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AIBU? Missed the immediate aftermath of FIL’s death for a work event and now whole family is freezing me out

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jooooosh · 28/08/2026 17:15

Need some perspective here because I am currently sleeping in the spare room and nobody in my family will talk to me.

I'm 44M and my wife is 44F. We've been together since we were teenagers, married for many years, and have three kids. We're very close to each other's families. My in laws have basically known me since I was a kid, so they’ve always treated me like family.

About three weeks ago, I had to travel from Madrid to Los Angeles for a very important work project. There was a huge amount of money involved and some very wealthy clients, so I had several meetings and events that had been planned well in advance. Honestly, their lifestyle isn't really my thing, but professionally I had to be involved.

When I left Madrid, my wife and kids were on holiday in Mallorca. Everything was completely fine between us.

About a week into my trip, my father in law suddenly became seriously ill and was admitted to the ICU. My wife called me repeatedly that night, along with my kids. I normally keep my phone on silent when I’m sleeping, so I didn't see the calls immediately.

When I called my wife back at morning, she was crying and told me what had happened. She asked me to come home

I immediately started looking for flights. The problem was that I had several important commitments over the next 3–4 days, including a major event hosted by one of our clients and a call with people from another company that I genuinely needed to attend. I told my wife I would come back as soon as I could.

Unfortunately, my father in law died that afternoon.

I started looking for flights again, but there weren't any suitable flights available for the next couple of days. I eventually booked the earliest flight I could get.

And this is where I completely screwed up.
That night, I still went to the client's party.
It was a big LA type event, I stayed late, and honestly, looking back, I understand how terrible that looks. My wife found out where I had been through a friend.

The next morning she was furious. She told me that while her father had just died, I was out partying in Los Angeles.

I tried explaining that the event had already been planned, that I was trying to get home, and that I had already booked my flight. But I realize now that none of that probably mattered to her in that moment.

I ended up changing my plans again, flew LA to London to Madrid, and arrived the following day.

By the time I got there, my wife, kids, mother in law and the rest of the family were already in another city preparing for the funeral.
When I arrived, nobody really spoke to me.
My wife wouldn't look at me. My mother in law was extremely cold toward me. Her brother and sister also barely acknowledged me.

Funeral happened, and I felt completely sidelined. It has now been six days. My wife has barely spoken to me. one time she did, she was extremely angry. I'm currently sleeping in another room.

I know I made a terrible decision by going to that party. I should probably have stayed in my hotel, even if I couldn't get an earlier flight. I can understand why seeing pictures or hearing that I was at a party while her father had just died would feel absolutely awful.

But at the same time, I genuinely was trying to get home. I wasn't choosing a party over my father in law's funeral. I was dealing with a work commitment, couldn't immediately get a flight, and had already booked the earliest one I could find.

My in laws and I have always been extremely close. I've known them for decades, and I've never treated them like they're just my wife's family. I loved my father in law too.

So I'm struggling with this.

Did I really deserve to be completely shut out and treated like I don't exist for six days?

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Shedsqueek · 28/08/2026 22:41

In my view it depends on what kind of party. Were you getting drunk, dancing on tables or just at a work related event. From all you have written you seem to have done everything you could do to get back. You didnt miss the funeral and in all honesty what could you have done or added. All the comments about how terrible a person you are and you could have gone back are ridiculous. You sound truly sorry. They are frankly being childish if they continue with the silent treatment.

DinosaurJuiceForEveryone · 28/08/2026 22:44

Agrumpyknitter · 28/08/2026 22:29

Completely agree with you. When my father died I was on a huge project (IT tech delivery) and there was no time to do a handover and give it to someone else so I carried on to see it through. I got given 3 weeks compassionate leave (discretionary) by my manager when it was finished around 10 days later.

Right, but if you were told he was in intensive care would that have changed anything? OP's wife was calling him throughout the night to say hed been rushed in, then he died in the afternoon. Obviously we are all different but I wpuld hate myself if I hadn't got to a dying parent when I was given the opportunity. If you get a call saying hes passed with zero warning then thats different isnt it? And if you had wanted to dash off when your df passed and wanted your spouse's support, would you expect to get it?

Rhaidimiddim · 29/08/2026 00:02

nomas · 28/08/2026 21:22

That’s not the same though. When you’re on the other side of the world on a business trip things are different.

No, I don't accept that. The weight of a loved one's dead, I believe, is the same wherever you are.

You get the news that Jim has died. If doesn't affect you differently because you're in LA with strangers, instead of in Oxford where you and he were based.

