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To think monogamy survives mostly on denial, not devotion?

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SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 16:08

Most people who preach loyalty also flirt with escape. We like the idea of forever, not the practice.

AIBU to think monogamy only works when both partners keep choosing it daily, not pretending it’s effortless?

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MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 05/11/2025 22:26

SageSorrelSaffron · 05/11/2025 07:00

Can I just say, I’m happy for you that you found your forever at 14, but that last sentence is so so smug and shitty, that it has slipped into Hubris.

It is so beyond anything acceptable, and the ‘who hurt you?’ questioning, as if the OP, or anyone, owes you some insight into her life so your get to use it as gossip fodder, or even worse, to scold her about it.

I’m a lot older than you, and I would say you should mind your business, at 36 you’re still practically a baby.

OP has started this thread….

OP’s own words:
‘Most people who preach loyalty also flirt with escape. We like the idea of forever, not the practice.
AIBU to think monogamy only works when both partners keep choosing it daily, not pretending it’s effortless?’

‘When things are good, monogamy probably does feel effortless. I’m more interested in how people handle it when that effortless stage wears off. For some, staying devoted becomes an intentional act rather than just a feeling. That’s the bit I think most people gloss over.’

The idea that ‘choosing’ monogamy and that devotion is an intentional act sounds exhausting! And it’s smug to say that I disagree? That it’s only effortless in the beginning?

OP’s views appeared to have been skewed. Have these questions been raised due to past bad experience? Why has OP started this thread on AIBU public forum if no one can question OP on where these views have came from?

I don’t know OP and I don’t gossip….so your comments really don’t make sense….

Age is just a number….if I post that I have been with my husband 22 years people think I am much older than I am due to the average age people meet their OH, if I say my age I have people like you telling me I am a baby. It’s a no win!

FlyingUnicornWings · 05/11/2025 09:32

Zimunya · 04/11/2025 16:22

There's a difference between lust and love, and seeing and doing. My friend once commented that a passing guy was handsome, and her daughter was outraged. "Why? said my friend, "I'm married, not blind." We can all appreciate beauty, whether that's an amazing piece of art, or a gorgeous person, but we don't have to own it to admire it.

As others posters have said, I'm loyal to my DH, and it is pretty effortless. I love him. I want to be married to him. That doesn't mean I don't notice other men, just as I'm sure he notices other women.

“I’m married, not blind” 😆

Effortless here too. I can appreciate a good looking man (head turns towards the Skarsgaard brothers), but the attraction to my husband is more than just finding him handsome. It’s a deep, multilevelled bond. I haven’t “fancied” another man since I laid eyes on him.

XWKD · 05/11/2025 09:28

I've been devoted to the same man for thirty years. Too bad he wasn't interested in me. 🤣

Roseshavethorns · 05/11/2025 09:24

Most things in life are choices to some degree whether conscious or unconscious.
Monogamy has been completely, unconsciously, effortless for me. So yes whilst I unconsciously choose to be monogamous the choice doesn't occupy a single second of my time.

PetuniaP · 05/11/2025 07:51

Love is a verb, not just a feeling. It is an action, a choice. Sometimes it is easier than others to choose to love someone.

dailyconniptions · 05/11/2025 07:37

Threads like this always bring out those in perfect marriages saying they've no idea what you mean OP. But yes, in essence I agree with you.

ReyRey12 · 05/11/2025 07:33

I feel like it is laziness and society. Finding another sexual partner requires effort. Majority of people won't have multiple people going after them an d requiring nust saying yes. You have to work for it.

Also monogamy is the acceptable relationship. If multiple partners was the norm, people would do that more.

Holdonforsummer · 05/11/2025 07:29

I’m 27 years in and the effortless stage hasn’t worn off yet. I can’t think of anything worse than bumping uglies with new people and risking all kinds of STis……

Gerranium · 05/11/2025 07:27

Whoever suggested monogamy was effortless? It requires work like anything worth having - friendships, career, etc.

I’ve been with DH for a decade and he’s the one for me. Is he perfect? No. Am I? No. Does he set my heart aflutter? Not as much as he used to. Is he massively annoying at times? Yes. Have I occasionally wondered whether it would be better on my own? Yes, obviously. But when it comes to the crunch I don’t, not because of denial but because fundamentally, it works, and I can’t imagine life without him.

Sevenamcoffee · 05/11/2025 07:26

I don’t feel like OP is suggesting anything particularly controversial here in that long term monogamous relationships usually need some ongoing work and shouldn’t be taken for granted.

I am always interested on threads about cheating that people say you can’t love someone and cheat on them at the same time and the feeling that as long as you have this love from your partner you will be protected from infidelity. I think a lot of people get caught out by this personally.

