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To not want to spend more money on horses?

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tommyknocker1982 · 24/08/2026 21:42

My wife and I are at loggerheads on this, so I'm looking for outside opinions...

Bit of background - we're in our 40's and both work, and we have 2 daughters, 15 and 12. I don't ride but my wife and daughters do. We bought our first horse a couple of years ago. I was firmly against it, but my family appealed constantly, and my wife provided a breakdown of the costs, which turned out to be a wild underestimate.

A year later, that horse had some health issues and my wife said he wasn't suitable for our youngest daughter. So, I switched to work full time and we bought a second horse. Since then, the horse related costs have escalated endlessly (vets, van hire, trips to the saddlery...) and I'd guess we now spend around £25k a year on horses.

I've agreed to getting a 4x4 and horse trailer, but the next ask is that my wife wants us to move to a "house with land", so that she can keep the horses at home.

And this is where we clash. Acres of land in the south east is expensive, and would mean either moving into a worse house than we have now, or taking out a huge mortgage. I don't want an equestrian lifestyle. I don't want the extra maintenance, I don't like the smell, and I don't want to live in a rural backwater so I can have animals staring at me through my kitchen window. Am I being unreasonable to say "no, I don't want to spend any more on horses"?

I Am Being Unreasonable - I should agree to my wife's demand. Live a life I don't want, and probably face more escalating costs even with them living with us at home.

I Am NOT Being Unreasonable - I say "enough is enough". We spend enough already and need to draw a line under it.

OP posts:
PatchworkCow · 25/08/2026 02:36

TheQueenOfEverything · 25/08/2026 02:20

I don't think it was that situation at all! How would her husband know how much sheath cleaning costs, advantage taken sad but unfortunately true

If his wife wasn't such a princess, it would cost £2.99 for a packet of baby wipes, £1.99 for a box of latex gloves and £1.55 for a bottle of BP liquid paraffin (from the pharmacy, not the stuff for lamps).

PatchworkCow · 25/08/2026 02:52

OP just another thought if costs have skyrocketed unexpectedly...

How often do you go to the yard? How well do you know "your" horses, could you pick them out of a lineup?
"Secret" horses are a thing, you would be the first and I doubt you'd be the last, to own more than you realised.

WearyAuldWumman · 25/08/2026 03:34

Helpisonitsway · 24/08/2026 21:48

Sounds like 3 against 1 so suck it up OP

Children really don't get a vote in these circumstances. It's the adults who are paying for this.

I wanted to learn to play the piano when I was a child. We didn't have the room for a piano (no weighted electric keyboards in those days) and my parents couldn't afford a piano. I was allowed to play an alternative instrument.

If I'm understanding correctly, the OP has had to take on extra work already. If the wife is insistent, then she needs to work more in order to afford this expensive hobby.

Globules · 25/08/2026 03:44

tommyknocker1982 · 24/08/2026 23:07

I was working 4 days before, but went back to full time. My wife works 4 days. I wouldn't want or expect her to work full time - it wouldn't make acres of land any more affordable, so she may as well enjoy the day off with the horses.

I think you've already compromised enough by going back to work today extra day to pay for the horses.

You need an honest chat with her and agree a solution together.

My friend has horses at home. I would not want to live her life. Or spend that money. She, and her 3 daughters, love it. Her DH is happy to spend his money on the horses as it makes his girls happy. I know he'd prefer to spend the money on other things though.

MrsBatshitRatshit · 25/08/2026 04:35

YANBU to refuse to live in rural isolation amid piles of horse dung but YABU to complain about working full time. Most of us manage it.

Credittocress · 25/08/2026 05:17

I’d rather pay into a mortgage on the land so it’s yours eventually and you get any growth in value rather than pour money down the drain on livery.

Edamummybean · 25/08/2026 05:48

How do your wife’s plans feature in your longer term financial planning? Your daughters will likely need university expenses covering in a few years’ time. What is the impact of this horse-related expenditure on your retirement planning? You should be looking to clear your mortgage asap to cover those costs and build your savings. Your wife’s costings were already woefully inaccurate. In your shoes I’d be looking to wind back expenditure, not adding to it. It’s easy to miss the longer term impact in your 40s and it’s almost too late to change course by your 50s.

tommyknocker1982 · 25/08/2026 05:57

Pistachiocake · 24/08/2026 21:55

If a man tried to force his wife to move/change jobs/spend most of her money and time on a hobby that the kids might well get fed up with in a year or two, we'd say he was cruel.
And if my husband tried to pull this, I'd tell him where to go. But then, I'm not a horse person, so I'll probably get shouted down by those who are.

