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AIBU to feel middle-class luxuries have become increasingly out of reach?

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cocobow · 03/09/2026 16:07

I had to go to the local shopping centre the other day to pick up a click and collect for my husband, new work shirts so nothing fancy! I thought why not make an afternoon of it as I rarely go shopping and I could maybe get a coffee and cake and even treat myself to a little something as my birthday is coming up.

I loved some of the clothes in places like monsoon and seasalt but it was all way too expensive dresses were £80 to £100 or more same with skirts which seemed to start at £65 and I know that isn't even considered expensive today but for me it is! I went for a look in the sephora as I love skincare but again it was all really expensive. The queue for the till was full of school girls buying things I wouldn't be able to buy for myself!

To be fair they were probably there spending birthday money and probably aren't spending money like that all the time. I suppose it just feels like the goal posts on these admittedly luxury items have been moved since I was in my teens and early 20's when I imagined that by my 40's I'd be able to at least buy some of these things or buy nice clothes now and then. My husband and I both degree and post graduate educated and work in professional jobs but we have to prioritise bills, the kids and food over luxuries. To be fair we have no debt at all and we will save for an buy large purchases cash mostly but I admit to feeling a bit personally deprived at times! When my mum was my age she worked in a call centre part time in the evenings and would go round the shops most weekend and buy herself a new top or other item of clothes and exclusively used clarins skincare, I use the ordinary, cerave or boots and superdrug own brand mostly and my clothes come from charity shops. My parents were working class made good but their disposable income seemed to go a lot further than mine does. We don't even have a large mortgage.

DH and I recently looked at taking a short trip to London as a joint birthday present to each other but the cost was so expensive we seem to have quietly shelved the idea.

In the end I had a look in waterstones but even that was expensive, since when are paperbacks routinely £14.99! I never even had a coffee or bit of cake as the selection of cakes looked dry and unappetizing but would still have cost £10 in total.

Am I being unreasonable to think the cost of a middle class lifestyle with a few luxuries has had the goalposts moved by quite some amount?

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Differentforgirls · 05/09/2026 15:35

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/09/2026 15:10

My children are adults. In my experience the most rewarding and worthwhile endevours such as sceintific research, marathon training or becoming proficient at a musical instrument are often difficult, demanding can be boring and repetitive - doesn't mean we shouldn't do them though.

It's a shame that's what you got out of parenting. Poor weans.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/09/2026 15:39

Differentforgirls · 05/09/2026 15:35

It's a shame that's what you got out of parenting. Poor weans.

I absolutely loved being a mother, I adore babies and young children.My children are a constant source of joy and pride to me. They both talk about how they think we made good decisions in raising them, althoigh of course they don't agree with everything we did. What an odd comment.

Differentforgirls · 05/09/2026 15:40

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/09/2026 15:39

I absolutely loved being a mother, I adore babies and young children.My children are a constant source of joy and pride to me. They both talk about how they think we made good decisions in raising them, althoigh of course they don't agree with everything we did. What an odd comment.

Just going on your description of boring things.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/09/2026 15:58

Differentforgirls · 05/09/2026 15:40

Just going on your description of boring things.

This is way off topic but my point is tbere is hardly anything in tbe world that brings such great rewards that isn't sometimes hard and boring.

Differentforgirls · 05/09/2026 16:00

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/09/2026 15:58

This is way off topic but my point is tbere is hardly anything in tbe world that brings such great rewards that isn't sometimes hard and boring.

Ok, I agree with that.

Papyrophile · 05/09/2026 21:12

There are blue jobs, that require physical strength, and pink jobs that require recognition they need doing. My DH can't manage the strength at 70, for health reasons, but I can do most of the pink and grey jobs still, just slower than I would have done them at 50. I am also 70, for the record.

DuskyRoses · 05/09/2026 21:16

Papyrophile · 05/09/2026 21:12

There are blue jobs, that require physical strength, and pink jobs that require recognition they need doing. My DH can't manage the strength at 70, for health reasons, but I can do most of the pink and grey jobs still, just slower than I would have done them at 50. I am also 70, for the record.

What are blue and pink jobs and what does it have to do with buying some luxuries?

Papyrophile · 05/09/2026 21:29

Once upon a time, a blue job would have meant putting out the bins, but I have always done that. DP is brilliant at creating work and making money from the company he built from scratch. It's small, but it keeps five families decently paid.

TheAngryPuxie · 06/09/2026 00:26

Differentforgirls · 05/09/2026 15:23

Well you must be on at least £100k between you?

Nowhere near thst. He's on about £45k and FE pay is rubbish so I get about £30k. Plus soon he'll only be getting his pension which is nowhere near his salary.

Differentforgirls · 06/09/2026 06:36

TheAngryPuxie · 06/09/2026 00:26

Nowhere near thst. He's on about £45k and FE pay is rubbish so I get about £30k. Plus soon he'll only be getting his pension which is nowhere near his salary.

Jesus, my son gets £55k as a year five teacher!

IAmInTheHouseSidney · 06/09/2026 08:12

I cannot take seriously anyone who uses terms like procuring or sourcing when talking about.... Going to shop and buyng stuff😂

Idontpostmuch · 06/09/2026 09:44

IAmInTheHouseSidney · 06/09/2026 08:12

I cannot take seriously anyone who uses terms like procuring or sourcing when talking about.... Going to shop and buyng stuff😂

They wouldn't talk like that. Some people flip that way in writing. My friend uses endeavour instead of try in emails, which looks odd since she would never use that word face to face. The posters I can't take seriously are those who type could of and would of. What were their primary school teachers thinking of by allowing that through?

