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Kids won't come to mums funeral, family blames me

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LounSue · 01/02/2025 12:42

Context, my wonder 88 year old mum passed away recently, we are all beyond devastated. Her funeral in on Monday. Today we met up with the extended family for a breakfast, the intention was my sister would host my siblings and I, plus all the kids and my mums brothers for a simple breakfast, discuss the plans for Monday and make sure everyone was on the same page.

Both my children (29 and 25) came, my son and his GF had to get an early train to be there. Everything was fine until my sister came over and asked why my son had just told her son he wasn't coming to the funeral, I was under the impression he was. He was very close to my mum, called her several times a week, visited often and took her to all sorts of things. I asked him and he said he didn't want to as funerals are a bunch of performative crap and half the people in the room couldn't be bothered with her when she was alive. My daughter then nodded and agreed and said she wouldn't be there either.
My sister lost it with them and raised her voice saying they were being selfish, as my mum had carefully planned every detail of her funeral and often spoke of how all the family would be together and it would likely be the last time (my dad passed in 2019, and some of my siblings aren't very close to others).
Both of my children walked out, DD's boyfriend came back in about 10 minutes later and got all of their coats/bags and said they were driving DS and his girlfriend back to London.
I tried to call both of my DC as did DH (not their dad) but no answers. Now my sister is saying it is my awful parenting that has caused this and my children are selfish.
This is made worse by my mother having left slightly more money to my DS than all the other grandkids (20k to most of them, 25k to DS and a further 7.5k to his girlfriend (they have been together for 4 years and she was very close to my mum). My sister seems to think he manipulated her into doing this, I don't think he did.
Then my DD posted on instagram or something a video of her and DS, his girlfriend and her boyfriend listening to very loud upbeat music in the car and my niece showed her mum and my sister is now saying it's so disrespectful they are doing that.

I think it's up to DC if they come to the funeral, even if my mum would have wanted them there. However I'm not sure why they came today if they aren't coming to the funeral.

How do I handle this? My sister is grieving as are we all so I'm trying to not get worked up at her reaction but I do think its made things worse.

AIBU to think DC are fine to do what they want and my sister has massively blown this out of proportion?

OP posts:
Janiie · 01/02/2025 15:13

Your sister sounds awful. So sorry op this must be very hard to deal with.
I'd encourage them to rethink and attend or they may regret it. If they want to speak just tell the person running the service, it is not up to your controlling sibling .

Toddlerteaplease · 01/02/2025 15:12

Your kids were incredibly rude and insensitive. They might not agree with a funeral. But it's not about them.

goingforeverythingbutpolarisation · 01/02/2025 15:12

Arrrrghhh - please can people read OP's all posts before jumping in.

Keyboard warriors - ffs

InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 15:11

limeshakers · 01/02/2025 15:10

Awful behaviour from your DC would suspect it is mainly age related and trying to be 'edgy' think they will look back on this and be mortified. I wouldn't feel like you need to support or excuse them in this. it is quite a juvenile attitude for one thing it is not all about them and going to your sister's brunch and saying they wouldn't be attending her mums funeral and storming out is terrible. Also people do lose contact when older but pay respects to people they had close connections with at one point that is not 'fake' or 'performative'

Except this one does seem to be very performative, given OP’s further posts.

They aren’t the ones being juvenile.

goingforeverythingbutpolarisation · 01/02/2025 15:11

limeshakers · 01/02/2025 15:10

Awful behaviour from your DC would suspect it is mainly age related and trying to be 'edgy' think they will look back on this and be mortified. I wouldn't feel like you need to support or excuse them in this. it is quite a juvenile attitude for one thing it is not all about them and going to your sister's brunch and saying they wouldn't be attending her mums funeral and storming out is terrible. Also people do lose contact when older but pay respects to people they had close connections with at one point that is not 'fake' or 'performative'

Didn't read the whole thread I'm assuming?

I'm not sure if everyone on MN knows about the ability to read all the Op's comments.

MissUltraViolet · 01/02/2025 15:10

After the update - I completely understand why they don’t want to attend.

Your children are not selfish, your sister is vile.

