Parents hate the Childfree

Alas I have indeed been at restaurants and experienced children being allowed to run off and go bother strangers at other tables. Last week we were at a restaurant and a child came over and tried to grab a bread roll! I've also been on airplanes where kids are running around with no one supervising them - one tried to grab my iPad once. So this poster is no talking out of turn.

If parents can't control their children and keep them seated at a restaurant then they shouldn't be taking the kiddos to restaurants etc until/unless they can indeed make certain the child can sit quietly and eat their food without bothering others - unless of course it's a restaurant specifically aimed at parents with young children. But even then - it's a safety issue: running around while eating is a choke hazard.

As for the airplane: again, if you can't control your child enough to make sure they stay seated and leave other people alone on the plane, then don't go on an airplane. I have no issue whatsoever with babies crying etc - they can't help it if they are feeling grotty/have painful ears/are out of routine (and noise cancelling headphones are awesome!) but no child should be physically interfering in any way with another person's journey. A parent who can't control a their child in that environment shouldn't be travelling with their kids until they can. And it's perfectly doable: last plane I flew on (a 12 hour journey to the US) there was a lady travelling alone with three children - all were under the age of 8 - one was a baby. All behaved impeccably - they were a total delight - their mum was calm, cool, and clearly well prepared. And was clear with her expectations of her children for how they should behave. And the baby - oh my gosh - a little sweetie - there was a couple of older folks a couple rows down who were clearly grandparents - the gentleman kindly offered to hold the baby while the mum was sorting out the other two with their toys etc - and he was absolutely charming!

My kids are grown up now, but when they were little I can honestly say I was pretty much oblivious to the child free. They were neither here nor there to me.

It says the link is broken
all I could see is the thread from 4 years rather than the actual article

do you know the name of the pub? I would bet they have changed that policy 4 years on

I think there’s a difference between ‘hating childfree people’ and ‘giving short shrift to childfree people choosing to post on a site called Mumsnet’, no? I have absolutely no antagonism towards childfree people in the world in general.

It says the link is broken
all I could see is the thread from 4 years rather than the actual article

do you know the name of the pub? I would bet they have changed that policy 4 years on

This really does not happen

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4276496-New-Forest-pub-bans-under-12-year-olds

It seems from this thread that no one is going to convince the child free people on this thread that they aren’t hated and the truth, which is no one is actually thinking twice about them, will never quite sink in. In today’s society everyone wants to make themselves a victim about something and bleating on about people hating those without children (the biggest load of bollocks I’ve ever heard!) is just the latest thing for people to feel sorry for themselves about.

Most of my friends are childfree and it’s fantastic.

@Roxietrees What are you on about?! Never in my life have I had a child come to my table in a restaurant trying to grab things and the parents don’t immediately come and apologise & take the child away. This really does not happen. You are making these things up in order to feel superior over today’s “entitled parents”

Yes it does, and no I’m not. Just because you have not had experience of things doesn’t mean they don’t happen, so that’s an odd way you view the world.

What are you on about?! Never in my life have I had a child come to my table in a restaurant trying to grab things and the parents don’t immediately come and apologise & take the child away. This really does not happen. You are making these things up in order to feel superior over today’s “entitled parents”. It’s not entitlement to want to take your child on a nice holiday - it’s a wonderful experience for children - who exist in the world and have just as much right to take up space and breathe air as you do. Babies and toddlers have been on planes since the beginning of planes. This is not a new thing! The fact you refused to take them on a plane even to meet relatives just because you were worried about upsetting other people is extreme. Of course it’s important to teach children manners, to be considerate of other people, and that they are not better than anyone else. But it sounds like you’ve taught them that other people’s comfort is more important than their right to meet their family and to travel. That’s a one-way ticket to low self-esteem/being a doormat IMO.

Yeah it was nice on there about 10 years ago but as it’s grown it’s become a total echo chamber of hateful views. Definitely don’t bother looking.

Sounds terrifying!

give it a wide berth

The language and terminology they use about parents and children is disgusting.

Inconsiderate people are very likely going to be inconsiderate in their parenting. Alongside their driving, their behaviour in restaurants, on holiday etc etc

it is not BECAUSE they are parents they are inconsiderate. They are Inconsiderate. Full stop.

In what way? Like hating parents? Hating children? Sounds bloody awful

As in life, some people are dicks. Some are not. Simple as that.

you would think everyone would get this

but nope…. As this thread demonstrates. Such hyperbole and sweeping nonsense

Im childless not child free I suppose could say child free as I’ve made peace with the causes. I find it the opposite. Some of the child free communities are utterly appalling. The Reddit child free sub is disgusting. Years ago it was a nice community but as it’s grown it’s become an awful area full of hate.

@Roxietrees What are you on about?! Never in my life have I had a child come to my table in a restaurant trying to grab things and the parents don’t immediately come and apologise & take the child away. This really does not happen. You are making these things up in order to feel superior over today’s “entitled parents”

Yes it does, and no I’m not. Just because you have not had experience of things doesn’t mean they don’t happen, so that’s an odd way you view the world.