it is usual to escalate to this person) about my appraisal.

What then followed has really shocked me. I was told that it had been agreed amongst them to downgrade me as whilst my work was excellent and appreciated, I had a bad attitude and my behaviours are not aligning with what they list as what we should be demonstrating. Apparently people say hello to me, and I have my head down and barely acknowledge them or I am in a mood and people tread on eggshells around me. I am a thorn in the managers side, and I bring problems to the manager but not solutions. I am abrupt. I was totally shocked by this because in the 30 years that I have been working, and the many appraisals I have had, I have never had this feedback. In fact I have constantly been told I am very popular and respected and a go to person if someone needs help. I have never worked with this manager. It felt like a character assassination.

Some points;

I asked for some specific examples, but they could not name one.

I have never had a complaint made about me by a customer, or by a colleague in 10 years.

Apparently I am too outspoken, but they specifically asked me to join a group of staff to talk about branch issues. I asked to step down from this and was asked to stay as my opinions are valued. After one meeting the head of the company told my manager that they were really impressed with how I professionally handled myself. Seeing me upset, a friendly manager told me that I had pissed off one of the managers by questioning something, and that the company ask for my opinion, but don't always like the answers.

In this company, I have had at least 18 appraisals and mid years, and not once have I ever had feedback on my attitude. There is no history of this whatsoever.

Now, I am not disputing my attitude and behaviours. However I asked them to put it into context. I am covering a very large portion of the workload. I have asked to reduce my hours, and change my days (there is one week a month where I work 7 out of 8 days in a row). I come home stressed out and crying. I have raised concerns numerous times about my workload and improving my work life balance. These have all been rejected as we are short staffed and it doesn't suit the business. I asked to move department and they have said no. So, with that in mind, yes I look stressed, I look unhappy, I may not be skipping along saying hello to everyone. However, no one has complained about me, neither staff member or client.

Apparently they have observed this about me for a while, and my manager should have addressed it with me, but they did not. Even though I spent an hour and a half in my appraisal. Apparently they are too scared of me. I am in my 50's and they are in their late 20's.

FYI this is a minimum wage job. I do have another PT job which I can increase the hours. I don't really need the money, but I saved and invested all that I earned and felt I was contributing to my household and our future.

This manager suggested that I get my manager and a couple of other managers who also work along side me in a room and they tell me bluntly about my attitude and behaviours, I can then go away, reflect on it, and come back acting differently. I don't really like the sound of this!!!

My DH is not being very supportive about me leaving. He says I shouldn't till I get another job, but I just don't see how I can stay if this is what they think of me. My adult DC say that I am going to end up having a heart attack or stroke and it is not worth it.

AIBU to be upset, or is this kind of feedback normal?

What would you advise me?

What's stopping me leaving;

The money was invested and it feels good.
I like to be busy, and have structure to my week.
I'm in my 50's, it'll be hard to get another job. However, I do have another job that I enjoy and I can develop (I am a pilates instructor)

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HelpMeGetThrough · 06/09/2026 13:21

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Did you overlook the part where the OP said she doesn’t actually need the money? I’d say the OP doesn’t need to progress. What a great position to be in.

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Depends on the company. I can think of at least two in the area I live where employees are on or just above NMW and at most get a very small cost of living rise if they are lucky.

LondonLass2026 · 06/09/2026 13:33

Pilates all the way!

I've worked in environments where I've been falsely accused of having a bad attitude and not being a team player, and it's usually when they want you out. (which is usually for some reason which is nothing to do with you)

If it's paying bare minimum, why ever would you stay? Don't try and make sense of these people. You'll waste your life doing so.

I've always left jobs where the environment was toxic or I was lied about. Back then (10-20 years ago) you were called "flaky" and "job hopper" and told you'd never work again.

Now according to LinkedIn it's the done thing to walk out if unhappy! But these days mental health is prioritised.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 06/09/2026 13:36

They couldn't give you one example of your behaviour ... pathetic nonsense IMO!

herbetta · 06/09/2026 13:39

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 07:49

Just last week I was asked to up my hours. I can also work in other centres. I have also logged a company name and trademark for some things I want to do online.

