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Kids won't come to mums funeral, family blames me

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LounSue · 01/02/2025 12:42

Context, my wonder 88 year old mum passed away recently, we are all beyond devastated. Her funeral in on Monday. Today we met up with the extended family for a breakfast, the intention was my sister would host my siblings and I, plus all the kids and my mums brothers for a simple breakfast, discuss the plans for Monday and make sure everyone was on the same page.

Both my children (29 and 25) came, my son and his GF had to get an early train to be there. Everything was fine until my sister came over and asked why my son had just told her son he wasn't coming to the funeral, I was under the impression he was. He was very close to my mum, called her several times a week, visited often and took her to all sorts of things. I asked him and he said he didn't want to as funerals are a bunch of performative crap and half the people in the room couldn't be bothered with her when she was alive. My daughter then nodded and agreed and said she wouldn't be there either.
My sister lost it with them and raised her voice saying they were being selfish, as my mum had carefully planned every detail of her funeral and often spoke of how all the family would be together and it would likely be the last time (my dad passed in 2019, and some of my siblings aren't very close to others).
Both of my children walked out, DD's boyfriend came back in about 10 minutes later and got all of their coats/bags and said they were driving DS and his girlfriend back to London.
I tried to call both of my DC as did DH (not their dad) but no answers. Now my sister is saying it is my awful parenting that has caused this and my children are selfish.
This is made worse by my mother having left slightly more money to my DS than all the other grandkids (20k to most of them, 25k to DS and a further 7.5k to his girlfriend (they have been together for 4 years and she was very close to my mum). My sister seems to think he manipulated her into doing this, I don't think he did.
Then my DD posted on instagram or something a video of her and DS, his girlfriend and her boyfriend listening to very loud upbeat music in the car and my niece showed her mum and my sister is now saying it's so disrespectful they are doing that.

I think it's up to DC if they come to the funeral, even if my mum would have wanted them there. However I'm not sure why they came today if they aren't coming to the funeral.

How do I handle this? My sister is grieving as are we all so I'm trying to not get worked up at her reaction but I do think its made things worse.

AIBU to think DC are fine to do what they want and my sister has massively blown this out of proportion?

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InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 17:51

peachesarenom · 01/02/2025 17:18

They went to the breakfast though so they clearly have some level of connection.

Sometimes you need others, sometimes they need you, such is life. You can't just do the things you value and need people for but then don't show up for the things they value.

If they don't want to know any of them at all then fine but choices have consequences. If, for example, they enjoy having their cousin in their life but then upset their cousins mother when she's grieving then good luck to them!

They went because they were led to believe they would be playing a part in the funeral, and that their aunts and cousins would treat them with a modicum of respect. When they were met with xenophobia and told that they wouldn’t be giving the speech they’d been asked to write, they left.

What do they need the aunt and cousins for? It doesn’t sound like they would expect the aunt and cousins to show up for them, or would think to ask them to. The consequences? You mean pissing off and alienating the people they don’t like and don’t care about it? Sounds like the desired outcome tbh, not a consequence to fear and thus avoid.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/02/2025 17:47

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:32

@TimPat yes I can explain it - Suck. It. Up. And. Attend. Your. Grandmother's. Funeral.

Is there something wrong with your keyboard?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/02/2025 17:43

MumonabikeE5 · 01/02/2025 15:50

Wow your adult kids aren’t coming to their grannies funeral?!?!?!

I think they should be told by their parents that the appropriate thing to do in this situation is to attend the funeral, given it is a way to show respect for the person who has died.

You show respect for a person when they're alive. When they're dead it matters not.

Perhaps it is a fundamental difference of opinion and if so, nobody is really in the wrong? OP's sister though shouldn't be giving the OP a hard time about anything.

MissUltraViolet · 01/02/2025 17:31

I didn’t go to a funeral that a lot of you would argue I should have. I didn’t for a few reasons but mainly because other family members had invited a family of people that did not like the person that had passed, she also hated them right back.

It was an absolute farce. I said goodbye in my own way and I know for an absolute fact she was right there with me, laughing at the joke her funeral was. She would have told me to stay away if she could.

OP, your children put in the effort to make sure she knew they loved her when she was alive. That is what is important.

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/02/2025 17:27

Cloacina · 01/02/2025 16:24

@RosesAndHellebores has nailed it.

Your mother's funeral was important to her. Your DC have disrespected that and in the process made it all about them. Awful behaviour. I would be handing them their arses on plates. I'd be mortified if I were the OP.

For those saying that they are adults so it is up to them what they do, part of being an adult is showing respect and decorum and sometimes doing things we don't want to do. Just get on with it without behaving like a dick.

Had they told DGM they weren't attending, you'd have a point. But I'm sure they didn't. DGM isn't here any more, died knowing that the son and his GF loved her.

It sounds like they were very close to her and care goes inwards and dumping goes outwards. They don't feel the funereal would be cathartic to them, as the closest people to DGM, so why should they go?