I don't think any of the girls will ever get fed up with the horses. They're all obsessed. Even I don't dislike horses - I've always said they're a wholesome hobby which keeps them out of trouble, fills their time, teaches them responsibility etc...

But, they are 15 and 12, so they'll be off to uni and starting their own lives while the horses are in our field munching grass, staring though my kitchen window...

OP posts:
Wallywobbles · 25/08/2026 06:10

My horses are 20&27. They are very very very expensive ornaments.

Mapletree1985 · 25/08/2026 06:26

tommyknocker1982 · 24/08/2026 21:42

My wife and I are at loggerheads on this, so I'm looking for outside opinions...

Bit of background - we're in our 40's and both work, and we have 2 daughters, 15 and 12. I don't ride but my wife and daughters do. We bought our first horse a couple of years ago. I was firmly against it, but my family appealed constantly, and my wife provided a breakdown of the costs, which turned out to be a wild underestimate.

A year later, that horse had some health issues and my wife said he wasn't suitable for our youngest daughter. So, I switched to work full time and we bought a second horse. Since then, the horse related costs have escalated endlessly (vets, van hire, trips to the saddlery...) and I'd guess we now spend around £25k a year on horses.

I've agreed to getting a 4x4 and horse trailer, but the next ask is that my wife wants us to move to a "house with land", so that she can keep the horses at home.

And this is where we clash. Acres of land in the south east is expensive, and would mean either moving into a worse house than we have now, or taking out a huge mortgage. I don't want an equestrian lifestyle. I don't want the extra maintenance, I don't like the smell, and I don't want to live in a rural backwater so I can have animals staring at me through my kitchen window. Am I being unreasonable to say "no, I don't want to spend any more on horses"?

I Am Being Unreasonable - I should agree to my wife's demand. Live a life I don't want, and probably face more escalating costs even with them living with us at home.

I Am NOT Being Unreasonable - I say "enough is enough". We spend enough already and need to draw a line under it.

Why should you be working so hard to fund a lifesyle you hate? If they want horses, let them work to earn the money to pay for it. You already know that the horse life is an endless money pit. The demands and debts will pile up. I know someone this happened to, including the move to a rural area and everything else. The resentment grew so great they eventually split.

A marriage has to involve compromise. You need to find a way to compromise on the horses.

Mapletree1985 · 25/08/2026 06:31

PatchworkCow · 25/08/2026 01:29

OP this whole situation is mental. Horses cost what you want them to cost, basically.

I had horses. I wanted all the bells and whistles too but I couldn't afford it. So, [shocker] - I didn't have them! It was 5yrs ago so prices will have risen a bit and I live in a cheap area, but I kept two for £3.5k total per year. Prior to that in an expensive area of the country it cost that much for just one.

Both had health issues, which were managed with herbs, creams, sprays, exercise and good levels of basic horse care. I did absolutely everything myself.

I didn't compete unless I could ride to the venue. Transport was only hired if I was moving to a new yard too far away to ride (so 25+ miles away, under that and they were got fit and ridden there). They didn't have shoes and I deliberately bought horses with hard feet so that I could get away with that, by also limiting roadwork by ensuring I was on yards with off-road hacking and arena or field to ride in.

They had two seconds hand saddles each, one that fitted for winter after the annual diet and one for summer when they'd naturally get quite fat. They never saw a saddler because I've got eyes in my head and could adequately tell when I needed to swap the saddles over. Because the tack was thoroughly cleaned monthly at a minimum, it never broke so it never needed replacing.

Because I took good care of the horses and because I bought tough types, a lot of the types of niggly everyday problems that tend to crop up with horses just didn't. It's surprising how much of that can be avoided by good care, including adequate work after a suitable fitness program and decent first aid in a timely manner. In their lifetimes they saw a vet once and twice respectively for a small cut in an awkward place that may have become infected and twice each for a contagious disease brought to the yard by someone else's horse, which they then caught. Other than that they saw the vet annually for vaccines and every second year they had teeth rasping. Farrier for a trim 4 times a year.