I want to know more about how people define love in their long term romantic relationships. I know what unconditional love feels like because I have that for dd but it isn’t really unconditional for dh as it’s way more dependent on how he treats me. It’s more about maintaining the connection between us and this does take noticing, communication and a bit of work on both sides.

WaltzingWaters · 05/11/2025 07:22

BashfulClam · 04/11/2025 16:14

It is effortless. I love my husband and therefore I don’t want anyone else. I can appreciate a good looking man but I don’t ’fancy’ them in that way. I think it’s more that you chose a partner and are no longer in love.

Exactly this. Oh I had a lot of “fun” before I met my partner. But I now have absolutely no desire to be with anyone else.
Mostly because I love him and am incredibly attracted to him, we have an amazing sex life, super comfortable with him in every way.
But there’s probably a little bit of “jeez, can’t be bothered with flirting and having sex with anyone else” now too!
Granted, we’ve only been together for 6 years. Maybe in another 20 I’ll be fed up and feel differently, but I certainly hope not!

Thepeopleversuswork · 05/11/2025 07:14

I think after the honeymoon period monogamy is mainly built on inertia and the desire to avoid having more work to do.

I am monogamous (and happy) but the prospect of infidelity just makes me feel exhausted. I don’t want another tiring workstream.

DoAWheelie · 05/11/2025 07:12

I think there are people who are naturally monogamous and for them it's no effort at all. I fall into this camp and my 15 year relationship with my late OH wasn't something we had to work at. We just felt whole around each other and felt something was missing when we were apart, so wanted to be around each other all the time.

There are also people who are not naturally monogamous and for them, they are able to do it and be happy, but it takes conscious work and effort. Outside temptations pop up and require willpower to turn down.

And there is a small group who monogamy is a cage for, and they will never be really happy in a longer relationship. They either don't want to be tied down to anyone, or want several relationships at the same time.

I don't think anyone in one camp should be judging how people in the other camps cope as we are going through completely different things. I do think it's a shame that our society is so built around two people being tied together for life as it's stifling for some people and causes a lot of unnecessary heartbreak.

I wish people were more able to explore who they truly are and what makes them happy before they make big commitments, and that alternative lifestyles were not seen as "less than".

SageSorrelSaffron · 05/11/2025 07:00

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 04/11/2025 17:06

I’ve been with my husband 22 years…..we’re only 36.
It is effortless! We’ve faced hard times together (infertility, miscarriages, he suddenly became seriously ill and developed a life long condition that affects him and our family) but our relationship was the easiest part of all that.
Hes says the same! I feel incredibly lucky to have found my person I want to be with so young!
You sound bitter OP, who has hurt you?

Can I just say, I’m happy for you that you found your forever at 14, but that last sentence is so so smug and shitty, that it has slipped into Hubris.

It is so beyond anything acceptable, and the ‘who hurt you?’ questioning, as if the OP, or anyone, owes you some insight into her life so your get to use it as gossip fodder, or even worse, to scold her about it.

I’m a lot older than you, and I would say you should mind your business, at 36 you’re still practically a baby.

TheendofmrY · 04/11/2025 18:03

I find monogamy very easy if the alternative you’re comparing it to is having multiple partners. It’s the decision to be bothered making the effort to continue with monogamy over single/celibate life that requires daily effort and commitment if you ask me!

Livelaughlurgy · 04/11/2025 18:02

I thought the thread read Mahogany and thought I know my Granny was devoted to her mahogany but not sure what the denial is all about.

TattooStan · 04/11/2025 17:52

We've been together 20 years. A couple of times, we've been through a bad patch. I stay because DH is fundamentally a really good egg - he's collecting me from the train station this evening because it's raining, for instance. We've got 2 decades of history, which it would be such a shame to throw away, unless things were really dire. I can picture being 50, 60 and 70 with him - he evolves, as do I, and we always seem to continue to rub along well.
If I think about leaving him, it's brief, and I realise I can't be arsed to sell the house and untangle our shared finances and shared friends, and have joint custody of the dog!
So I continue to make monogamy work through a combination of deep love, friendship, a strategic eye on the future, and apathy!

Candlesandmatches · 04/11/2025 17:43

Love is a choice. It’s also an emotion. But when life gets hard it’s more of a choice. But I meant my wedding vows. They were vows. They are until death. So I try to live them every day. And I hope that DH will too. And God helps us along. Both of us have flaws and have and maybe will hurt each other. But I continent to choose my marriage.

SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 17:41

ConflictofInterest · 04/11/2025 17:35

Choosing it daily sounds exhausting. Surely for most monogamous couples it's just not something they think about most of the time? For me it's never on my mind so I don't need to choose it. It's effortless because I never think about it. I've got marriage/sex/relationship ticked off in my mind. My daily choices are around what to eat, what to read, what to book for the weekend, other men haven't crossed my mind in about 20 years.

I think for some people it is natural, which is probably ideal. I meant that for others, choosing it daily is less about struggle and more about awareness, like not taking the relationship for granted.

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LilyCanna · 04/11/2025 17:40

Zero effort to stay monogamous here! Maintaining a good relationship takes effort though I think (perhaps some people find even that effortless!). But mainly that’s about finding compromises on that thing that’s pointless to you but really important to them. And communicating what’s important to you. Knowing when to cut each other some slack. That kind of thing.

Weefreetiffany · 04/11/2025 17:39

I like my partner, i like getting to know him. We have to conciously choose each other as we change with life and experiences, but thats not a hardship as we both value monogamy and growing together, not apart. It can be boring and anazing, just like anything in life that goes on for a while. Its hard, but so is starting over again and again, and not learning how to be satisfied with yourself and your partner. Choose your hard.

SteadyStormJay · 04/11/2025 17:39

You seem very invested in other people’s posting habits. Touch some grass.

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FellowSuffereroftheAbsurd · 04/11/2025 17:38

The title makes no sense with the question - Choosing each other daily is not denial - that is devotion. Devotion is intentional, it isn't an emotion.

When things are good, monogamy probably does feel effortless. I’m more interested in how people handle it when that effortless stage wears off. For some, staying devoted becomes an intentional act rather than just a feeling. That’s the bit I think most people gloss over.

Not sure it gets glossed over - maybe in movies, but there is a whole world of relationship research that discusses that no relationship can be based on a feeling, any solid base is intentional.

IME, ease in that intentionality in relationships comes and goes and importantly can return, often influenced by the environment, experience, as well as intentionally.

I'm more than two decades in and marriage/monogamy is easier than ever, far easier than the start. It is essentially effortless at this point as what we've built habits and woven our stories and lives together in a way that's really enjoyable.

The hardest part of my marriage was about 10-15 years in when we were dealing with multiple loved ones going through terminal illnesses, the care responsibilities of both that and young children, managing the dying and deaths of loved ones with young children & culture clashes within the family on how dying and death should be managed with children and on top of that, I was in my late 20s and early 30s (married at 18), and surrounded by people who were unhappy with whatever situation they were in, wanting more, and sadly had this idea that I think media fuels that if we're facing struggles in some area of life, then there must be an issue with our main relationships as well. I cannot tell you how many times during that time period I had unhappy people, women particularly, telling me that the reason I felt stressed had to be my marriage and/or my husband, and how often I had people unsolicited and with no knowledge of my relationship, who I never discussed my relationship with at any point beyond them knowing I was married with kids, recommend divorce, giving up men, and/or polyamory in various flavours. It ate at me when I was at my weakest. It was nothing in my marriage that was hard, it was the experiences going on around me in those hell years that made life in general hard, and those voice pushed the lens onto my marriage in a way that at times made it appear so.

I came out of that by changing who I was around, working through the losses in my life - both literal in the deaths of loved ones and in those relationships that once really mattered but turned out to be harmful - and intentionally focusing more on my marriage, my home, and relearning what I actually enjoy, not the things that other people told me would make me happy that repeatedly failed.

Now in my 40s, I've changed careers twice since then, I'm mainly around people who are fairly happy in their situations, whether it's happily single or partnered up, and compared to being in my 20s, it's really not as big part of our conversations. My oldest is in his twenties, and three other kids in their teens, I'm no longer in the high stress of little ones or caring for the dying. It's little wonder marriage is a lot easier now.

And really, my early marriage was filled with the stress of immigration, kids, and young adult life, and seeing my own adult children at those ages - I absolutely have no desire to be back at that, even with all the lovely emotions and hormones, life was hard times, which pushes at any relationship - what I've built in the mean time with my husband and wider loved ones is so beyond what young me knew was possible. I'm quite happy to intentionally pick devotion.

ChaToilLeam · 04/11/2025 17:37

Honestly, it requires no effort whatsoever. I'm not interested in any other man. Affairs, open relationships, poly, swinging etc - apart from the ick they give me, they all sound bloody exhausting.

ConflictofInterest · 04/11/2025 17:35

Choosing it daily sounds exhausting. Surely for most monogamous couples it's just not something they think about most of the time? For me it's never on my mind so I don't need to choose it. It's effortless because I never think about it. I've got marriage/sex/relationship ticked off in my mind. My daily choices are around what to eat, what to read, what to book for the weekend, other men haven't crossed my mind in about 20 years.