"Things" are certainly different when you're away, but grief still hits you. Which is what's missing here.

nomas · 29/08/2026 00:54

Rhaidimiddim · 29/08/2026 00:02

No, I don't accept that. The weight of a loved one's dead, I believe, is the same wherever you are.

You get the news that Jim has died. If doesn't affect you differently because you're in LA with strangers, instead of in Oxford where you and he were based.

"Things" are certainly different when you're away, but grief still hits you. Which is what's missing here.

But it’s not his father, it’s his father in law?

I like my FIL but I’m not going to be overcome by grief when he dies, I will support my DH though.

I don’t think my DH would expect me to fly back from an important business trip straightaway. Once you’ve made a commitment it’s hard to break it.

Comtesse · 29/08/2026 01:47

Overreaction on her part, not unreasonable given how recent it was. OP was the other side of the world not 20 mins down the road - it’s not that easy to get back sometimes.

soverymuchdone · 29/08/2026 02:24

What is the point of even having a husband if he can't be bothered to answer his phone or fly home in an emergency? Not only has your wife lost her father, she's been confronted with the fact that she's not in a marriage, she's in a part-time living arrangement with someone who will never put her first. No wonder she's angry.

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · 29/08/2026 03:32

BeeHive909 · 28/08/2026 17:23

You put work above your family and their needs and for me that would be the end of our relationship . There would have been flights and connecting flights you choose not to take them and went out partying . I’m genuinely not sure how you can repair the relationships because if it was my family we’d never ever forgive you

How would it go down if his job was threatened bc he upped and left in the middle of an important (he mentions great sum of money for business) working week away? You can’t just tell your boss you’re not going to be available for your role in a business deal bc someone outside your immediate family is very ill or has even passed away. If they’d fired him, what then?

I can see why his wife and family would be upset, even if it was unreasonable to expect him to return - it’s part of the grieving process. They would have been upset to think that he would have been in the state and frame of mind to attend a major party in LA when someone they assumed he was incredibly close to had just died. They would have taken it as a sign that he wasn’t devastated like they were. But he wasn’t, and many men especially wouldn’t be either in that situation I think.

It’s a general sweeping statement I know but where emotions are involved many men don’t process things in the same way as women do, altho having said that, I’m sure there are many women who would react similarly. They’d be sad but it’s not the same as losing their own parent so there’d be room for them to compartmentalise and still have fun, or at least attend something light-hearted. Perhaps the physical distance helped with this mindset too.

It was possibly very unwise and I’m sure the OP wouldn’t have announced it to his wife forget he choice, but he has been found out through the friend telling her instead. It was perhaps inappropriate but a difficult situation as it was arguably still a work-related event and if he wasn’t actually grieving then he’d be sat in the hotel room or in the bar for the evening instead of the party. But still not actually grieving. It could be argued if he WAS grieving, a party and lots of company would have helped him through a difficult time, but I understand totally that it comes across as just un-feeling towards the gravity of the situation and sombreness the occasion would warrant for most ppl.

The bottom line is it shows the OP wasn’t as affected by the death as his wife and in-laws were. Disappointing and hurtful to them but also understandable from an objective POV.

11AndCounting · 29/08/2026 04:00

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 28/08/2026 17:50

No he didn't, he cut it short after his wife found out about the party. Suddenly he was able to fly home early

That's not what it says in the OP...

waterrat · 29/08/2026 04:43

I would not expect my husband to cancel anything work or social for my fathers death.

Yes for the funeral but my dh is the main breadwinner and that includes social stuff for work too.

OnlyUsername · 29/08/2026 06:18

11AndCounting · 29/08/2026 04:00

That's not what it says in the OP...

Yes it is. He booked "the earliest flight he could", went to the party, she found out, then he "changed his plans again" and got home the following day via a non-direct flight.

Laurmolonlabe · 29/08/2026 08:01

Agrumpyknitter · 28/08/2026 22:29

Completely agree with you. When my father died I was on a huge project (IT tech delivery) and there was no time to do a handover and give it to someone else so I carried on to see it through. I got given 3 weeks compassionate leave (discretionary) by my manager when it was finished around 10 days later.

Every workplace I have ever worked in allowed immediate compassionate leave for a death in the family. I worked in the City of London alongside people on multimillion pound projects- they still dropped everything for a death in the family.
What is happening here is that men in particular like to think they are indispensible at work and hate being around hospitals and death- therefore they claim they couldn't possibly be spared-nonsense no one is irreplaceable.