To be honest, I have also found doing the pilates stressful as I have not had time to study and prepare properly due to the stress of my other job.

I'd wonder if they are just inexperienced/ rubbish managers, who are threatened by the fact you are so good & honest.

Do not let it get into your head. I have worked at places like this & nothing I did was ever good enough - it was like an abusive relationship.

If they thought you were so bad then why would they ask you to increase your hours?

You could do / try / say lots of things, but I wouldn't bother. Politely refuse the extra hours, stop going above & beyond, do only your set hours and take all your breaks.

Refuse to give your opinion on anything from now on. Meanwhile look & apply for any other job. Can you network with all those who have left & gone elsewhere to find somewhere where you would be valued & appreciated Flowers
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herbetta · 06/09/2026 13:40

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 07:52

I think the menopause is playing a part in my work, but then loads of men and young women are leaving due to the stress, so it is not all that.

Are you on or have you considered HRT?

zingally · 06/09/2026 13:40

Just leave. It's honestly not worth the agro.

I had a similar situation about 8-9 years ago. Was stressed up to eyeballs, mental health in tatters, yet I wound myself up no end about quitting. I'd be leaving them in the lurch! I wouldn't get another job! What would my partner/parents say?!

Anyway, on a random Tuesday afternoon, during a chat with my boss, it just fell out of my mouth that I'd decided to leave. He told me to sleep on it, which I did, and had the best nights sleep of my life. I confirmed my decision the next day, and IMMEDIATELY felt about 75% better.

The found a replacement for me within 24 hours - literally - the boss called in an old friend of his.

I've since gone on to have the happiest, most content 9 years of my adult life.

As for work, I started temping, and found I really liked it. I enjoyed the variety and change, and I set up 2 side hussles, which have both been really successful. I found myself wishing I'd made the jump years ago.

You've got this OP.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 06/09/2026 13:42

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 08:08

"I would start to look elsewhere and make plans to leave but don't quit as a reaction to a unsatisfactory appraisal"

It is not really the appraisal but that vitriol feedback on my character at work that indicates to me that they want me out.

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Oh, sweetie - your face no longer fits and your card is marked. So irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the situation, you need to leave and before your mental health and wellbeing further deteriorates and/or you’re put on some PIP or managed out. And I see you’ve decided to do so.

And as for what you say, well, you hand in your notice by email. And if asked, any response you chose to give can be limited to ‘it’s time for me to move on’.

As for getting signed off for your notice period, I wouldn’t - just come into the office on time, leave on time and do the bare minimum. Keep your head held high, remain professional and I think you might find your notice period a slow winding down. Oh, and don’t stress out about handovers, training other staff or manuals/‘how to’s’ you’re requested to do.

TBH - I think you have made a mistake and that’s simply overstaying your time at the organisation. Your loyalty and ‘above & beyond’ hard work has not been recognised by current management - the others have left and it’s now your time to go.

All the best x

keepincool · 06/09/2026 13:43

19lottie82 · 06/09/2026 13:18

DO NOT RESIGN! You’ve been there 18 years!

Other posters have suggested quitting then claiming for constructive dismissal, but this is notoriously hard to win.

See your GP and get signed off sick. Then file a grievance. Sit tight until they get rid of you and are forced to pay you redundancy.

Other posters have suggested quitting then claiming for constructive dismissal, but this is notoriously hard to win.

While it may seem that way, it isn't quite true. Many constructive and unfair dismissal claims are settled via ACAS conciliation, prior to ET hearings. The number of settlement claims aren't widely reported, but:

From ACAS data:
Acas settled around 70% of cases that did not progress to a tribunal hearing in July to September 2025. This represents a 4 percentage point decrease from 74% in April to June 2025.

From Yerty:
Around 82% of unfair dismissal claims are resolved without ever reaching a full hearing. The 6% struck-out rate is the highest of any major claim type — most often because claimants miss a deadline or fail to comply with a tribunal direction.

What percentage of unfair dismissal claims succeed?
Around 3% of disposed claims succeed at a full tribunal hearing. Of those that actually reached a hearing, around 43% won. 32% settle through ACAS conciliation, and around 82% are resolved without a hearing.

herbetta · 06/09/2026 13:44

zingally · 06/09/2026 13:40

Just leave. It's honestly not worth the agro.

