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To have organised a 40th birthday party for me and my twin?

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loonyloo · 25/08/2025 20:31

I've just had an argument with my lifelong friend about this.

I have a twin brother. We turned 40 a couple of weeks ago. I wanted a big party as it's a big milestone. I don't think that's unusual. I told my brother a few months ago that I wanted the party. He said that he didn't want a big fuss and wouldn't come.

I went ahead and organised one. His wife knew and said he'd come. The party came and he didn't show up. I'd assumed he would despite what he'd said. I was really embarrassed in front of all our extended family and friends and upset that he'd let me down. I really thought he'd come. He'd said he hadn't wanted a 21st either but I did, so my mum organised a big party for us. He was a bit grumpy about it, but he did come and enjoyed himself in the end.

I'd told my friend how upset I was about it but she didn't say very much. She can be like that though, she's a bit unfeeling. I saw her on Friday and we ended up having a disagreement about something else that escalated and the subject of the party came up. She said that I was in the wrong for throwing a party for me and my brother. She said if I wanted a party I should've thrown one for myself and not told everyone it was for both of us. She said it was an example of me "always, always having to have things your own fucking way" and that I was selfish.

I'm really upset. I don't think it's selfish of me to want to have a party and I don't see why I shouldn't have one just because my brother doesn't want one. I can't have one just for myself, everyone knows we're twins and it would look weird for me to have a birthday party without him. My friend was really rude today and needs to watch her temper. I'm a really kind person and I think it's not too much to ask for others to put themselves out for me sometimes, but I've been thinking about what my friend said and now I'm worried other people think I was selfish about the party.

OP posts:
SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 25/08/2025 22:36

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:18

I think you're all being a bit harsh on me. I didn't expect everyone to agree but hardly anyone is seeing this from my point of view. I wanted my brother to have a nice birthday. He can be a bit unsociable at times so needs to be encouraged to come to events and stuff but he always enjoys himself once he's there. I thought it'd be like his 21st where he ended up enjoying it.

Even if I did the wrong thing I don't think I was selfish and I think my friend was really horrible about it.

The problem isn’t that you wanted him to have a nice birthday, @loonyloo - it’s the fact that you completely ignored him when he told you what he wanted for his birthday - ie no party! It isn’t kind or loving to try to force someone into a social occasion they don’t want.

Basically you decided he was wrong about how he wanted to celebrate his 40th, so organised the joint party he didn’t want, and then got miffed when he didn’t come to the party he didn’t want.

It may come as news to you, but different people like different things. You wanted a party, he didn’t. Neither of you were wrong, but only one of you decided to try to impose your way on the other person.

Lostworlds · 25/08/2025 22:36

I understand you wanted to have a party and why not, go and enjoy your birthday! However, your twin didn’t want a party so you should have left him out if it.

In hindsight, you could have checked in with him again before finalising a guest list and double check who he wanted to invite/ see if he would turn up and then let people know about the party. I know you wanted to do something kind but you don’t need your twin there to have a party, next time enjoy yourself and invite him as a guest! Some people don’t want to be the centre of attention, even if it is a special birthday and that’s alright

BettysRoasties · 25/08/2025 22:35

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

Edited

So two friends both think you make things all about you.

Maybe just maybe. Reflect.

Arlanymor · 25/08/2025 22:35

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

Edited

So two friends have felt the need to point out that you're self-centred? And that doesn't ring any bells with you? You just think that they are both hurtful and mean? You've not done anything to deserve either of their approbation in your mind? Really?

SuperTrooper1111 · 25/08/2025 22:35

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:33

Thank you!

If you think that one person agreeing with you vindicates your decision to ride roughshod over your twin's wishes then all you're doing is proving that your friend is right about you!

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

Ddakji · 25/08/2025 21:51

Is this the same friend, OP? You were told you were unreasonable then and that was 3 years ago.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4569390-to-be-devastated-by-my-friends-attitude

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

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Londonismyjam · 25/08/2025 22:34

But you’re not responding to us are you OP - where is your self awareness? With kindness and respect, are you neurodiverse?

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:33

Silverbirchleaf · 25/08/2025 21:49

I don’t think you were being selfish, and you meant well. It was a milestone birthday, and so you wanted to share it with your brother. I think it’s slightly rude of them not to let you know they weren’t coming, especially after they (wife) accepted the invitation.

Thank you!

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loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:32

Hobnobswantshernameback · 25/08/2025 21:44

Yet another goady one post and run OP

Wtf? I'd only posted just over an hour before you wrote that. I was busy with something else for a bit. It's not like I left it for days

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AlexisP90 · 25/08/2025 22:31

charlieandthechocolatfactory · 25/08/2025 20:34

But it is his birthday too, and he said he didn’t want a fuss
so kindly, I’m not sure how he let you down when it’s also his birthday

Yeah this.

I fucking hate surprise parties or being the centre of attention. If I had a twin and they did this I wouldn't come either.

Totally get you wanted to have a party but you should have respected your brothers wishes and just thrown it for yourself.