Stabled nights and out days all year round, except for a month or two in summer when they'd be out 24/7 and a month in winter when the fields were shut and they were in 24/7 and exercised daily by me.

No insurance except free public liability cover obtained by joining an organisation and I always knew there'd be no veterinary treatment other than that which could be provided at the yard. Had a disaster occurred they'd have had to be PTS, not operated on and lengthy recuperation. One was PTS due to advanced arthritis in old age and the other in middle age due to lifelong behavioural issues (would have been unethical to sell and not in horse's best interests) when my own health failed and I couldn't keep horses any more.

There's absolutely no need whatsoever to spend £25k/year. It's entirely possible to live a modified version of The Dream and be totally happy. There's no need to work yourself into the ground or bankrupt yourself to be involved with horses, especially when you're not even the horsey one!

My suggestion is the competitions stop, except one outing a year as a treat, then you can forget about the endless ongoing transport costs too. The DC can share a horse, which means owning one big enough for the larger DC and calm enough for the least capable rider. Tough shit if that isn't the horse of their dreams, it's still a horse, which is more than the majority of DC get.

Your wife could have whatever type of horse she can afford the running costs for on her wages from her disposable income after all family related bills (including for DC's horse) are paid by you both. It's literally her hobby, you don't have to fund it. If she's got any sense and kindness, it'll be a horse that at least one of the DC can ride safely occasionally, so the DC can ride together sometimes and not always have to go with mum if they want company. It also helps with exercising the horses if mum is short of time.

Your family need to get a grip. You're not a cash cow and the family isn't rich enough to be able to live The Dream to full and complete effect. It's time they accepted that and stopped being so selfish.

This is great advice.

I suggest OP talks to a couple of stable owners in his area to get an idea of what is possible on his budget without upending his life completely.

LostNFoundSV · 25/08/2026 06:33

Happy wife, happy life. Your choice …

grinandslothit · 25/08/2026 06:34

I agree that it's time to cut back it is a huge expense does your wife have any plans to retire at all? All that money could be saved for retirement

ToddlersAreBananas · 25/08/2026 06:41

There's no right answer OP.
... Just wanted to say that you sound like a very nice person ☺️

RampantIvy · 25/08/2026 06:44

Pistachiocake · 24/08/2026 21:55

If a man tried to force his wife to move/change jobs/spend most of her money and time on a hobby that the kids might well get fed up with in a year or two, we'd say he was cruel.
And if my husband tried to pull this, I'd tell him where to go. But then, I'm not a horse person, so I'll probably get shouted down by those who are.

I agree with you. I'm not a horse person either.

Sheep85 · 25/08/2026 06:53

It’s the livery that’s the expensive part. Find a DIY yard. It would be madness to move to a house with land without the experience of looking after the horses yourselves all the time.
I have horses and have never had them in livery always at home. Which is lucky in many ways and a lot cheaper but it’s a major commitment that i basically plan my life around.

UhOhRatPoo · 25/08/2026 07:01

What anlut the impact on your life OP? Being unable to go away because the horses need care, constant horse care activity going on at home, the smell, the early starts, the events taking up so much time and brain space. must already be crap with them off at the livery all weekend. I feel for you, you seem abandoned and used as a cash machine.

Steeleydan · 25/08/2026 07:16

Howmanycatsistoomany · 24/08/2026 23:30

£200 for a sheath cleaning?! Takes 5 minutes, a pair of disposable gloves, and a bucket of warm water.

I totally agree with you,always done it myself, however now the age of equine willy washers they charge £50, iam guessing the horse wasnt keen and had to be iv sedated by vet , so with bet callout visit, dom & torb is expensive, thats the other £150!
These people are no way ready to have their horses at home

Passaggressfedup · 25/08/2026 07:23

Very very sadly, this could be the end of your marriage. If they are obsessed, it's highly likely they'll prioritise the horses and ignore your wishes. That's the danger of obsession, it becomes an addiction.

If you go with it, the resentment will eat away any love for your wife and the frustration will rule your life.

I think it's reach the point where only counselling might be your saviour.

Dozer · 25/08/2026 07:23

YANBU for having limits and not agreeing to move house - further, huge expense - for wife’s hobby and lifestyle.