JLou08 · 29/08/2026 08:13

You sound completely devoid of emotion. You say you booked a flight as soon as possible but talk more about the important work events. I'm not convinced you did book the earliest flight.
You say you've not been acknowledged but there's no consideration that they're grieving so won't be focused on trying to make you feel welcome.
You say you were close to your FIL too. If you were out at a party I highly doubt your grief is anything in comparison to your wife. You've no right to make this about you.

gannett · 29/08/2026 08:16

I don't think OP did anything wrong.

I wouldn't cut an overseas work trip short for FIL's death. I just asked DH whether he'd expect me to, and he looked at me as if I had two heads and said "of course not".

I wouldn't expect DH to cut anything short for my parents' deaths. It wouldn't cross my mind. If there's nothing practical he can do in person then what difference would coming home in a few days as planned make? He can provide the exact same emotional support over the phone as in person.

Every use of the word "partying" on this thread is extremely dramatic and OTT. A work event is not a fun party FFS. Even if there is booze and even if one or two conversations verge on being enjoyable, it is not "partying" in the proper sense.

gannett · 29/08/2026 08:19

SandyHappyPerson · 28/08/2026 18:01

My biggest fury would be at you putting your phone on silent, your wife and children are in a different country and you put your phone on silent, why? You don't suddenly stop being a father and husband when on a work trip.. I think you are massively unreasonable to put your phone on silent when you're not working.

You didn't answer your phone when she needed you.

You told her you would be back as soon as you could, but actually planned on coming home 4 days later.

You went out to a party the evening he died and kept it secret.

Not sure what sort of welcome you expected to be honest.

This is the most bonkers opinion on this thread. My phone is on silent all the time, especially when I'm asleep. What did you people do before mobile phones became universally available? The expectation of instant, 24/7 contact is relatively recent and it's not a healthy one.

pearpudding · 29/08/2026 10:21

Rhaidimiddim · 29/08/2026 00:02

No, I don't accept that. The weight of a loved one's dead, I believe, is the same wherever you are.

You get the news that Jim has died. If doesn't affect you differently because you're in LA with strangers, instead of in Oxford where you and he were based.

"Things" are certainly different when you're away, but grief still hits you. Which is what's missing here.

Not just grief, but also missing is a desire to support his wife at a terrible time in her life.

allthiscarryon · 29/08/2026 10:28

jooooosh · 28/08/2026 17:15

Need some perspective here because I am currently sleeping in the spare room and nobody in my family will talk to me.

I'm 44M and my wife is 44F. We've been together since we were teenagers, married for many years, and have three kids. We're very close to each other's families. My in laws have basically known me since I was a kid, so they’ve always treated me like family.

About three weeks ago, I had to travel from Madrid to Los Angeles for a very important work project. There was a huge amount of money involved and some very wealthy clients, so I had several meetings and events that had been planned well in advance. Honestly, their lifestyle isn't really my thing, but professionally I had to be involved.

When I left Madrid, my wife and kids were on holiday in Mallorca. Everything was completely fine between us.

About a week into my trip, my father in law suddenly became seriously ill and was admitted to the ICU. My wife called me repeatedly that night, along with my kids. I normally keep my phone on silent when I’m sleeping, so I didn't see the calls immediately.

When I called my wife back at morning, she was crying and told me what had happened. She asked me to come home

I immediately started looking for flights. The problem was that I had several important commitments over the next 3–4 days, including a major event hosted by one of our clients and a call with people from another company that I genuinely needed to attend. I told my wife I would come back as soon as I could.

Unfortunately, my father in law died that afternoon.

I started looking for flights again, but there weren't any suitable flights available for the next couple of days. I eventually booked the earliest flight I could get.

And this is where I completely screwed up.
That night, I still went to the client's party.
It was a big LA type event, I stayed late, and honestly, looking back, I understand how terrible that looks. My wife found out where I had been through a friend.

The next morning she was furious. She told me that while her father had just died, I was out partying in Los Angeles.

I tried explaining that the event had already been planned, that I was trying to get home, and that I had already booked my flight. But I realize now that none of that probably mattered to her in that moment.

I ended up changing my plans again, flew LA to London to Madrid, and arrived the following day.

By the time I got there, my wife, kids, mother in law and the rest of the family were already in another city preparing for the funeral.
When I arrived, nobody really spoke to me.
My wife wouldn't look at me. My mother in law was extremely cold toward me. Her brother and sister also barely acknowledged me.

Funeral happened, and I felt completely sidelined. It has now been six days. My wife has barely spoken to me. one time she did, she was extremely angry. I'm currently sleeping in another room.

I know I made a terrible decision by going to that party. I should probably have stayed in my hotel, even if I couldn't get an earlier flight. I can understand why seeing pictures or hearing that I was at a party while her father had just died would feel absolutely awful.