Sunshineismyfavourite · 25/08/2025 22:31

I can totally see that you wanted to give your brother a lovely birthday. But your idea of a lovely birthday is completely different to his. I think it's really sad that you can't see that?
I think your planning the party was well meant OP but very much misguided. You are being unreasonable I'm afraid.

HeddaGarbled · 25/08/2025 22:31

he didn't bother to show up

That’s not what happened.

He made an active decision not to attend, just as he told you he would.

I would imagine he was very very bothered.

BettysRoasties · 25/08/2025 22:30

Londonismyjam · 25/08/2025 22:29

The OP isn’t listening. And going by her posts I don’t think she ever will.

We can all set alarms for their 50th 60th to read the thread identical again I reckon.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 25/08/2025 22:29

VoltaireMittyDream · 25/08/2025 21:09

This must be a reverse. Nobody can be this obtuse.

Yup. Either that or someone messing about.

Londonismyjam · 25/08/2025 22:29

The OP isn’t listening. And going by her posts I don’t think she ever will.

SuperTrooper1111 · 25/08/2025 22:28

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:20

Actually I invited quite a lot of his friends too. That's why I was so embarrassed, they were there for him, not me and he didn't bother to show up. I went to a lot of effort for the party

Your poor brother will be feeling far more mortified than you. You have shamed him in front of his friends by making it look like he was the crap twin for not turning up to the party. Did you explain to them that he'd said all along he wouldn't go? I would be so angry with you if I were him.

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 22:28

So it was my DH 40th a few weeks ago. He told me he didn’t want a party and not to arrange one. What did I do?….. didn’t arrange a party even through I could have. It was that simple! Hope you had fun though and were the centre of attention without your twin!

BettysRoasties · 25/08/2025 22:28

Angelica from the rugrats if she had a twin.

Coconutter24 · 25/08/2025 22:27

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:20

Actually I invited quite a lot of his friends too. That's why I was so embarrassed, they were there for him, not me and he didn't bother to show up. I went to a lot of effort for the party

The party he didn’t want!! You should be embarrassed about your behaviour

NoThanksNeeded · 25/08/2025 22:27

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:18

I think you're all being a bit harsh on me. I didn't expect everyone to agree but hardly anyone is seeing this from my point of view. I wanted my brother to have a nice birthday. He can be a bit unsociable at times so needs to be encouraged to come to events and stuff but he always enjoys himself once he's there. I thought it'd be like his 21st where he ended up enjoying it.

Even if I did the wrong thing I don't think I was selfish and I think my friend was really horrible about it.

Nobody is seeing it from your POV because your POV is wrong and childish

Your brother is 40. He can make his own mind up regarding socialising. You don't need to "encourage him" to do anything he doesn't want

Your friend wasn't horrible and you are selfish

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:27

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 25/08/2025 21:33

The way this is written sounds like a reverse or AI or something.

@loonyloo what do you think?

It's not a reverse. And I don't know why you'd say it's AI but lots of people seem to throw that around these days. I just tried to be as to-the-point as possible because sometimes I can be long-winded

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AmoozzBoosh · 25/08/2025 22:26

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:20

Actually I invited quite a lot of his friends too. That's why I was so embarrassed, they were there for him, not me and he didn't bother to show up. I went to a lot of effort for the party

That embarrassment is on you, not him.
I'm sorry op but this really should be a wake up call for you.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 25/08/2025 22:26

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:20

Actually I invited quite a lot of his friends too. That's why I was so embarrassed, they were there for him, not me and he didn't bother to show up. I went to a lot of effort for the party

But he told you he didn't want one and that he wouldn't come but you went ahead and did it anyway.
This is on you going against his wishes.
You should have just organised a party for yourself.

Coconutter24 · 25/08/2025 22:26

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:18

I think you're all being a bit harsh on me. I didn't expect everyone to agree but hardly anyone is seeing this from my point of view. I wanted my brother to have a nice birthday. He can be a bit unsociable at times so needs to be encouraged to come to events and stuff but he always enjoys himself once he's there. I thought it'd be like his 21st where he ended up enjoying it.

Even if I did the wrong thing I don't think I was selfish and I think my friend was really horrible about it.

You were selfish. If you wanted him to have a nice birthday then you’d of respected the fact he said he didn’t want a party. You wanted a party but didn’t want to throw one for just you, he said he didn’t want it and wouldn’t come you selfishly ignored that because you thought your wants trump his. Your friend wasn’t wrong and you did do the wrong thing. You should of thrown a party just for you

Arlanymor · 25/08/2025 22:25

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:20

Actually I invited quite a lot of his friends too. That's why I was so embarrassed, they were there for him, not me and he didn't bother to show up. I went to a lot of effort for the party

OH.MY.GOD.

He didn't bother to show up = HE TOLD YOU HE WASN'T COMING.

I invited quite a lot of his friends too = HE TOLD YOU HE WASN'T COMING.

I went to a lot of effort for the party = THAT HE SAID HE WOULDN'T COME TO.

I am honestly a bit flabbergasted at your lack of insight into your own behaviour. I kind of get now why your friend had to be so brutal. You are completely obtuse.