OwlInTheOak · 01/02/2025 15:10

I would have sympathy if they'd said they don't want to be emotional infront of people, or that they find funerals uncomfortable. But the way they've worded it isn't socially acceptable.
Speak with them, find out the actual reasons, and explain that they need to talk to your sister unless they don't care about having any form of relationship with her.

goingforeverythingbutpolarisation · 01/02/2025 15:10

noctilucentcloud · 01/02/2025 15:09

I'm a good 20 years older than the OPs children and have been to a fair few funerals. I've never seen an open invitation to speak, it's always been pre-arranged and limited. If I wasn't asked or someone said no, it'd not occur to me that I could bypass it, or to do so.

Not sure if you missed the part where the eldest brother had asked OP's son to do a speech?

limeshakers · 01/02/2025 15:10

Awful behaviour from your DC would suspect it is mainly age related and trying to be 'edgy' think they will look back on this and be mortified. I wouldn't feel like you need to support or excuse them in this. it is quite a juvenile attitude for one thing it is not all about them and going to your sister's brunch and saying they wouldn't be attending her mums funeral and storming out is terrible. Also people do lose contact when older but pay respects to people they had close connections with at one point that is not 'fake' or 'performative'

Oioisavaloy27 · 01/02/2025 15:10

goingforeverythingbutpolarisation · 01/02/2025 15:08

Did you read all OP's comments and updates? Don't think you probably did...

She's being sarcastic

mnahmnah · 01/02/2025 15:10

Ah. That update changes it all. Your sister has completely turned the funeral into something it shouldn’t be. The rest of the family sound awful. Not sure I could sit through such a fake and disrespectful show that they will put on. If I were you, I would avoid it as well and do some kind of memorial with your DC separately.

noctilucentcloud · 01/02/2025 15:09

Yalta · 01/02/2025 15:02

So why didn’t your son and daughter say no they will be speaking and bypass their aunt and arrange it themselves

At funerals I have been to there isn’t a limit or pre arranged number of people who speak. There are people who have arranged to speak at the funeral but others who get up and say their piece. The vicar usually asks if anyone would like to say something.

Edited

I'm a good 20 years older than the OPs children and have been to a fair few funerals. I've never seen an open invitation to speak, it's always been pre-arranged and limited. If I wasn't asked or someone said no, it'd not occur to me that I could bypass it, or to do so.

goingforeverythingbutpolarisation · 01/02/2025 15:08

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 01/02/2025 15:08

Yes those selfish brats who were there for her mother more than most of the woman's own children were...

Selfish, selfish brats

Did you read all OP's comments and updates? Don't think you probably did...

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 01/02/2025 15:08

BigSilly · 01/02/2025 14:55

What disrespectful, selfish brats you have raised!

Yes those selfish brats who were there for her mother more than most of the woman's own children were...

Selfish, selfish brats

goingforeverythingbutpolarisation · 01/02/2025 15:07

Why oh why don't those making comments on here read the OP's full thread first - it's so easy to do (just click 'see all' at the top)!

With the update of your sister basically preventing your DS from giving an eulogy he had already written (as suggested by your elder brother) I completely understand their position. Why did not your elder brother step in too, though? And shame your DS didn't say this at the outset.

If not for the above context, I have to say I'd be shocked.

I consider things you just have to go to things like funerals, weddings and special birthdays (if invited).

Floppyelf · 01/02/2025 15:06

LounSue · 01/02/2025 14:35

I've spoken to DS.

His account, is he was going to come and he and DD had wrote a speech together, my brother (the eldest) had told them to do so. When they arrived today he showed my sister to check they weren't repeating anything anyone else was saying and she said it wasn't necessary they weren't speaking. She then said "You got what you wanted anyway didn't you", he asked what she meant and she said "money and your little girlfriend got some too, watch out you'll be next she rinses for money, her kind are good at that (Eastern European)" he then said it was rich as she and her children only every called their gran for money and the last time he spoke to his gran about it her son owed my mum £3500 and her daughter owed her £6000. My sister then said it wasn't the time for that convo and he said fine and then said actually I won't be at the funeral as I don't appreciate the way you talk to my girlfriend (apparently his girlfriend said something to my sister when they arrived, asking where to put their coats and my sister said "sorry I don't speak Russian" she speaks perfectly clear English) and you are making this funeral all about the people who didn't care about my gran.

That is when my sister came over and told me.

My sister claims none of this happened and he is lying to make himself look better and has her children and my niece backing her up saying it never happened.

I cannot deal with this stress right now!

After that post I’d be tempted to push the sister to the grave as well. What an evil piece of….