Wife is U to push for so much more than you originally agreed to and not to work full time when costs are so high. Still U if you’re rich.

Has its dangers and drawbacks as a hobby for the DC, and anyway you’re already supporting the hobby.

FlyingBeGoat · 25/08/2026 07:29

tommyknocker1982 · 24/08/2026 23:07

I was working 4 days before, but went back to full time. My wife works 4 days. I wouldn't want or expect her to work full time - it wouldn't make acres of land any more affordable, so she may as well enjoy the day off with the horses.

I think you have hit the tipping point now, if you are have to work extra to subsidise their hobby it’s time for a family discussion about what they are going to do to reduce the costs

AnonyLonnymouse · 25/08/2026 07:31

Sorry, but I had to smile at ‘animals looking at me through my kitchen window’. 😁

I loved horses as a girl and had a couple of lessons, but my parents couldn’t afford it so that was that. Did I resent them forevermore? No, I just accepted it as the way things were.

Horse ownership often strikes me as something from a bygone era, unless you have inherited your own land, have a very high disposable income or take on board some of the excellent advice on doing it cheaply, upthread. It’s not the 1930s when land was as cheap as chips and you could hire a groom for a couple of pounds a week and a crummy room above the stables…

I read a post on the tack room board where someone’s partner was complaining about her horse-owning costs. She explained her budget and it turned out that she was claiming government tax credits for her children, yet somehow managing to keep a horse. Where do you start with that? It was delusional and she clearly couldn’t afford it.

I can see that horses are wonderful for keeping teenagers busy but other extracurricular activities offer similar benefits, are cheaper, easier to keep going in adulthood or lead more directly to career pathways. If you become good at music you can do that at university or anywhere that other musicians might hang out. There are also quite broad career options in teaching or performing. Every secondary school in the land has a music teacher and a rotating cast of instrumental teachers. The qualifications can be put on an application form and carry UCAS points above Grade 6. It can be easily picked up or put down around exams or other commitments. Horses aren’t the only route to happy, busy and engaged teens.

No particular advice apart from:
a) don’t move house, just don’t do it;
b) consider part-loaning out the horses to reduce the costs;
c) don’t replace them if one of them is no longer around.

MaryLennoxsScowl · 25/08/2026 07:31

What @PatchworkCow said. We had three horses growing up. They were out all year round, my dad built them a shelter, fenced the field once (I don’t think the fence has ever needed mending and that was thirty years ago), and sectioned it off using moveable electric fencing for rotating grazing, they had a stream in the field so no carting water. They weren’t shod, we hacked off-road, and they were only insured against damage to other people. They weren’t clipped so weren’t rugged. They got hay in winter that we grew and the farmer down the road cut it in exchange for taking some of it himself. We didn’t poop-scoop in the field and we put the neighbour’s sheep on it sometimes instead of topping it. We did muck out the shelter. We pulled out ragwort ourselves and we walked the field every day naturally just walking the dog, so you pulled up ragwort if you saw it. We got the vet if needed but honestly I think they hardly ever needed them. There is no way they cost the sort of money people are listing here, and when we went on holiday they stayed out as they always were out, and we got a friend/family member to pop over twice a week to check nothing had happened.

QuirkyHorse · 25/08/2026 07:34

Your wife is being v unreasonable.
The problem is, not only the cost of the property, as you rightly say but the extras you will "need".

I had my horse at home. We didn't buy the property to bring her home, we bought it to build business premises on as well.
She came home and the muck heap grew disproportionately for 1 horse 🤣. I used to square it off but dh wanted to spread it on the land. So he bought a tractor. Then he bought harrowing chains and various attachments for the tractor. He was happy to do this but do not underestimate the ongoing costs. I'm sure you haven't but your wife may well have minimised them.

Yes, it is lovely having them at home but it isn't the be all and end all.

DrBlackbird · 25/08/2026 07:35

ToddlersAreBananas · 25/08/2026 06:41

There's no right answer OP.
... Just wanted to say that you sound like a very nice person ☺️

Well, I don’t think he was very nice to frame his AIBU as I should agree to my wife's demand.

Is she ‘demanding’? Demanding to move makes her sound like an unreasonable bad tempered harridan. But if she’s asking or requesting or suggesting or even pleading, then you are BU and not v nice person.