I had a similar situation about 8-9 years ago. Was stressed up to eyeballs, mental health in tatters, yet I wound myself up no end about quitting. I'd be leaving them in the lurch! I wouldn't get another job! What would my partner/parents say?!

Anyway, on a random Tuesday afternoon, during a chat with my boss, it just fell out of my mouth that I'd decided to leave. He told me to sleep on it, which I did, and had the best nights sleep of my life. I confirmed my decision the next day, and IMMEDIATELY felt about 75% better.

The found a replacement for me within 24 hours - literally - the boss called in an old friend of his.

I've since gone on to have the happiest, most content 9 years of my adult life.

As for work, I started temping, and found I really liked it. I enjoyed the variety and change, and I set up 2 side hussles, which have both been really successful. I found myself wishing I'd made the jump years ago.

You've got this OP.

This somewhat mirrors my experience.

My employer threatened me with disciplinary action over something minor which I've later realised was due to undiagnosed ADHD made worse by perimenopause. It was the trigger I needed to leave. That was 4 years ago & I have temped ever since, and have been at my current place for 3 years. They value my experience.

WiddlinDiddlin · 06/09/2026 13:44

Yeah, you owe them nothing.

Get signed off sick which screws them over - use that breathing space to sort out other opportunities - then resign, ideally with a big 'fuck you'.

Grumpyoldcat · 06/09/2026 13:45

What a dreadful place to work. . Id leave and do the bare minimum during my notice period.

Cyclingmummy1 · 06/09/2026 13:48

Go on the sick and raise a grievance.

TipsyPeachSnake · 06/09/2026 13:51

@derFutterneid Are you in a Union?

PinkPanther27 · 06/09/2026 13:52

The way they're treating you is absolutely disgusting. They're taking advantage of you by piling on the work then blaming you when it impacts you. It sounds like such a nasty toxic environment and the issue is management, not you. You're worth so much more than this. I wish you all the luck with your pilates 🥳

Satisfiedwithanapple · 06/09/2026 13:52

I think it’s them not you by the sound of it.

Some managers are threatened by people who are too competent, the manager knows you could do their job and they don’t like it.

i must admit I opened this thread expecting mumsnet to be on the side of the manager as they tend to be. That isn’t the case which is fairly telling.

Chilly80 · 06/09/2026 13:53

Get signed off sick and use that time to look for another job.
When you return to work do the bare minimum.

ginasevern · 06/09/2026 13:53

I expect they're trying to push you out OP, partly because of your age and partly because they prefer to have contracted staff. You also aren't a "yes" person.

moonraker0 · 06/09/2026 14:09

I wouldn’t put my notice in just yet if I was in your position, I’d rinse my sick pay whilst looking for another job. I’ve seen this happen loads of times.

Separate note to everyone saying look for a job in a supermarket, they have cut staff back to the bare bones and the memories you are looking on fondly don’t exist anymore unfortunately.

HollyhocksandPeons · 06/09/2026 14:13

Leave.

herbetta · 06/09/2026 14:16

I'd definitely contact some temping agencies

Fortheloveofpizza · 06/09/2026 14:24

I wonder if we work for the same company. I’ve had an awful time and recently told my behaviours weren’t up to scratch. Apparently I don’t say good morning loud enough amongst other ridiculous things. It’s become apparent they are using behaviours to bully people. Many colleagues made redundant who are nearly all part time mums of young children or those with disabilities.
Im making a plan to leave

Luckydog7 · 06/09/2026 14:29

LeahCariad · 06/09/2026 08:11

In your shoes, I'd be slapping my resignation letter on them tomorrow morning, clearing my desk and then being off sick for the remainder of my notice.

This this this!! The absolute fuckers!

Your child is right, even if you stay it will just be more of the same. Same stress, same minimal pay, same lack of appreciation. The next review will be worse. Get out! Enjoy the look on their face when you slap your resignation on their desk.

Sounds like you are perfectly eligible to go on stress leave too. Use your remaining holiday. Take a couple of days to breath then plan plan plan. If money is an issue get thyself to an employment agency for part time contracting to tide you over.

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