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Is Stephen Fry a repulsive, condescending misogynistic turd?

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Absentmindedsmile · 12/07/2025 14:06

I realised on the first thread about lovely Stephen Fry, that I should have put an AIBU. I’m interested to know the wider view, beyond us sex realists on the FWR board.

So if you’ve got time, take a flick through the last thread (link attached), and using that plus your existing knowledge of the man, what do you think?

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YABU - No he’s lovely.

YANBU - Yes, he is at the very least, a misogynistic wanker.

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Allinarow48 · 13/07/2025 07:09

Absentmindedsmile · 12/07/2025 14:06

I realised on the first thread about lovely Stephen Fry, that I should have put an AIBU. I’m interested to know the wider view, beyond us sex realists on the FWR board.

So if you’ve got time, take a flick through the last thread (link attached), and using that plus your existing knowledge of the man, what do you think?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5357749-stephen-fry-what-a-repulsive-condescending-misogynistic-turd?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

YABU - No he’s lovely.

YANBU - Yes, he is at the very least, a misogynistic wanker.

He's also a vocal and unrepentant advocate of pederasty. Total knob.

BeanQuisine · 13/07/2025 07:08

I don't follow much Brit telly or media these days but he used to be omnipresent in an increasingly annoying way.

Always came across as earnestly or ingratiatingly fake, a "naice liberal" el posho who doesn't even seem convincingly posh. It's the "posh" of the jobbing conman and credit card thief.

Promoting himself as the voice of reason, yet always "not quite hiding" the warm inner glow for pederasty (he's a good chum of Jonathan King, amongst others) because he thinks "letting it slip" gives him street cred amongst "edgy, classical" types.

CalicoPusscat · 13/07/2025 07:02

I didn't realise he'd said all this 😬

mustytrusty · 13/07/2025 07:01

There's always been something a bit unpleasant about him but the age of his husband was the thing that really made me think 'absolutely not one of the good guys'.

myplace · 13/07/2025 06:58

Re his husband, it’s not just the age gap, it’s the husband’s personal style to emphasise his youth- it’s akin to Emma Bunton when she was Baby Spice.

myplace · 13/07/2025 06:53

@JustSawJohnny ’past his sell by date’ isn’t ageism, it’s a comment about relevance. Someone can be past their sell by date but still young, just that their skill set/talent/success mattered in the 90s and it’s now 2025. It’s like someone who’s a ‘has been’.

Age is a side effect, not the focus of the saying. David Attenborough isn’t ’past his sell by date’ for example, despite being elderly.

ETA this is probably for @DBSFstupid Looks like I tagged the wrong person, sorry.

savagedaughter · 13/07/2025 06:49

DBSFstupid · 13/07/2025 04:14

@ruffler45 Tell me what in your opinion is the "sell by date"? Stephen Fry is 67.
So older peoples thoughts and opinions don't matter anymore? Should they all be put out to Pasture then?

More ageist crap on MN.

Yes, it's not his age that bothers me, it's the minimising of child rape that I find problematic.

Usernamenope · 13/07/2025 06:48

I've always been vaguely irritated by him as someone smug and arrogant. He has a reputation for being very clever but he seems like someone who is just privately educated and knows enough other well connected people to make a career of it. I've read some of his fiction books and they are dire.

It was only a few years ago when someone mentioned his appalling comments about sexual abuse victims that I thought hang on, there's something really wrong with anyone who is minimising that. Can't believe he is still popular with horrendous views like that.

savagedaughter · 13/07/2025 06:46

MuckFusk · 13/07/2025 03:46

I disliked him before I knew he trivialized child rape. Now I despise him.

I wish I could say I saw him for what he is, but sadly I bought into the bullshit. I hope Hugh Laurie has distanced himself from him.

Figcherry · 13/07/2025 06:35

He’s such a knob.

I was going to write something more considered.

But no, he’s just a knob and a smart Alec.

FlatErica · 13/07/2025 06:18

Thank you for asking! Yes he is. YANBU.

MrsEverest · 13/07/2025 06:12

Stephen Fry has always failed to identify or give credence to oppression that doesn’t affect him. He’s always found it easier to see homophobia than racism or sexism.

I think that’s true of most people - we all see what affects us just a little
more sharply.

Optimustime · 13/07/2025 05:48

He's traded a lot on being seen as intelligent with a very large general knowledge. No. He's learnt to speak with a posh accent, he was privileged enough to go to private school to get into the right circles and he reads knowledge off of cards prepared by researchers.

Annoyedone · 13/07/2025 05:40

HangryLikeTheHulk · 12/07/2025 23:40

Wait what has Fry done now ? Has he demonised and witch hunted a minority or something ?

Oh what ? You’re angry because he hasn’t ?

Nah. I think it’s more his support of child rape and minimising the trauma of CSA victims that’s upsetting people.

2021x · 13/07/2025 05:35

I think his spine has the same structure of wet spaghetti.

The problem he has is that at least some of his "national treasure" status and some of his income is that he take opportunity to be publically supportive of social injustces... BUT cannot understand that sexual contact of minors by adults will always be abusive due to the power difference. This possibly indicates emotional immaturity, which he was able to use his intellect to hide in his 20-30s, but is going to be at odds with his "grandfather" like appearance.