I suppose religious people maybe see things differently. But if you don't believe in life after death, DGM had a wonderful relationship with them in life, it makes no difference to her if they go to her funeral.

thescandalwascontained · 01/02/2025 17:20

LounSue · 01/02/2025 14:35

I've spoken to DS.

His account, is he was going to come and he and DD had wrote a speech together, my brother (the eldest) had told them to do so. When they arrived today he showed my sister to check they weren't repeating anything anyone else was saying and she said it wasn't necessary they weren't speaking. She then said "You got what you wanted anyway didn't you", he asked what she meant and she said "money and your little girlfriend got some too, watch out you'll be next she rinses for money, her kind are good at that (Eastern European)" he then said it was rich as she and her children only every called their gran for money and the last time he spoke to his gran about it her son owed my mum £3500 and her daughter owed her £6000. My sister then said it wasn't the time for that convo and he said fine and then said actually I won't be at the funeral as I don't appreciate the way you talk to my girlfriend (apparently his girlfriend said something to my sister when they arrived, asking where to put their coats and my sister said "sorry I don't speak Russian" she speaks perfectly clear English) and you are making this funeral all about the people who didn't care about my gran.

That is when my sister came over and told me.

My sister claims none of this happened and he is lying to make himself look better and has her children and my niece backing her up saying it never happened.

I cannot deal with this stress right now!

I believe your son

peachesarenom · 01/02/2025 17:18

InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 17:09

Are they people whose opinions they give the slightest shit about though?

Not everyone finds the same value in funerals, or considers them helpful or necessary when managing grief. The same applies to ’being together’ with people you can’t stand.

They went to the breakfast though so they clearly have some level of connection.

Sometimes you need others, sometimes they need you, such is life. You can't just do the things you value and need people for but then don't show up for the things they value.

If they don't want to know any of them at all then fine but choices have consequences. If, for example, they enjoy having their cousin in their life but then upset their cousins mother when she's grieving then good luck to them!

abricotine · 01/02/2025 17:17

OP I read your update. Not sure this thread will be useful to you now as a lot of people will just read and reply to the OP and how your children should support you etc. From the little detail shared, it all rings very true about your sister’s attitude and I would try to arrange a private goodbye and stick together with your children on this.
I also think this thread is immensely outing and if your sister gets wind of it it will cause huge issues for you… just saying.
good luck to you and your DC and I’m sorry for your loss

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 01/02/2025 17:17

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:35

@Likewhatever if you believe it. All these things happening and the OP didn't know? And the children not explaining it immediately to the OP? And anyone making assumptions they could speak at the funeral and flouncing off when told no by the person the OP agreed was to organise the funeral? Not EVERYONE can make a speech. It would go on hours.

Children don't always tell their parents what aunts/uncles have said to protect their parents...

They didn't make an assumption, they were asked by another sibling to write something. Aunt wasn't asked so much as took over.

There are funerals which go on ages. Some cultures especially have long services.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/02/2025 17:11

Floralnomad · 01/02/2025 16:20

If you believe that . Personally if somebody had racially abused my partner in the past I wouldn’t be going to breakfast at their home .

Sometimes, you suck things up to 'keep the peace', even when it goes against the grain.

My dad was Eastern European and I recall an older cousin's spouse making a snide remark about my dad's "funny foreign accent" while we were all at my parents' house. I was in my early 20s at the time. I actually walked out. (Mum and Dad didn't hear it.)

My cousin followed me and asked if I was all right. I didn't answer - I was so upset and angry - but just got in my car and drove off. There were no more snide remarks.

I later found out that one of the reasons that my mum didn't have a lot of time for one of her cousins stemmed back to a time when the cousin had been talking about how well her daughter was doing at primary school - she was top of the class for maths. Mum made the mistake of countering by telling her cousin that I was top of my class for maths and English.

The response was "Well, they do say that children of mixed blood do well at school!" (Yes, it was meant to be insulting.)

My second cousin and I were exactly the same age (same date of birth) and in the same class at secondary school. I recall that she had a bit of an attitude towards me then. When I found out what her mother had said, that explained everything.

We're both in our 60s now and we get on fine when we see one another. There's no point in raking over what happened between our mothers.

I quite understand the OP's son's anger. I'm hoping that there's still some way for him to speak at the funeral.

InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 17:09

peachesarenom · 01/02/2025 16:40

There are more people in the family than just than OP's sister.

Also, I believe funerals help people grieve, even if you haven't seen someone you love for 6 months as suggested by the OP in subsequent posts you can still feel their loss keenly.

Being together to remember someone and grieve together is important, it shouldn't be a time to say 'well I'm better than you because x, y,z '

Are they people whose opinions they give the slightest shit about though?

Not everyone finds the same value in funerals, or considers them helpful or necessary when managing grief. The same applies to ’being together’ with people you can’t stand.

InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 17:06

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:32

@TimPat yes I can explain it - Suck. It. Up. And. Attend. Your. Grandmother's. Funeral.

Lol. Yeah, the aunt tried that one.

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InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 17:04

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:41

@TimPat I thought they were adults? You go to pay respect to your Grandmother. Don't speak to people if your feelings are too hurty.

They paid their respects in life. I suspect they think going to her funeral, when it ostensibly isn’t even for her at this point, would be the disrespectful action. The aunt doesn’t want them there for their grandmother, she wants them there so she can assert herself and her children over them, and to project the image of the family that she wants to create.

They’ve said fuck that, and good for them. I’m not sure why people expect them to pander to dickheads, as if the onus shouldn’t be on said dickheads to not behave like that in the first place. ‘Keeping the peace’ is oftentimes hugely overrated, especially when what it really means ‘shut up and allow yourself to be trampled’.

Likewhatever · 01/02/2025 16:54

Floralnomad · 01/02/2025 16:20

If you believe that . Personally if somebody had racially abused my partner in the past I wouldn’t be going to breakfast at their home .

That’s what I mean about the update. It added a lot of context which made a difference to my initial view.

Lyn348 · 01/02/2025 16:48

I hate funerals, never went to any of my grandparents, wouldn't go to my parents if I felt I had a choice. DS hasn't been to any of his grandparents either as he didn't want to. I'm not going to have one myself and agree completely with your kids.

I'm happy for other people to have/go to funerals if they want to, but they shouldn't think that means I should be forced to go to them as well. Well done to your kids for standing up for themselves.

TimPat · 01/02/2025 16:47

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:41

@TimPat I thought they were adults? You go to pay respect to your Grandmother. Don't speak to people if your feelings are too hurty.

I don't think we're going to agree on this at all.
Going to a funeral doesn't undo treating the person badly when they were alive, and not going doesn't undo the respect these grandchildren showed her in life.
It's just a ceremony, the living relationship is what really matters.

heroinechic · 01/02/2025 16:44

@SALaw why is all of your disdain focussed on people who supported their grandmother during her life, to the extent that they were left more money than the others? Young people who attended a family meeting only to be abused, disregarded and treated with suspicion? Would you feel comfortable sharing your grief with people that are happy to treat you so appallingly?

Where is your disdain for OP's sister who is xenophobic? Or the other siblings who didn't make an effort to support their mother at the end of her life?

But oh yes let's tell the OP her kids are awful because they have the backbone to not put up with this shite. They are also grieving a relationship that they actually cared about. The sister is lucky that they just left, and didn't rip into her in the same way she was ripping into them.

ChateauMargaux · 01/02/2025 16:42

Believe him, give him a hug, find your own way to celebrate your mother's life with your children. All power to him for being able to stand up for himself and his girlfriend and for your DD for standing with him.

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:41

@TimPat I thought they were adults? You go to pay respect to your Grandmother. Don't speak to people if your feelings are too hurty.

peachesarenom · 01/02/2025 16:40

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 01/02/2025 16:30

Sounds like the sister is doing a good job of ruining familiar relationships and they'd be better off without it anyway...

There are more people in the family than just than OP's sister.

Also, I believe funerals help people grieve, even if you haven't seen someone you love for 6 months as suggested by the OP in subsequent posts you can still feel their loss keenly.

Being together to remember someone and grieve together is important, it shouldn't be a time to say 'well I'm better than you because x, y,z '

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:39

@Floralnomad exactly

TimPat · 01/02/2025 16:37

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:32

@TimPat yes I can explain it - Suck. It. Up. And. Attend. Your. Grandmother's. Funeral.

So they can feel unwelcome among people who treat her and them like shit just because it's the done thing. Weeping for show after her death from people who treated her badly in life is meaningless. OP's DC can comfort themselves by knowing they treated her well when it mattered, aunt can have her show to make herself look good for her own ego.

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:35

@Likewhatever if you believe it. All these things happening and the OP didn't know? And the children not explaining it immediately to the OP? And anyone making assumptions they could speak at the funeral and flouncing off when told no by the person the OP agreed was to organise the funeral? Not EVERYONE can make a speech. It would go on hours.

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 01/02/2025 16:34

I would refuse to get involved.

They are all adults and if they are having drama between themselves then I’d stay well clear.

Adults can do what they feel is right and no point getting pulled in every direction over it.

milveycrohn · 01/02/2025 16:34

I think it rather sad that they do not want to go to the funeral, but knowing that, I would also hate them to go unwillingly.
Funerals are ultimately for those left behind, to give their support to the OP, and other closer relatives, and to provide 'closure'.
Sure, if the funeral was for a second cousin, twice removed etc, but a grandparent is surely a close relative in this circumstance.
However, why did they go to the meeting?
It is also important to let relatives know asap if one is going or not, just for the catering requirements.

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