Baldrapunzel · 06/09/2026 10:21

HollyhocksandPeons I think those amazing restaurant lunches were due to high end restaurants struggling after the 87 crash and to lack of city boys chucking cash around.

hoarderofthedough · 06/09/2026 11:20

Off topic, but why on earth is anyone buying clothes from Seasalt? My 83 year old gran wouldn't wear that frumpy shit. Baggy floral dresses and stuff. Has everyone been brainwashed or something?

bababamama · 06/09/2026 11:23

@hoarderofthedough

Seasalt have some lovely clothes, not frumpy at all. Not been in this year but I find great work clothes as does my 25 year old dd in the past. Not baggy unless you choose that design

BIossomtoes · 06/09/2026 11:30

hoarderofthedough · 06/09/2026 11:20

Off topic, but why on earth is anyone buying clothes from Seasalt? My 83 year old gran wouldn't wear that frumpy shit. Baggy floral dresses and stuff. Has everyone been brainwashed or something?

We’re all allowed to like different things. 🤷‍♀️

Mespher · 06/09/2026 11:47

hoarderofthedough · 06/09/2026 11:20

Off topic, but why on earth is anyone buying clothes from Seasalt? My 83 year old gran wouldn't wear that frumpy shit. Baggy floral dresses and stuff. Has everyone been brainwashed or something?

Have you got a grudge against them or something, you sound a bit deranged, it's just a clothes shop.

Idontpostmuch · 06/09/2026 12:50

walrushurricane · 05/09/2026 08:10

My family were very definitely middle class but my parents would never have spent money on coffee and cake in the 70s. In the 80s and 90s I would have coffee a lot in cafes but not cake too.

I agree with @limeshade. It's sad that coffee and cakes are out of many people's reach. The cost of meals out is so high now, and coffee shops and cafés allow for a lower key way to be out and about, part of the world, important when there's so much homeworking. A drink and your favourite cake/pastry can go a long way towards brightening a lacklustre day, whether alone or with friends.

Idontpostmuch · 06/09/2026 12:57

BIossomtoes · 06/09/2026 11:30

We’re all allowed to like different things. 🤷‍♀️

@Blossomtoes I used to think the same thing. Then during the first lockdown I saw a lovely top in window. Went home and ordered it online. Much more recently was given a seasalt cardigan which I love. Wondered if I should reconsider my prejudice, so this summer had a look at dresses. They looked dowdy on racks and, trying on some, found they looked terrible, but then I found one that looked like nothing. Tried it on and it was perfect and have worn it all summer. Sorry, didn't mean @Blossomtoes. Was addressing @hoarderofthedough .

pucelleauxblanchesmains · 06/09/2026 13:06

Seasalt patterned stuff is very hit and miss but their plain cotton tops are excellent, come in interesting colours and last really well. Over the last half decade I've built up a good collection of them.

cocobow · 06/09/2026 14:53

LGBirmingham · 05/09/2026 10:45

I agree with Grayson Perry on how to define British Middle Class. You should watch his programme on it, it's really interesting.

Traditional middle class which has passed through many generation value the arts and culture. Class indicators would be music lessons, trips to galleries and museums, being well read, maybe even naming your children after characters from Classical Literature. Traditional jobs would be in the professions earning a comfortable living (appreciate now the professions don't earn comfortably thanks to CoL and wage stagnation). Outward displays of wealth are seen as tacky and quality is valued. You may see them in a 20 year old Volvo for example. They probably live in a period property in a nice part of town, and they've kept their sash windows.

The new middle class are those who have earned their money recently, rather than having been middle class for several generations in their family, are a completely different type who like to display status through labels on clothes, flashy cars, all inclusive holidays and big new build houses.

But you could also get less well off traditional middle class people who have all the cultural indicators but decided they wanted to be a writer or an artist or work in third sector, so don't keep up financially but still value all the above. However they may still be being subbed by parents, particularly if they are millennial. These are the ones who gentrify places.

I think I already do understand that and I've elaborated on that at various points. I've actually met Grayson Perry a few times, nice man.

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cocobow · 06/09/2026 15:02

Gosh! I really wish I had never used the term "middle class" in my post, should have know it was a bad idea as I never intended a debate on what what that term meant in such granular detail as it seem there are a million and one ideas of what it means and people are so particular and defensive about it which stands to reason as mumsnet is a UK based site and I think we are a bit weird about class here. So for future reference any mention of class equals ...

AIBU to feel middle-class luxuries have become increasingly out of reach?
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cocobow · 06/09/2026 15:08

montysmaw · 05/09/2026 07:57

You think buying clothes and cosmetics and having a coffee is a "middle class pursuit"?

Believe it or not, the lower orders do it too. They even have holidays and drive cars.

I say somewhere on this thread that I am myself from a working class background and of course I know they do all these things. My point was more that even people who in my experience (perception) used to have a bit more money / disposable income to spend are now blanching at the cost of things and thinking twice.

However someone will be along in a minute to tell me that they grew up stanchly middle class and yet made do and mend, darned their own socks with twine and only got a biscuit once a year at Christmas because only the gaudy working classes eat anything with sugar at any other time of year!

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cherryade8 · 06/09/2026 15:18

Yanbu. For a lot of people (me included) salaries haven't increased much but frozen tax bands and higher taxes as well as inflation have hit hard.

I don't buy takeaways and rarely eat out. Never buy coffee out. My biggest 'luxuries' are included in my weekly tesco shop that gets delivered -maybe some bubble bath or chocolates etc.

It seems wrong that there's little yo aspire to - even a meagre pay rise doesn't equate to much due to the frozen tax bands. I remember when tax bands increased most years, that was when life was good, until covid hit....

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