What repells me is that he seems to see the idea of sexual contact with children as "challenging" and "subversive" i.e. its society that has a problem with it. There is every possibility that he experienced sexual abuse as an adolesecnt and maybe he had some enjoyment out of it (I know Billy Conolly spoke about this conflict) but he is at risk as he gets older and less restricted in speech, of absolutely lampooning his legacy (and those who are closely associated with his- Hugh Laurie, Emma Thompson etc...)

I don't really care that he has mysoginistic views. You can't stop someone from being racist or mysoginistic only that ensure that those views cannot discriminate against people. I find a reasonable proportion of gay men are pretty openly mysoginistic so it wouldn't suprise me if he was too.

MuckFusk · 13/07/2025 05:18

BlueEyedBogWitch · 13/07/2025 05:04

He’s a creepy, morally-suspect, patronising bellend. Unbearable. Pushes every one of my rage buttons every time he looms into view. DH watches re-runs of QI and I’ve learned to leave the room before the sound of his foghorn voice instantly lowers my mood. I wish he would just shut the fuck up and fuck off, forever.

That was an eloquent and enjoyable summary.

PrestonHood121 · 13/07/2025 05:13

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/07/2025 19:03

Said no to multiple men.

Oh and donated some of her personal fortune to three women so they could get access to justice in their fight against the taxpayer funded Scottish government.

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And funded MS research and treatment centres throughout the UK.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 13/07/2025 05:04

He’s a creepy, morally-suspect, patronising bellend. Unbearable. Pushes every one of my rage buttons every time he looms into view. DH watches re-runs of QI and I’ve learned to leave the room before the sound of his foghorn voice instantly lowers my mood. I wish he would just shut the fuck up and fuck off, forever.

CurlewKate · 13/07/2025 05:01

On the contrary. The expression is usually used by well off/rich people who have no compassion or good instincts in an attempt to silence their financial equals who do. People like Nigel Farage use it about people like Martin Lewis, for example.

DBSFstupid · 13/07/2025 04:27

CurlewKate · 12/07/2025 19:45

Yes-champagne socialist is an insult. Used by people who are too thick to realise that you do not have to be poor to have good principles and instincts and understand what’s going on in the world.

😂😂😂

DBSFstupid · 13/07/2025 04:20

steff13 · 12/07/2025 17:27

My understanding of the phrase is that it means someone well off who espouses beliefs about improving the lives of others but doesn't actually do anything to help others.

I would add that they are generally self satisfied pricks with no backbone and as long as their nests are feathered they can spout their condescending claptrap to those 'less fortunate' ... Islington anyone?

DBSFstupid · 13/07/2025 04:14

ruffler45 · 12/07/2025 16:04

well past his sell by date, who actually cares what he says anymore

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@ruffler45 Tell me what in your opinion is the "sell by date"? Stephen Fry is 67.
So older peoples thoughts and opinions don't matter anymore? Should they all be put out to Pasture then?

More ageist crap on MN.

MuckFusk · 13/07/2025 03:46

savagedaughter · 13/07/2025 01:05

There are plenty of areas I can agree to disagree on. But if you think minimising and attempting to normalise child rape (as he did in his play and in his comments) and calling raped children child prostitutes is acceptable in the tiniest measure, you are outing yourself.

The only acceptable human response to raped children is absolute horror, shock and to want anyone who rapes children to be - at absolute minimum - locked up until they stop breathing in and out.

Normal people never discuss child rape in any other terms. If you are scrambling to support Fry - now that you know how he feels about child rape - there's something really wrong with you.

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I disliked him before I knew he trivialized child rape. Now I despise him.

savagedaughter · 13/07/2025 01:11

Oh my God he supports Peter Tatchell! JFC. Hard drive check, immediately.

I already knew a bit about his weird comments, but the piece shared "There's Something Strange about Stephen Fry" is stomach turning.

savagedaughter · 13/07/2025 01:05

savagedaughter · 12/07/2025 14:39

Rik Mayall once walked away from him in disgust as Fry insisted on trying to have a conversation about the paedophilic rape of children. Screenshot from the book Fat Chance (1995) below.

In 2015 he was quoted as saying - of the child rape gangs in Rotherham and Manchester "Yes we had "child prostitution" in the Victorian times, and now we have it in Rotherham and Manchester."

He said of child rape victims "It’s a great shame and we’re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place – you get some of my sympathy – but your self pity gets none of my sympathy,” he continued. “Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one’s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself. The irony is we’ll feel sorry for you, if you stop feeling sorry for yourself."

https: // www.itv dot com/goodmorningbritain/articles/stephen-fry-comments-about-sex-abuse-victims

As an undergraduate he wrote a play "Latin! or Tobacco and Boys," which depicts a "relationship" between a schoolmaster and a 13-year-old boy.

At this point, anybody who is defending Stephen Fry is a walking red flag.

Not sure if the screenshot will be approved. You can find it here: https: // x dot com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1936048737098350780

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There are plenty of areas I can agree to disagree on. But if you think minimising and attempting to normalise child rape (as he did in his play and in his comments) and calling raped children child prostitutes is acceptable in the tiniest measure, you are outing yourself.

The only acceptable human response to raped children is absolute horror, shock and to want anyone who rapes children to be - at absolute minimum - locked up until they stop breathing in and out.

Normal people never discuss child rape in any other terms. If you are scrambling to support Fry - now that you know how he feels about child rape - there's something really wrong with you.