Mamabear300 · 01/02/2025 15:04

Ok so they didn't handle this with much tact but after reading the only funeral they had been to was their dads, I'm wondering if this combined with the grief of loosing their beloved grandmother has triggered some sort of resurfaced traumas from loosing their dad? I Lost my dad suddenly nearly 2 years ago now in a pretty horrific way and there is no way on earth that I'll just 'get over it' but I am learning to live with it so I can't imagine how your kids felt loosing their dad as teens. I also agree tensions will be high with other family members due to grief, its a really difficult time. I'm sorry for your loss. Mabye try have a chat with your kids see if they open up on the matter. Good luck x

Yalta · 01/02/2025 15:04

Also why does your sister think she can monopolise the speeches

Floppyelf · 01/02/2025 15:04

LounSue · 01/02/2025 13:14

I don't know if my sister said anything to him to provoke him, it wouldn't surprise me if she had (she thinks my children act above themselves as they are the highest earners in the family, first to go to uni etc.), she also has issues with his girlfriend, she isn't British and she has made xenophobic comments about her in the past. However I do think my sister would have been polite today, so I really don't know.

Your sister sounds like a basic frumpy witch. Your children are right. All those clowns doing perfomative shit after harassing your mother in her last few years are the selfish, evil twats.
who’s in charge of your mums will? is there a more upto date version?

Your children are correct having read all your posts up to this point.

Oioisavaloy27 · 01/02/2025 15:03

At the end of the day they are adults and can make their own decision whether to go or not and what they say is true, funerals are for the living not the dead, people can remember loved ones in their own way. However to put videos up it a bit crappy and insensitive.

Tittibits · 01/02/2025 15:02

Your sister sounds vile. Otherwise why did she organise the funeral with the only people speaking were her children who rarely visited. She’s angry that your son got more money!

I suspect they are reacting to the fact they have been sidelined! Did you talk to your son about doing a eulogy also?

Yalta · 01/02/2025 15:02

LounSue · 01/02/2025 14:35

I've spoken to DS.

His account, is he was going to come and he and DD had wrote a speech together, my brother (the eldest) had told them to do so. When they arrived today he showed my sister to check they weren't repeating anything anyone else was saying and she said it wasn't necessary they weren't speaking. She then said "You got what you wanted anyway didn't you", he asked what she meant and she said "money and your little girlfriend got some too, watch out you'll be next she rinses for money, her kind are good at that (Eastern European)" he then said it was rich as she and her children only every called their gran for money and the last time he spoke to his gran about it her son owed my mum £3500 and her daughter owed her £6000. My sister then said it wasn't the time for that convo and he said fine and then said actually I won't be at the funeral as I don't appreciate the way you talk to my girlfriend (apparently his girlfriend said something to my sister when they arrived, asking where to put their coats and my sister said "sorry I don't speak Russian" she speaks perfectly clear English) and you are making this funeral all about the people who didn't care about my gran.

That is when my sister came over and told me.

My sister claims none of this happened and he is lying to make himself look better and has her children and my niece backing her up saying it never happened.

I cannot deal with this stress right now!

So why didn’t your son and daughter say no they will be speaking and bypass their aunt and arrange it themselves

At funerals I have been to there isn’t a limit or pre arranged number of people who speak. There are people who have arranged to speak at the funeral but others who get up and say their piece. The vicar usually asks if anyone would like to say something.

Maxorias · 01/02/2025 15:01

BigSilly · 01/02/2025 14:55

What disrespectful, selfish brats you have raised!

So they should let OP's sister be insulting to their partners and prevent them from speaking at their grandma's funeral ? The aunt gets to dictate what everyone else does but the people who were actually close to the old lady should roll over ?

ohnocarlben · 01/02/2025 15:00

I think everyone needs to take a step back and a deep breath.
I would ask them to come for you, and for themselves- funerals are a really good for closure and acceptance of death. it’s not the time for your DS to be grandstanding about his own ‘views’ on funerals.

PullTheBricksDown · 01/02/2025 15:00

Cynic17 · 01/02/2025 14:58

The OP - their mother - has explicitly stated that she doesn't need or want "support"!

And if in these circumstances my mum had said that to me, I'd be saying 'ok mum but I'll be there anyway just in case you do'

Rightly or wrongly, OP seems to have lowered her expectations of what her adult children can be expected to do.

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