But at the same time, I genuinely was trying to get home. I wasn't choosing a party over my father in law's funeral. I was dealing with a work commitment, couldn't immediately get a flight, and had already booked the earliest one I could find.

My in laws and I have always been extremely close. I've known them for decades, and I've never treated them like they're just my wife's family. I loved my father in law too.

So I'm struggling with this.

Did I really deserve to be completely shut out and treated like I don't exist for six days?

Your wife and kids and family needed you and weren’t there. You monumentally fucked up.

This will have repercussions for a long time- you’re going to have to accept that. You’ve broken trust and you’ll have to earn that back.

if my DW had done this I would genuinely be reconsidering why I’m with her.

allthiscarryon · 29/08/2026 10:41

A good friend very sr in a film company. Was in USA for BIG meetings about funding a new project. Incredibly important. Crucial they were there.
SIL suddenly passed away in the U.K.
Friend told the studio that they were going to have to leave, flew home that night.
Got back to be with the DH and children.
Had to do some video stuff, some calls etc but crucially was at home for her family. had told a STUDIO that they had a family emergency and needed to miss the next in persons meetings, the dinners and the whatever’s.

Were the studio people
pissed? Maybe. Were they surprised? Maybe. Was it the right thing to do? Yes. Did the project get greenlit anyway? Yes.

Sorry OP, but you fucked up but more importantly your DW is still in the early stages of grief so even if she eventually
comes around to your POV - unlikely- now is not the time to expect everyone to be fine that you chose to stay and went to a fucking party to boot.

And yes I do understand that at work things sometimes the lunches, dinners and events are as important as taking the meeting but you should have got your arse back home asap.

Yellowpingu · 29/08/2026 10:42

wellington77 · 28/08/2026 22:00

I think they are over reacting, sometimes work is hard to drop just like that and you were in another country, I’m not sure how you would have been any help being there anyway. You went to the funeral which is the main event isn’t it

No, the funeral isn’t the ‘main event’ when it comes to close family members. Anyone can turn up to a funeral, eat the sandwiches and drink the tea. What matters is being there to hold your DW tight when she’s falling apart, making sure she remembers to eat and drink herself, taking care of any children and pets, speaking with anyone your DW doesn’t want to or is unable to deal with herself because she’s too upset or because the person isn’t high on their list of importance. My DH was pretty useless when my DF
died over 20 years ago and went out with his brother the night we expected him to die. He was there for his funeral but a bit of me hung onto that resentment until recently when my DM died and it really couldn’t have managed without his support.

Databreach · 29/08/2026 12:45

I would struggle to forgive this.

allthiscarryon · 29/08/2026 13:10

‘I think they are over reacting, sometimes work is hard to drop just like that’

For the death of a close family member? No, it really isn’t. OP put the ‘needs’ of Bob or Jeff or Susan or whatever the client was called before the needs of his wife & kids. What’s the point of him if not to be there when his family needs it?

Unless you’re a job mid-brain surgery saving a life, you can leave work.

SunnyRedSnail · 29/08/2026 13:30

Databreach · 29/08/2026 12:45

I would struggle to forgive this.

Why? He booked the earliest direct flight home and went to a pre-planned business event. Why would sitting in his hotel room do any good?

Most people turn their phone onto silent at night.

@jooooosh as she couldn't reach your mobile, did she phone the hotel?

Because if I was your wife and desperately needed to get hold of you, I would have phoned the hotel.

I appreciate your wife is grieving but I think she is taking her grief out on you and being really unfair.

CinnamonJellyBeans · 29/08/2026 13:53

She's being stupid. He's already dead. I'll bet she doesn't say no to your wages.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/08/2026 13:58

CinnamonJellyBeans · 29/08/2026 13:53

She's being stupid. He's already dead. I'll bet she doesn't say no to your wages.

OMG there's something seriously wrong with you! From a previous thread by the OP who was complaining about his wife then, she is an extremely high earner earning more than OP so your mean-spirited post isn't even accurate.

WearyAuldWumman · 29/08/2026 14:15

Yes, some people seem to be taking the view that it's okay because it was 'only' the OP's FIL, not his father.

The fact of the matter is that it was his wife who needed him.

WearyAuldWumman · 29/08/2026 14:17

CinnamonJellyBeans · 29/08/2026 13:53

She's being stupid. He's already dead. I'll bet she doesn't say no to your wages.

I think that's the view that my DH's adult children took when he died: "He's already dead." Like you, they ignored the fact that it's the bereaved person who needs the support.

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